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Should Craig Bohl be the highest paid coach in the MWC?

Cowboy Junky

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If you don't know, he's about to get paid. I haven't talked to my inside guys on this, but I'm 100 percent confident that he's going to get extended and get a raise, after the season finishes and the bowl/t.v. money is determined.

So, what is he worth? Should he be getting as much as Bobo, Deruyter, or Harsin? They all made/make around 1.5 million a year. Should he be paid more? Has he done enough to deserve the highest salary in the MWC?

His staff deserves a raise. Russell Dennison deserves a raise. Craig Bohl deserves a raise.

We've already made 1.0 million in bonus money with another .5 million almost guaranteed as long as we don't shit the bed before the UNM game. We're likely going to receive 1.5 in t.v. bonus money this year to distribute. In addition, if we make the MWC championship game, we'll likely get another 300 thousand dollars in bonus money. Our attendance has risen from a 2015 average of 18 K per game to a 2016 average of 22 k per game. That number could go up if the SDSU and Utah State games average more than 22 K. That's an additional 700,000 dollars on ticket revenue if each ticket is sold at 30 dollars a piece. That 700,000 pays every year as long as we maintain the attendance bump. Next year we host Oregon, so that looks easy for the foreseeable future. How much in additional consessions is the attendance bump worth, I don't know, but we're looking at 3/4 of a million more in revenue this year than last.

Now here is where it gets interesting. It's not out of the realm of possibility that we make the Cotton bowl game. A lot of things would have to fall into place, but our chances of getting there have to be almost as good as WKU, SDSU, or any of the AAC teams. If we win out, we'll be in the conversation. That bowl game would pay us somewhere around 8 million dollars. I only mention this because maybe it's a carrot to dangle to the staff. Make it to the Cotton Bowl game and the entire pay-out goes into your new 2.5 million a year contract.

Also, you have to look at this as an up front payment in case we have to replace Bohl. If he does leave, someone has to pay the full buy-out. If that's 2 million a year over 5 and we have three years left to pay, that means we have 6 million to invest in the new coach. If he stays here the whole time, then you hope he's worth the 2 million a year.

I'm just spit balling numbers and ideas here. I'm sure some of my estimates aren't exactly right, but they should be pretty damn close. I think Bohl and staff are worth the highest salary in the MWC, but I'm not sure how high. I think, the higher the better, because if he stays here, I'm pretty damn confident we're going to line up some title banners and paint the War with a bunch of new bowl games. If that costs 2.5 million a year, then so be it.

Personally, I think we should pay him as much as we possibly can, extend him as long as we possibly can, reward all of his staff with big raises to make them as comfortable as possible, and do everything in our power to keep his staff in tact and here as long as we can keep them.

What do you think Poke fans? How much should Craig Bohl and staff get paid?
 
"Our attendance has risen from a 2015 average of 18 K per game to a 2016 average of 22 k per game. That number could go up if the SDSU and Utah State games average more than 22 K."

I'd honestly wait until after the last few games to look at attendance. While performance on the field helps immensely, weather is always an X-factor.
 
Asmodeanreborn said:
"Our attendance has risen from a 2015 average of 18 K per game to a 2016 average of 22 k per game. That number could go up if the SDSU and Utah State games average more than 22 K."

I'd honestly wait until after the last few games to look at attendance. While performance on the field helps immensely, weather is always an X-factor.

Yeah, I have a hard time seeing us fall far below 22 K for the next two home games. It would have to be significantly lower to drop the attendance average much lower than 22 K.
 
Still a bit early for this conversation. If he gets us into the CCG, then we need to start looking at a total package of $2M+ and another $750k to spread around the staff to have a chance of keeping him for another three seasons...
 
Wyovanian said:
Still a bit early for this conversation. If he gets us into the CCG, then we need to start looking at a total package of $2M+ and another $750k to spread around the staff to have a chance of keeping him for another three seasons...

Yeah, it is, but it's the conversation that's going on right now in Burman's office, so we might as well get out in front of it. As long as Wyoming doesn't shit the bed this year, this is coming as soon as the t.v./bowl distribution is determined and the wrinkles get ironed out.

As long as he doesn't crash and burn to finish the season, I think we need to throw every available dollar we can scrape together at him.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
Wyovanian said:
Still a bit early for this conversation. If he gets us into the CCG, then we need to start looking at a total package of $2M+ and another $750k to spread around the staff to have a chance of keeping him for another three seasons...

Yeah, it is, but it's the conversation that's going on right now in Burman's office, so we might as well get out in front of it. As long as Wyoming doesn't shit the bed this year, this is coming as soon as the t.v./bowl distribution is determined and the wrinkles get ironed out.

As long as he doesn't crash and burn to finish the season, I think we need to throw every available dollar we can scrape together at him.
Cause when has that ever happened?
 
wyokoke said:
Cowboy Junky said:
Wyovanian said:
Still a bit early for this conversation. If he gets us into the CCG, then we need to start looking at a total package of $2M+ and another $750k to spread around the staff to have a chance of keeping him for another three seasons...

Yeah, it is, but it's the conversation that's going on right now in Burman's office, so we might as well get out in front of it. As long as Wyoming doesn't shit the bed this year, this is coming as soon as the t.v./bowl distribution is determined and the wrinkles get ironed out.

As long as he doesn't crash and burn to finish the season, I think we need to throw every available dollar we can scrape together at him.
Cause when has that ever happened?

Well, if he shits the bed, we don't really need to scrap together a big package to retain him, because no one will be coming after him.
 
I honestly think Bohl is more worried about us allocating funds for recruiting and paying his assistants more than himself getting paid more.. He is always talking about those 2 things.

Pay the man, Pay the man's men
 
gopokes1399 said:
I honestly think Bohl is more worried about us allocating funds for recruiting and paying his assistants more than himself getting paid more.. He is always talking about those 2 things.

Pay the man, Pay the man's men
I think you need to approach it as an empowerment/ administrative promotion. Just give him the budget and allow him financial autonomy with it...
 
Wyovanian said:
gopokes1399 said:
I honestly think Bohl is more worried about us allocating funds for recruiting and paying his assistants more than himself getting paid more.. He is always talking about those 2 things.

Pay the man, Pay the man's men
I think you need to approach it as an empowerment/ administrative promotion. Just give him the budget and allow him financial autonomy with it...

Exactly. However they want the money, it's coming after this season, as long as they don't melt down during the last 4-6 games. They're about to get paid.

However they want to spend it.....who fucking cares, as long as it provides the staff the comfort, security, and tools to succeed here.

The real question is: how much are they worth? To me, I think we need to throw the damn bank at him. We need to make them the highest paid football staff in the MWC, and make it difficult for anyone to come get him.

I think Bohl will leave for Nebraska. Aside from that job, I think we can provide him a package that will keep the rest of the wolves at bay.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
Wyovanian said:
gopokes1399 said:
I honestly think Bohl is more worried about us allocating funds for recruiting and paying his assistants more than himself getting paid more.. He is always talking about those 2 things.

Pay the man, Pay the man's men
I think you need to approach it as an empowerment/ administrative promotion. Just give him the budget and allow him financial autonomy with it...

Exactly. However they want the money, it's coming after this season, as long as they don't melt down during the last 4-6 games. They're about to get paid.

However they want to spend it.....who fucking cares, as long as it provides the staff the comfort, security, and tools to succeed here.

The real question is: how much are they worth? To me, I think we need to throw the damn bank at him. We need to make them the highest paid football staff in the MWC, and make it difficult for anyone to come get him.

I think Bohl will leave for Nebraska. Aside from that job, I think we can provide him a package that will keep the rest of the wolves at bay.

Not anytime soon with the way Mike Riley has "the Corn" playing. Still a lot of football to be played....
 
Cowboy Junky said:
Wyovanian said:
gopokes1399 said:
I honestly think Bohl is more worried about us allocating funds for recruiting and paying his assistants more than himself getting paid more.. He is always talking about those 2 things.

Pay the man, Pay the man's men
I think you need to approach it as an empowerment/ administrative promotion. Just give him the budget and allow him financial autonomy with it...

Exactly. However they want the money, it's coming after this season, as long as they don't melt down during the last 4-6 games. They're about to get paid.

However they want to spend it.....who fucking cares, as long as it provides the staff the comfort, security, and tools to succeed here.

The real question is: how much are they worth? To me, I think we need to throw the damn bank at him. We need to make them the highest paid football staff in the MWC, and make it difficult for anyone to come get him.

I think Bohl will leave for Nebraska. Aside from that job, I think we can provide him a package that will keep the rest of the wolves at bay.
I think $750k-$1M would be a good range. I'd go with $750k and an increase on that in one year. The deferral should be worth about $500k.
 
You pay Bohl whatever he wants, but at the end of the day I don't think he leaves unless he truly wants to. Chris Petersen made $2.5 mill annually at Boise. Rumor was BSU matched Washington's bid for Petersen... and it didn't matter. His heart was set on a new chapter.

I don't think Bohl leaves anytime soon. I'm just saying that if that ever comes to fruition, no amount of money will keep him in town. I think that threat is 3-4 years away though.
 
"Those who stay will be champions"

Bohl is a man of his word and I don't see him leaving until he delivers this. If he delivers it this year and moves on, can we be mad?
 
J-Rod said:
You pay Bohl whatever he wants, but at the end of the day I don't think he leaves unless he truly wants to. Chris Petersen made $2.5 mill annually at Boise. Rumor was BSU matched Washington's bid for Petersen... and it didn't matter. His heart was set on a new chapter.

I don't think Bohl leaves anytime soon. I'm just saying that if that ever comes to fruition, no amount of money will keep him in town. I think that threat is 3-4 years away though.

I agree with that, and I think he's worth Chris Petersen money. He stayed at NDSU for a very long time. He stayed there until it wasn't challenging anymore, and there was nothing left to accomplish.

He still has to fulfill his champions promise here. He still has to bring Gameday to town. He still has to make the access bowl. He has a lot to do. I think if we give him the resources to live comfortably, retain his staff, and compete nationally, he'll stay here until he gets those things done. He'll stay here until he's accomplished everything he can from Wyoming or he gets offered the Nebraska job, which ever comes first.

I really believe he's the best coach not in the P5 right now. He deserves to be paid like it. He deserves to have all the resources we can possibly give him to succeed.

He needs to be paid as much as the best MWC head coach makes. His staff needs to be paid as much as the best MWC staffs make. Russell Dennison needs a big fat raise.

It would be ideal if he just decides to retire from here, but I'm not getting my hopes up for that. The next best thing would be for him to stay for 6-8 years, driving our attendance up and building a pipeline of coaches for us to promote from within.

I just hope that CJC, Burman, and Wyoming athletics are aggressive with those dollars and don't hit him with an insulting offer that pisses him off. I hope that we can pay his staff enough to keep them from looking around as well. I hope that we can give him the necessary funds to recruit at the level of the best G5 schools.

How much that costs: I don't know. I just think we're better off assuming that it's going to be a lot, and not going half-assed like we did with Phase 2 of the AA.

Do it right. Pay the man what he needs, regardless of cost.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
Wyovanian said:
Still a bit early for this conversation. If he gets us into the CCG, then we need to start looking at a total package of $2M+ and another $750k to spread around the staff to have a chance of keeping him for another three seasons...

Yeah, it is, but it's the conversation that's going on right now in Burman's office, so we might as well get out in front of it. As long as Wyoming doesn't shit the bed this year, this is coming as soon as the t.v./bowl distribution is determined and the wrinkles get ironed out.

As long as he doesn't crash and burn to finish the season, I think we need to throw every available dollar we can scrape together at him.

If we win out - there is going to be a hell of alot of cash coming in. Some of that needs deflected to reward the coaches. If we have a respectable showing - getting 9+ wins, we should still look at spreading that wealth to the coaches as well. Some of that money needs to be put into the recruiting bucket too.

The more we win, the more money comes. The coaches are directly responsible for that. Also, pay the strength coach more!
 
We might want to relax and see what happens.

It wasn't that many weeks ago the board was discussing whether he should be allowed just one more year, or actually two.
 
Being in my mid 40's, I can understand why people are hesitant to Jump on Board with Bohl. We have had glimpses of hope in the past, just to be shit on in the end. But if you can not see that Bohl and his staff are different then I just don't think you understand. They didn't take short cuts just to "LOOK GOOD" while trying to get better recruits. They know what it takes to make a championship team and they have not wavered from that, even after a 2-10 season.

I've talked to several different players parents during the games and not ONE negative word has been spoken about any of them. I actually talked to a prized freshman's parents this weekend and they told me Bohl sent their son home for 3 days (during fall camp) because he was homesick. Not "toughen up", "don't be a pussy"...just "go home, see your family and come back hungry". That takes some confidence in yourself, staff and process.... Kid came back and is playing quite well.

Maybe some of you were "discussing" whether he should be gone after another year, but some of us on here understood the big picture. We were 2-10 last year, not because we didn't have players....because we were playing freshman. In one year, he took a squad full of freshman and sophomores from 2-10 to 6-2 (beating 13 in the nation). I do not believe for one second that this staff will leave holes in the recruiting to ever need to rebuild, they will just reload once this group becomes upper classmen, which will lead to contending for conference championships year in and year out.

So with that, my belief is....Wyoming, if we don't fuck this up by not paying him top salary, will be the next Boise St., BYU...etc of the MW. This is the man we need, and we need to do everything possible to retain him if we want to be relevant in college football for the next decade. He will take us, not just to the Las Vegas Bowl, but he will take us to a NY6 Bowl....
 
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