joshvanklomp said:I'm torn on what happened....
Did he get bad advice?
Or did he get good advice and ignore it?
Honestly, I have a feeling it might be the latter.
Cowboy Junky said:I don't buy that good decision crap. Anyone that wanted him to play a work horse roll or play right away(teams with a running back need) we're put off by the broken wrist. It's obvious he needed to get that fixed first. In a draft loaded with running backs, it was easy to pass on him and find someone else.
Hopefully he doesn't pull an Alvester Alexandre, and wash out of the league with a year of eligibility left.
Yeah, his family got paid: a little, not guaranteed. It's likely that money will be gone soon and Hills career may be as well.
He could have played his way into guaranteed money and entered the draft healthy in a year not loaded with NFL quality running backs. That way, if he washed out, his money is guaranteed.
This has the chance to be a historically stupid decision.
DVDA said:Cowboy Junky said:I don't buy that good decision crap. Anyone that wanted him to play a work horse roll or play right away(teams with a running back need) we're put off by the broken wrist. It's obvious he needed to get that fixed first. In a draft loaded with running backs, it was easy to pass on him and find someone else.
Hopefully he doesn't pull an Alvester Alexandre, and wash out of the league with a year of eligibility left.
Yeah, his family got paid: a little, not guaranteed. It's likely that money will be gone soon and Hills career may be as well.
He could have played his way into guaranteed money and entered the draft healthy in a year not loaded with NFL quality running backs. That way, if he washed out, his money is guaranteed.
This has the chance to be a historically stupid decision.
You state your opinions as if they're facts. You assume he "fell" because of a wrist injury that didn't stop him from finishing last season. You also assume this next class won't be loaded at running back when people say that every year. Every class has plenty of talented running backs and Hill would still be considered middle of the pack at best. He entered the league with a significant number of carries in college. 300 more carries would only hurt his stock. Being another year older would only hurt his stock and earning potential. Another minor injury like the wrist injury would only hurt his stock. A major injury would likely keep him out of the NFL entirely. Comparing him to Alvester is laughable. Alvester never had a shot at the NFL. He played the lottery hoping to win the jackpot for his family.
Brian will end up on a practice squad at worst. In that case, he is still making a lot more money than he would in Laramie and will learn a lot more about being successful in the NFL than he would in Laramie. He made the right decision and took the rational approach. You simply overvalue his NFL potential.
TSpoke said:I still don't think he made the wrong choice. It all depends on the situation he ends up in. He got drafted by a team that is already set at RB. That was unfortunate but he still has a pretty good shot at making the team. Another year of 300 touches for the cowboys was not going to make him much better if at all. He is the running back he is now and he would have just taken more of a beating.
RB's only have so many hits their body can take over the course of their career before they break down so another year as our workhorse could have hurt him in the long run. I don't think he would have gotten any better with another year of college. If he stayed its possible he would have been drafted higher but that is no guarantee of ending up in a better situation(to say nothing of possibility of injury) If he makes it in the NFL it comes down to situation, talent, and hard work.
DVDA said:Cowboy Junky said:This has the chance to be a historically stupid decision.
You state your opinions as if they're facts. You assume he "fell" because of a wrist injury that didn't stop him from finishing last season. You also assume this next class won't be loaded at running back when people say that every year. Every class has plenty of talented running backs and Hill would still be considered middle of the pack at best. He entered the league with a significant number of carries in college. 300 more carries would only hurt his stock. Being another year older would only hurt his stock and earning potential. Another minor injury like the wrist injury would only hurt his stock. A major injury would likely keep him out of the NFL entirely. Comparing him to Alvester is laughable. Alvester never had a shot at the NFL. He played the lottery hoping to win the jackpot for his family.
Brian will end up on a practice squad at worst. In that case, he is still making a lot more money than he would in Laramie and will learn a lot more about being successful in the NFL than he would in Laramie. He made the right decision and took the rational approach. You simply overvalue his NFL potential.
Cowboy Junky said:Sorry, I'm just not buying that.
I'm not an NFL draft expert, but I've got a pretty good eye for talent. Regardless, all the NFL experts agreed that this years running back class was loaded. That is a fact.
B. You guys act like a person in his early twenties doesn't get better. They do. They get bigger stronger and faster until they're about 30 and then their skills start to slip.
Exposure is what Brian Hill needed more than anything. Playing a senior year with Josh Allen, big national games against Iowa and Oregon, and the eyes of the NFL on Wyoming ALL YEAR would have exposed him to many more eyeballs. People scouting Josh would have got to see Brian.
Spin it how you want. Getting cut is not exactly what Brian Hill dreamed about and it certainly isn't something he wants to put on his resume. Brian Hills twitter page didn't read "NFL Practice Squad" all year last year. It read "NFL".
Another year of Bohl/company coaching would have helped him. It worked wonders for Gentry, Roullier, and Hollister.
With a healthy wrist, a great schedule, unprecedented national attention, a draft class not heavily stacked with running backs, and another year to improve his weaknesses: it's not only possible he could have got guaranteed money, but it's probable he would have.
Kiss his ass all you want. That was a stupid decision driven by money. He might have just sacrificed 50 million dollars for 300,000 right now. That's not smart.
You don't get many chances to make an NFL squad. It looks like he's about to fumble the first one out the back of the end zone.
The whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. He slipped in the draft, and then told people that his wrist was broken while throwing Craig Bohl under the bus in the process. His agent was more important than his team and his head coach. He had already checked out before the bowl game, and broke curfew to prove it.
Physical talent isn't the only thing NFL scouts look for. They look for good decision making and commitment to your team. The end of the season was one bad decision after another: forgoing your senior season with a broken wrist, a curfew violation, and publicly blaming Craig Bohl for your poor draft performance.
Answer me this, if he gets cut by Atlanta, was it a good decision to enter the draft hurt, with a year of eligibility left, and the entire nations eyes on Laramie this year?
Thoughts on the decision aside, I agree 100% with this. He was quick to forget how he got here. It was a bad look blaming Bohl and Co. for his "misfortunes".Cowboy Junky said:Sorry, I'm just not buying that.
I'm not an NFL draft expert, but I've got a pretty good eye for talent. Regardless, all the NFL experts agreed that this years running back class was loaded. That is a fact.
B. You guys act like a person in his early twenties doesn't get better. They do. They get bigger stronger and faster until they're about 30 and then their skills start to slip.
Exposure is what Brian Hill needed more than anything. Playing a senior year with Josh Allen, big national games against Iowa and Oregon, and the eyes of the NFL on Wyoming ALL YEAR would have exposed him to many more eyeballs. People scouting Josh would have got to see Brian.
Spin it how you want. Getting cut is not exactly what Brian Hill dreamed about and it certainly isn't something he wants to put on his resume. Brian Hills twitter page didn't read "NFL Practice Squad" all year last year. It read "NFL".
Another year of Bohl/company coaching would have helped him. It worked wonders for Gentry, Roullier, and Hollister.
With a healthy wrist, a great schedule, unprecedented national attention, a draft class not heavily stacked with running backs, and another year to improve his weaknesses: it's not only possible he could have got guaranteed money, but it's probable he would have.
Kiss his ass all you want. That was a stupid decision driven by money. He might have just sacrificed 50 million dollars for 300,000 right now. That's not smart.
You don't get many chances to make an NFL squad. It looks like he's about to fumble the first one out the back of the end zone.
The whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. He slipped in the draft, and then told people that his wrist was broken while throwing Craig Bohl under the bus in the process. His agent was more important than his team and his head coach. He had already checked out before the bowl game, and broke curfew to prove it.
Physical talent isn't the only thing NFL scouts look for. They look for good decision making and commitment to your team. The end of the season was one bad decision after another: forgoing your senior season with a broken wrist, a curfew violation, and publicly blaming Craig Bohl for your poor draft performance.
Answer me this, if he gets cut by Atlanta, was it a good decision to enter the draft hurt, with a year of eligibility left, and the entire nations eyes on Laramie this year?
HomeOnTheRange said:He made the right decision to leave. Bohl put some serious wear and tear on his tires and another year with a huge work load and an OL that lost its best player (by far)? Not a recipe for improving your draft stock.
The NFL already devalues running backs given how pass-happy the league is. With 250 more carries on his legs and the potential for injury and smaller holes to run through in Roullier's absence? Guy made the right choice all day every day.
wyopoke123 said:If he gets cut by ATL, by no means AT ALL is it a bad decision still. The jury would still be out and I guarantee he would be picked up ASAP by a team who could use him on the field this year.