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So, I'm calming down

Brew_Poke

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The more I read, I'm coming around to the majority's point of view that perhaps Bohl is the best hire we could've gotten. I like the rumors about what he negotiated for and we gave him. If that's true, then I'm hoping that Burman is taking the consultants' report's findings to heart. I really hope we are. The asinine WTE op-ed is the ultimate expression of what the report was calling out.
Anyways, as I've said multiple times, I wish coach Bohl the best of luck. Go 'Pokes!
 
The smartest thing the Casper Star Tribune and other papers could do is to issue an opinion saying how great an idea this is and how UW, the State of Wyoming, and our Athletics expect the best and deserve the best.

That said - nothing pisses me off much more than newspapers voicing their opinion.
 
WyoBrandX said:
The smartest thing the Casper Star Tribune and other papers could do is to issue an opinion saying how great an idea this is and how UW, the State of Wyoming, and our Athletics expect the best and deserve the best.

That said - nothing pisses me off much more than newspapers voicing their opinion.
Not a fan?-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best way to fight against what someone is using their natural rights to promote is to use your own to promote the opposite POV, not attack the right itself.
 
Wyovanian said:
WyoBrandX said:
The smartest thing the Casper Star Tribune and other papers could do is to issue an opinion saying how great an idea this is and how UW, the State of Wyoming, and our Athletics expect the best and deserve the best.

That said - nothing pisses me off much more than newspapers voicing their opinion.
Not a fan?-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best way to fight against what someone is using their natural rights to promote is to use your own to promote the opposite POV, not attack the right itself.

Of course I'm a fan of the constitution and the first amendment. What I'm not a fan of is newspapers showing biases and favoritism. In order to figure out what is factual and not, you usually have to read from 3 or 4 sources just because they let their opinions get in the way.

I trust very little of what I read anymore.
 
WyoBrandX said:
Wyovanian said:
WyoBrandX said:
The smartest thing the Casper Star Tribune and other papers could do is to issue an opinion saying how great an idea this is and how UW, the State of Wyoming, and our Athletics expect the best and deserve the best.

That said - nothing pisses me off much more than newspapers voicing their opinion.
Not a fan?-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best way to fight against what someone is using their natural rights to promote is to use your own to promote the opposite POV, not attack the right itself.

Of course I'm a fan of the constitution and the first amendment. What I'm not a fan of is newspapers showing biases and favoritism. In order to figure out what is factual and not, you usually have to read from 3 or 4 sources just because they let their opinions get in the way.

I trust very little of what I read anymore.
It's an opinion piece, not reportage.

There's a difference and its the readers' responsibility to know the difference.
 
WyoBrandX said:
Wyovanian said:
WyoBrandX said:
The smartest thing the Casper Star Tribune and other papers could do is to issue an opinion saying how great an idea this is and how UW, the State of Wyoming, and our Athletics expect the best and deserve the best.

That said - nothing pisses me off much more than newspapers voicing their opinion.
Not a fan?-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best way to fight against what someone is using their natural rights to promote is to use your own to promote the opposite POV, not attack the right itself.

Of course I'm a fan of the constitution and the first amendment. What I'm not a fan of is newspapers showing biases and favoritism. In order to figure out what is factual and not, you usually have to read from 3 or 4 sources just because they let their opinions get in the way.

I trust very little of what I read anymore.
Uh, that was a clearly labeled op-ed. It's everything the First Amendment is about.
 
It is one thing if general citizen writes a letter to the editor and it gets published in the paper. Its a completely different sitution when a newspaper starts taking sides and voicing opinions instead of sticking to reporting facts and remaining neutral.

Once a bias has been detected, no longer can any of the sources be trusted to tell the truth without some serious scrutiny.
 
WyoBrandX said:
It is one thing if general citizen writes a letter to the editor and it gets published in the paper. Its a completely different sitution when a newspaper starts taking sides and voicing opinions instead of sticking to reporting facts and remaining neutral.

Once a bias has been detected, no longer can any of the sources be trusted to tell the truth without some serious scrutiny.
No it's not, not when it's on the editorial/opinion page. That's what that page is for. Did you not ever have a civics class where this was taught?
 
WyoBrandX said:
It is one thing if general citizen writes a letter to the editor and it gets published in the paper. Its a completely different sitution when a newspaper starts taking sides and voicing opinions instead of sticking to reporting facts and remaining neutral.

Once a bias has been detected, no longer can any of the sources be trusted to tell the truth without some serious scrutiny.


ALL newspapers reflect the editorial slant of it's owner. It's been that way since the invention of the printing press. The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, for example, are polar opposites when it comes to their editorial views. Even how they package the news is influenced by how they view the world.

The same principal applies to electronic journalism. Fox News and CNN occupy different ends of the political spectrum.

People choose what newspapers they read and what TV news they watch based upon how much they agree with each outlet's view.

An it's exactly how the framers of the Constitution intended it to be. The free exchange of idea is what holds the fabric of our democracy together. I may not like what the Trib-Eagle opines about UW athletics but I defend their right to write it.
 
I should point out this is purely my opinion. Once 'the newspaper' starts acting like a person and having opinions about events that it will be reporting on, it sure looks like a conflict of interest to me. I can't tell you how many times I see that leak over into the main stories. Most of them do it. I don't read most of them. I watch the trib.com for sports news only. I catch some things on wyosports.net (boomerang/wte). After seeing what they really think of this transition, I doubt I'll be watching wyosports.net anymore. I don't care to be fed full of propaganda or have to look through all the little details of their articles going forward to see if they are stating facts or opinions.
 
Ah well. I'd say this thread just became pointless. Anyways, barely been out of bed in a week, so I need to get a nap in before the press conference later today.
 
WyoBrandX said:
It is one thing if general citizen writes a letter to the editor and it gets published in the paper. Its a completely different sitution when a newspaper starts taking sides and voicing opinions instead of sticking to reporting facts and remaining neutral.

Once a bias has been detected, no longer can any of the sources be trusted to tell the truth without some serious scrutiny.
There's never been such a thing in the history of journalism as an editorial-free newspaper.

Our natural rights come hand in hand with the responsibility of those exercising them to be duly informed and educated. This includes understanding how the media operates and the importance of the editorial voice as a check on power.
 
Wyovanian said:
WyoBrandX said:
It is one thing if general citizen writes a letter to the editor and it gets published in the paper. Its a completely different sitution when a newspaper starts taking sides and voicing opinions instead of sticking to reporting facts and remaining neutral.

Once a bias has been detected, no longer can any of the sources be trusted to tell the truth without some serious scrutiny.
There's never been such a thing in the history of journalism as an editorial-free newspaper.

Our natural rights come hand in hand with the responsibility of those exercising them to be duly informed and educated. This includes understanding how the media operates and the importance of the editorial voice as a check on power.
Obviously, I'm not communicating my points across clearly enough at this point in time. I'm not out here arguing how the constitution works. I'm not arguing how the media works. I'm voicing an opinion. I'm out.
 
WyoBrandX said:
Wyovanian said:
WyoBrandX said:
It is one thing if general citizen writes a letter to the editor and it gets published in the paper. Its a completely different sitution when a newspaper starts taking sides and voicing opinions instead of sticking to reporting facts and remaining neutral.

Once a bias has been detected, no longer can any of the sources be trusted to tell the truth without some serious scrutiny.
There's never been such a thing in the history of journalism as an editorial-free newspaper.

Our natural rights come hand in hand with the responsibility of those exercising them to be duly informed and educated. This includes understanding how the media operates and the importance of the editorial voice as a check on power.
Obviously, I'm not communicating my points across clearly enough at this point in time. I'm not out here arguing how the constitution works. I'm not arguing how the media works. I'm voicing an opinion. I'm out.
The media's voice is as vital to the Constitution as the Constitution is to the media.
 
The Virginian said:
Fox News and CNN occupy different ends of the political spectrum.

That's actually false. You mean Fox and MSNBC. After Fox and MSNBC started becoming so extreme, CNN tried to remain neutral, but it wasn't selling. They weren't making money, the others were, so CNN, instead of taking sides, takes "both sides" if you will. Tons of commentary, reduced NEWS, and talk shows that have opposing views (Cross-Fire).

But yes, to further your point, EVERY media outlet is owned by bigger conglomerates, and they ALL have a bias.

Hell, the Casper Star, when it was bought about 10 years ago by a bigger company, told them their newspaper is "too liberal" so they Casper Star has been more conservative in the last 10 years.
 
Burman actually surprised me with this one and didn't settle, and did what he thinks is going to be a home run with us Wyoming faithful...sure hope the results come fairly quickly!!! Welcome to Wyo Coach Bohl and Good Job Burman, for now...lol
 
stymeman said:
Burman actually surprised me with this one and didn't settle, and did what he thinks is going to be a home run with us Wyoming faithful...sure hope the results come fairly quickly!!! Welcome to Wyo Coach Bohl and Good Job Burman, for now...lol
Same here. Some of the names being thrown around were groan inducing. Thank God that Burman saw the writing on the wall and got the caliber of coach that we need around here!
 

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