Some Fresnecks already talking smack

[calpoke25]

It was Mark Twain who said, "There are three kinds of liars -- liars, damned liars, and statisticians." You my friend are cheating. I didn't say to selectively look through those 46 games over the past four years to pull out a couple of "for instances" that support you.

I asked that you give me these specific numbers:

# of WAC wins against the bottom 3 MWC schools
# of MWC wins against the bottom 3 WAC schools

I think you will find that perhaps more than half of the MWC wins came from beating up on our bottom three -- while not very many of our wins over the MWC came from doing the same to your bottom three.

The point isn't that we are better than you are. The point is that the head-to-head record that MWC fans often rub our noses in is a poor sampling that suggests a greater difference in the quality of the two conferences than actually exists.

Yoda out...

Well just for the heck of it I looked back through 2005 to measure this,

Over that time the WAC has 18 wins over the MWC, 12 of those came against bottom 3 competition
= 67% of their wins against bottom 3 MWC teams.

In that same time the MWC has 28 wins over the WAC, 20 of those came against bottom 3's = 71% of the MWC's wins have come against bottom 3 WAC teams.

Overall record in this time favors the MWC 28-18 (hope I didn't miss anything)

I have always thought this argument was kind of silly, in the long run I think the % of wins against bottom 3 competition would even out, as bottom 3 teams tend to lose more often....this should even out % of wins against bottom 3 teams.

That leaves us with overall record of 28-18, or about a 61% winning percentage for the MWC vs. WAC, which should be the best way to measure two conferences that play each other often enough to even out those kind of numbers, such as % of bottom 3 wins.

 

[Yoda]

Well just for the heck of it I looked back through 2005 to measure this,

Over that time the WAC has 18 wins over the MWC, 12 of those came against bottom 3 competition
= 67% of their wins against bottom 3 MWC teams.

In that same time the MWC has 28 wins over the WAC, 20 of those came against bottom 3's = 71% of the MWC's wins have come against bottom 3 WAC teams.

Overall record in this time favors the MWC 28-18 (hope I didn't miss anything)

I have always thought this argument was kind of silly, in the long run I think the % of wins against bottom 3 competition would even out, as bottom 3 teams tend to lose more often....this should even out % of wins against bottom 3 teams.

That leaves us with overall record of 28-18, or about a 61% winning percentage for the MWC vs. WAC, which should be the best way to measure two conferences that play each other often enough to even out those kind of numbers, such as % of bottom 3 wins.

I think that the percentage would even out but you've been playing considerably more games against our bottom three than we have against yours -- 28 vs. 20. As such, that high percentage of wins against the bottom three does tend to skew the overall record -- but not nearly as much as I expected. I didn't think that so many of our wins had come against your bottom three. As a result, I thought that, throwing out all wins against bottom three, we had more wins against you than you did against us.

But I was wrong. Dang it.

Yoda out...

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

But I was wrong. Dang it.

Guess you were right about one thing - you're not really here to troll. A troll never admits any flaws in their arguments.