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Somebody Better Apologize To Sellers!

kansasCowboy said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
fromolwyoming said:
Considering he left for "personal reasons", I'd say it definitly is NOT any of your business. His teammates and coaches do not hold it against him, so why do you?
Correct. His reason is his business. His quitting the Wyoming Cowboys is our business. I could give two shits what his reason was, all I know is he walked away from an organization that I care deeply about, an organization that I help fund through taxes, and an organization that I further support by cowboy joe donations and game day revenue. I have the right to say I think it's odd that he chose the middle of his senior season to quit his team.

And opinions are fine. But the "F Sellers for leaving when he did!" Comments are not opinions. There is a difference. Comments like that are not opinions, that is just fans feeling Butthurt, because, "How dare you make a decision in your own life that will affect what I cheer for!" And in the grand scheme of things doesn't really fucking matter! Does it? I would always support a persons decision in life based on what they feel is best for them, even if it took them away from something I care about and cheer for. What fans seem to forget, and this seems obvious here, is fans only consider players as players, not people, with their own lives and own decisions to make. And if these commend are appropriate where are the "F Haldorson and Vernon for leaving and screwing our depth!" comments? They are not necessary. They are ridicule, not opinion. People need to leave Sellers alone! His decision is made, and he's doing what he thinks is best for he and his wife.

If Shy and his team aren't worried about it, why should you be. Besides he is no better, if not worse than Cooke overall. Seriously, had we had Sellers in the AFA game, what would his numbers have looked like? Probably something like 5 points; 4 rebounds; 0 steals, asst, blk, 3 TOs. Just guesstimating, but those are your typical Sellers numbers. Would that have made a lick a difference on Saturday? Not even close. Do you really think numbers like that will help us against the bigs of SDSU? We need to get Barnes in there. Let him bang around. If we are such a defensive minded team, put the guy in. He's apparently good at D and questionable on O. We are gonna need more D in this one.
I'm not saying "F you sellers" I'm just staying stop blowing smoke up my ass, he quit. Reasons rationale and motive mean nothing to us as fans because we haven't bren privy to that info. He's a quitter, that's the info weve been given. He wants to talk shit about the fans being keyboard warriors and saying nothing to his face, he needs to practice what he preaches. He hasn't said a word to the public. Would he have been a savior in the AF game? Hell no. Would he been an additional large body that we could have used to potentially developed at least some sort of inside presence, hell yes. We could have used him.
 
And yet, at the end of last year multiple people were HOPING that he quit, cause it would free up a Scholly for us to go after something better. Because he was a waste of a Scholly!
I would understand everyone being up in arms about Nance saying he was done or something of that nature, but when it was someone that most complained about when they saw him receive a Scholly from Shy at WWCC, then the same people plus some were hoping that he'd be the one to leave at the end of last season so we could free up a Scholly???
And now because it turns out it may be beneficial to how things "turn out"? I question saying that even, because you just agreed it wouldn't have made a difference.

All this shows is UW fans are extremely FICKLE. Trash the guy all of last year, hope and complain he would be the one to leave, and now its a "HUGE" deal. Get over it.
 
kansasCowboy said:
And yet, at the end of last year multiple people were HOPING that he quit, cause it would free up a Scholly for us to go after something better. Because he was a waste of a Scholly!
I would understand everyone being up in arms about Nance saying he was done or something of that nature, but when it was someone that most complained about when they saw him receive a Scholly from Shy at WWCC, then the same people plus some were hoping that he'd be the one to leave at the end of last season so we could free up a Scholly???
And now because it turns out it may be beneficial to how things "turn out"? I question saying that even, because you just agreed it wouldn't have made a difference.

All this shows is UW fans are extremely FICKLE. Trash the guy all of last year, hope and complain he would be the one to leave, and now its a "HUGE" deal. Get over it.
You just made our point. He should have quit when we could have used the scholarship. Instead he used Shyatt and the basketball team for another free year only to quit on them when it was convenient for him. No loyalty to team or coach. Yet they stuck by him.
 
And continue to stick by him, so obviously he had a legit decision to make.
But praise be to the fan who feels he should be in control of others decisions in life.
 
Wyolie Coyote said:
You just made our point. He should have quit when we could have used the scholarship. Instead he used Shyatt and the basketball team for another free year only to quit on them when it was convenient for him. No loyalty to team or coach. Yet they stuck by him.
Quitting last offseason wouldn't have made him any more loyal to coach or team.
 
joshvanklomp said:
Wyolie Coyote said:
You just made our point. He should have quit when we could have used the scholarship. Instead he used Shyatt and the basketball team for another free year only to quit on them when it was convenient for him. No loyalty to team or coach. Yet they stuck by him.
Quitting last offseason wouldn't have made him any more loyal to coach or team.
Would have freed up the scholarship and we would have had more depth as a result. Would have been doing us a favor to get a body in here that wanted to stick it out. Sellers is in the same category as Dionte Jones, quitters.

As for Kansas, Shyatt is a class act so of course he will not say anything against the kid. I wouldn't read too much into what is not being said by the staff.
 
Wyolie Coyote said:
joshvanklomp said:
Wyolie Coyote said:
You just made our point. He should have quit when we could have used the scholarship. Instead he used Shyatt and the basketball team for another free year only to quit on them when it was convenient for him. No loyalty to team or coach. Yet they stuck by him.
Quitting last offseason wouldn't have made him any more loyal to coach or team.
Would have freed up the scholarship and we would have had more depth as a result. Would have been doing us a favor to get a body in here that wanted to stick it out. Sellers is in the same category as Dionte Jones, quitters.

As for Kansas, Shyatt is a class act so of course he will not say anything against the kid. I wouldn't read too much into what is not being said by the staff.

And yet you don't hear anything being said by the players either. Just fans who feel "betrayed"
 
kansasCowboy said:
Wyolie Coyote said:
joshvanklomp said:
Wyolie Coyote said:
You just made our point. He should have quit when we could have used the scholarship. Instead he used Shyatt and the basketball team for another free year only to quit on them when it was convenient for him. No loyalty to team or coach. Yet they stuck by him.
Quitting last offseason wouldn't have made him any more loyal to coach or team.
Would have freed up the scholarship and we would have had more depth as a result. Would have been doing us a favor to get a body in here that wanted to stick it out. Sellers is in the same category as Dionte Jones, quitters.

As for Kansas, Shyatt is a class act so of course he will not say anything against the kid. I wouldn't read too much into what is not being said by the staff.

And yet you don't hear anything being said by the players either. Just fans who feel "betrayed"
And you are surprised by that? You don't think that Shy has set ground rules and created that atmosphere? Shyatt and his team aren't going to say sh!t even with a mouth full of it. That is why Shyatt is a class act.
 
You think because our coaching staff and players aren't bashing him means that he his move is sitting well with them?
BS.

Sellers just got a free semester of college, guaranteed to him. He quit the same day that Hankerson probably went to pay for his tuition out of pocket.

Who is contributing more to the team this semester?
 
BeaverPoke said:
You think because our coaching staff and players aren't bashing him means that he his move is sitting well with them?
BS.

Sellers just got a free semester of college, guaranteed to him. He quit the same day that Hankerson probably went to pay for his tuition out of pocket.

Who is contributing more to the team this semester?
I didn't think about that but it is quite possible Hankerson could have had that scholarship. Good point Beaver.
 
While I have been reading this site for a number of years, I have been way slow to comment until recently. In my few comments I have been critical if not hostile to a few posters. (sorry about that, kind of) Can't say that I feel that way on this thread - I can see reasons for both being way butt hurt about the situation, and for simply letting it go.

A couple of thoughts: Sellars' greatest value to this team may not have been during the games. Perhaps it was his job to introduce Herndon, Barnes and Williams to the physicality of the college game. I suppose it is possible that even his role there was diminishing. At any rate he'll be missed.

I suspect that his decision to leave was legit, otherwise I think some bit of bad words would have leaked from sources closer to the team. What I have read, other than from disgruntled fans, seems to be supportive of Matt. Until I see some info that he did not have legit reasons for quitting, I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Seems like maybe we should take a cue from Papa Shy, rather than spending all this negative energy. Not to go all new age (not a bad thing, come to think of it), but this team could use some positive vibes and good karma.

And a healthy outside shot.
 
Oh, and I think Hankerson lost his schollie due to the vile weed. Sellars' schollie simply would not have been avail to Jr. Who'd have thought that supporting the agriculture industry was such a big deal?
 
nwpoke said:
While I have been reading this site for a number of years, I have been way slow to comment until recently. In my few comments I have been critical if not hostile to a few posters. (sorry about that, kind of) Can't say that I feel that way on this thread - I can see reasons for both being way butt hurt about the situation, and for simply letting it go.

A couple of thoughts: Sellars' greatest value to this team may not have been during the games. Perhaps it was his job to introduce Herndon, Barnes and Williams to the physicality of the college game. I suppose it is possible that even his role there was diminishing. At any rate he'll be missed.

I suspect that his decision to leave was legit, otherwise I think some bit of bad words would have leaked from sources closer to the team. What I have read, other than from disgruntled fans, seems to be supportive of Matt. Until I see some info that he did not have legit reasons for quitting, I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Seems like maybe we should take a cue from Papa Shy, rather than spending all this negative energy. Not to go all new age (not a bad thing, come to think of it), but this team could use some positive vibes and good karma.

And a healthy outside shot.

The words that have leaked from sources close to the team is that he quit because he wasn't happy with the amount of playing time he was receiving. Didn't feel that it was worth the effort anymore. That's why people are mad.
 
although there was quite improvement from the last years to this year and I/we did see better things outta him, but in order to get the kinda playing time that he was seeking, let's see dramatic improvement overall and be a dependable team player, oooops that's gone
 
stymeman said:
although there was quite improvement from the last years to this year and I/we did see better things outta him, but in order to get the kinda playing time that he was seeking, let's see dramatic improvement overall and be a dependable team player, oooops that's gone

As a fan (which means nothing) I was honestly satisfied with his role this year. The last couple years, I wished we had that scholarship available for someone else, but I finally felt that Sellers was going to be able to provide serviceable minutes when we needed him. He wasn't going to be a star, but he wasn't going to be a complete liability anymore either. Then he quits. Damn.
 
[The words that have leaked from sources close to the team is that he quit because he wasn't happy with the amount of playing time he was receiving. Didn't feel that it was worth the effort anymore.]

I didn't know this - perhaps I missed it in this thread. Thanks.

Regardless, I can't blame fans for being frustrated when a player leaves a team.
 
Athletes need 12 credit hours to compete. Sellers needed much less than that to graduate. So I guess he said, screw taking classes I don't need, I'm getting outa here.
 
I don't have a lot to add to this asinine conversation but two things did make me chuckle:

1.) "If you don't like it, move on. Fans should and will express their opinions."
Logical ones will understand the humor in this.

2.) "Who is contributing more to the team this semester?" (Sellers or Hankerson)
I'll be honest, the past 5 or 6 games...Hankerson has hurt us more on the court than Sellers has hurt us being absent. Haha....seriously though.
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
I don't have a lot to add to this asinine conversation but two things did make me chuckle:

1.) "If you don't like it, move on. Fans should and will express their opinions."
Logical ones will understand the humor in this.

2.) "Who is contributing more to the team this semester?" (Sellers or Hankerson)
I'll be honest, the past 5 or 6 games...Hankerson has hurt us more on the court than Sellers has hurt us being absent. Haha....seriously though.

funny stuff here!!!

Adv8RU12 said:
Athletes need 12 credit hours to compete. Sellers needed much less than that to graduate. So I guess he said, screw taking classes I don't need, I'm getting outa here.

and working at Safeway, ooops sorry
 

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