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Shyatt Leaving

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WyoBrandX

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Did Shyatt resign or retire? I've heard both and I've read both.

I'm starting to wonder if there aren't some very deep rooted problems in the administration as a whole. I haven't dealt with anyone from the University in the last two years, but it used to seem like a pretty toxic atmosphere in general.

I certainly wonder why it took until last July to get him and his staff a contract extension - after they won won the first MWC tourney title ever. The last big championship was the regular season title in the early 2000's. If you include the AA remodel being in limbo - I could certainly understand how someone could be frustrated and not think the support was behind him.

Take a recent look at the reprimands from the conference. They almost seemed to try to single him out at times. The conference administration doesn't make the conference look nearly as respectable as the MWC should. Did they have an axe to grind with him?

My understanding of his hiring was he was interested in returning to Wyoming and building something. 5 years later, after a contract extension, he leaves. He is 64. I wouldn't think he would retire for at least two more years. Something doesn't seem right here.

If I'm reading too deep into this, well, at least things are better than I'm thinking they are. At the moment, I think there are some major problems at UW and the conference level.
 
WyoBrandX said:
Did Shyatt resign or retire? I've heard both and I've read both.
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"Step aside" was the terminology used in both Shyatt's statement and UW's release. I guess people are interpreting it differently.
 
Maddog told me point blank that Shyatt was exhausted and left on his own accord. He also said he thought Shyatt was going to do this last year after the NCAAs but stayed on. Nothing seems nefarious to me.
 
I think he left because he wanted to spend some quality time in retirement. I also think this was perfect timing from his perspective and here are the reasons why. 1. The athletics match is in place for a couple of years and doesn't need to be argued for from a new head coach that might not have all of the connections needed to get it passed. 2. We only have 1 recruit signed that thought he was going to play for Shyatt, if we had six kids signed I think it would have weighed heavy on Shyatt. 3. He had completed what he said he would and more. Championship team, 1st round draft pick and stabilizing academics in the program. 4. The five suspended players he would have had to kick off the team per his previous experience with Hankerson which would have set our program back a couple of years. With the new coach coming in they can deal with the problem and give all of the high 5 a first strike or clean slate approach. 5.If the program was set back a couple of years the entire staff had the possibility of getting canned and that includes his son. With Shyatt stepping aside it buys the new coach and staff at least 4 years of a stable job. :twocents:
 
MedievalPoke said:
Maddog told me point blank that Shyatt was exhausted and left on his own accord. He also said he thought Shyatt was going to do this last year after the NCAAs but stayed on. Nothing seems nefarious to me.
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That's pretty cool. Although, one has to wonder if the exhaustion was from beyond his coaching abilities - eg UW. I'd love to think that he was exhausted and it was time to go - but I think much of that exhaustion might have come from the administration and fan base.
 
What coach in their right mind would currently want to work at our University with the incompetent Board of Trustees, Tom Burman, and our CSU loving President?

I would find it to be a very difficult and hapless work environment. That doesn't inspire much success IMO.
 
Cornpoke said:
What coach in their right mind would currently want to work at our University with the incompetent Board of Trustees, Tom Burman, and our CSU loving President?

I would find it to be a very difficult and hapless work environment. That doesn't inspire much success IMO.
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I think you could say "who" at this point. I think its a toxic environment.
 
rich22 said:
I think he left because he wanted to spend some quality time in retirement. I also think this was perfect timing from his perspective and here are the reasons why. 1. The athletics match is in place for a couple of years and doesn't need to be argued for from a new head coach that might not have all of the connections needed to get it passed. 2. We only have 1 recruit signed that thought he was going to play for Shyatt, if we had six kids signed I think it would have weighed heavy on Shyatt. 3. He had completed what he said he would and more. Championship team, 1st round draft pick and stabilizing academics in the program. 4. The five suspended players he would have had to kick off the team per his previous experience with Hankerson which would have set our program back a couple of years. With the new coach coming in they can deal with the problem and give all of the high 5 a first strike or clean slate approach. 5.If the program was set back a couple of years the entire staff had the possibility of getting canned and that includes his son. With Shyatt stepping aside it buys the new coach and staff at least 4 years of a stable job. :twocents:
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I was thinking along your lines yesterday myself. One other thing as well. Even with all current personnel returning the Pokes are looking at 2 years (hopefully) to really compete in the top 4-5 teams in the MWC. I could easily see Shyatt not having the energy to take on that task with the high 5 toppled on top of it. It's really a perfect time to walk away. On top of that we hand it off to a young, hungry assistant that keeps the program intact. So we hire within and avoid further destabilization. It was one last well played and thought out move from a guy who had many. Thanks again Coach Shyatt! I'm excited for the future and missing him at the same time, that's about as good as it gets with a coach leaving I guess, other then going out on top.
 
My opinion is that just about all of these plans (Coach Shyatt leaving and Coach Edwards taking over) were made and approved (over about a three month period) almost a year ago.
 
WYCowboy said:
My opinion is that just about all of these plans (Coach Shyatt leaving and Coach Edwards taking over) were made and approved (over about a three month period) almost a year ago.
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Agree 100%. I don't want to say Shyatt mailed it in this year, but he wasn't his sharpest imo. He was done mentally and emotionally after last year, but thankfully he stayed on and saw the transition through to Edwards.
 
Cornpoke said:
What coach in their right mind would currently want to work at our University with the incompetent Board of Trustees, Tom Burman, and our CSU loving President?

I would find it to be a very difficult and hapless work environment. That doesn't inspire much success IMO.
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Whoa now, hold up, that's not the same old optimistic tone from our kicker!

You're starting to sound like me.

GOOD THING YOU AREN'T RECRUITING KIDS TO COME HERE!
 
LanderPoke said:
WYCowboy said:
My opinion is that just about all of these plans (Coach Shyatt leaving and Coach Edwards taking over) were made and approved (over about a three month period) almost a year ago.
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Agree 100%. I don't want to say Shyatt mailed it in this year, but he wasn't his sharpest imo. He was done mentally and emotionally after last year, but thankfully he stayed on and saw the transition through to Edwards.
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I think he stayed pretty sharp at the beginning of the season and then it started to slip toward the end. I think he described it well when he said it wasn't the losses that wore him down but it was not feeling that same excitement after a tough road win that took a toll on him. When you don't feel the excitement and satisfaction when you win then its time to step aside.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Cornpoke said:
What coach in their right mind would currently want to work at our University with the incompetent Board of Trustees, Tom Burman, and our CSU loving President?

I would find it to be a very difficult and hapless work environment. That doesn't inspire much success IMO.
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Whoa now, hold up, that's not the same old optimistic tone from our kicker!

You're starting to sound like me.

GOOD THING YOU AREN'T RECRUITING KIDS TO COME HERE!
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Unlike you I believe Wyoming can be a place where kids want to come and play. But that can't happen with the current administration. They are as short sited as you beaver.

Real vision takes real change and it has to start at the top. Our coaches cannot be hamstrung like this.

Unlike you I believe Wyoming can be competitive and be a school that is attractive to recruits who choose to come play here.
 
his comments of no coach can come in here and win etc.....I know it referred more to a team aspect, I still find it puzzling at best over that comment
 
Cornpoke said:
BeaverPoke said:
Cornpoke said:
What coach in their right mind would currently want to work at our University with the incompetent Board of Trustees, Tom Burman, and our CSU loving President?

I would find it to be a very difficult and hapless work environment. That doesn't inspire much success IMO.
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Whoa now, hold up, that's not the same old optimistic tone from our kicker!

You're starting to sound like me.

GOOD THING YOU AREN'T RECRUITING KIDS TO COME HERE!
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Unlike you I believe Wyoming can be a place where kids want to come and play. But that can't happen with the current administration. They are as short sited as you beaver.

Real vision takes real change and it has to start at the top. Our coaches cannot be hamstrung like this.

Unlike you I believe Wyoming can be competitive and be a school that is attractive to recruits who choose to come play here.
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You could not be further from the truth. Your feelings about the administration holding us back, and Wyoming being a place kids want to come, I feel the exact same way.

Believe it or not, but you share the same viewpoints on Wyoming athletics that I do.
 
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