fromolwyoming
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And not to mention his new team and coach are getting frustrated with him. Someone posted an article about it early on in the basketball season.ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
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Rashad Muhammad
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A couple thoughts:
Rashad Muhammad is getting way more hype than his game indicates he deserves because of his brother. He is a good, but not great, basketball player. Currently, his skill set is that of a high mid-major prospect. There is a reason the big boys haven't offered the kid.
Don't get me wrong, I think he would be a very good pick-up for UW. I just don't think we can count on him to be a immediate game changer like some of you seem to believe. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Rashad Muhammad is getting way more hype than his game indicates he deserves because of his brother. He is a good, but not great, basketball player. Currently, his skill set is that of a high mid-major prospect. There is a reason the big boys haven't offered the kid.
Don't get me wrong, I think he would be a very good pick-up for UW. I just don't think we can count on him to be a immediate game changer like some of you seem to believe. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
BeaverPoke
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I just hope we get him. We need someone who can score. And I don't wanna JC junior.
For all the people who want a JC Jr, we will have Nance, Cooke, Hankerson, Grabau, Bentz, and Sellers already that will be juniors next season. We don't need another. We don't need to be losing 7 seniors after they graduate...Unless we wanna mix it up between 3-4 freshman and Jucos the next season.
For all the people who want a JC Jr, we will have Nance, Cooke, Hankerson, Grabau, Bentz, and Sellers already that will be juniors next season. We don't need another. We don't need to be losing 7 seniors after they graduate...Unless we wanna mix it up between 3-4 freshman and Jucos the next season.
ProudWYOAlum
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Take a gander at his highlight tape: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9tXXKZeIbiI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Considering the production we had on offense this year, I'd say he would be a HUGE commit. He is exactly the type of athlete we need if we plan on beating SDSU, UNLV, UNM on a consistent basis.
Considering the production we had on offense this year, I'd say he would be a HUGE commit. He is exactly the type of athlete we need if we plan on beating SDSU, UNLV, UNM on a consistent basis.
NowherePoke
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TheRealUW said:
Generally agree with this, but I haven't really seen any extreme hype on here regarding him. On paper, this is definitely the type of recruit we should be pursuing. Offers from MWC/MVC (USU/Drake) type of schools, regional, maybe a little bit physically underdeveloped (only 170 lbs), but with decent length and offensive game.
I hope we land him, but I don't think it solves our fundamental issue for 13-14, and that is lack of offensive production from the perimeter. Hankerson should help, but we really need a perimeter shooter to spread the floor and like you say, it's hard to count on a freshman (either Trey Washington or a spring signee like potentially Muhammad) to fill that role. I was kind of hoping for a JC perimeter player to add instant punch, but if we can land a quality HS prospect in the spring that is ok too.
BeaverPoke
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NowherePoke said:
Remember though, signing a JUCO makes it so we have 7 kids in 1 class. And that throws off our whole balance. It is already gonna be outta whack as it is.
NowherePoke
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BeaverPoke said:
Bentz is not on scholarship, so it would be 6 on scholarship in one class. Having a large class is not a problem in and of itself. Do you think CSU is upset that they had a large graduating class this year? It worked out very well for them. I think our best hope is to build a core of players that can play together for a couple of years to build experience. I don't think we can recruit the talent level to compete at the top of the MWC with underclassmen. I was hoping that we could build towards a 14-15 season with high potential. Nance and Hankerson will be seniors and Adams will be a Jr. by then. That's a pretty decent core. If we were able to land an impact JC to add to that core I think it would put us in a solid position.
That's not to say that we should add a JC just to add a JC. Only go after the type of player that can really make an impact, and if we aren't successful then look for a D1 transfer that could be eligible by 14-15.
That was my thought. A quality HS prospect in the spring is not a bad thing either of course. Probably means more struggles next year, but maybe we are better off in 2-3 years that way.
BeaverPoke
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NowherePoke said:
I feel like losing 7 players at once though is too much. We are gonna have a HUGE drop off after that year. But if Shyatt is able to get 3-4 players per class, then it is reloading not rebuilding.
A good program will have a group of core players returning year after year.
Not just losing the core once every 4 years and spending the next 3 to get up to a good status again.
Having Adams, McManamen, and Haldorson is gonna be a good core. Having Trey Washington, Vernon, and Muhammad would be a good core.
Having Grabau, Nance, Cooke, and Hankerson next season and next will be a good core.
I don't wanna have all our hopes sitting on a team every 4 years then if we get upset in the MWC Tourney we don't make the big dance, or if we do make the dance with that team, and we pull a NM and get eliminated first round then we are done for 4 years.
BeaverPoke
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And is Jack Bentz gonna play all 4 years w/out being on scholarship?
I don't know if I would do that, I guess it depends on how much he likes it here and if he feels valued or what.
If he is gonna bail out, now would be the time, after 2 years with 2 left.
I hope he stays, it just seems weird to me. If Shyatt was gonna give the final scholly to him, he would have already done it I think. Is Shyatt gonna reward Bentz for staying all 4 years by giving him a scholly his final year? I doubt it because it would be the scholly freed up by Sobey leaving, meaning that is our only one to give.
Also, if we don't land Muhammad, do we hold it, then try and sign 2 the next year? Everyone keeps talking about how good Denver and the rest of Colorado's class is next season.
I don't know if I would do that, I guess it depends on how much he likes it here and if he feels valued or what.
If he is gonna bail out, now would be the time, after 2 years with 2 left.
I hope he stays, it just seems weird to me. If Shyatt was gonna give the final scholly to him, he would have already done it I think. Is Shyatt gonna reward Bentz for staying all 4 years by giving him a scholly his final year? I doubt it because it would be the scholly freed up by Sobey leaving, meaning that is our only one to give.
Also, if we don't land Muhammad, do we hold it, then try and sign 2 the next year? Everyone keeps talking about how good Denver and the rest of Colorado's class is next season.
NowherePoke
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BeaverPoke said:
Reloading is fine (and actually ideal), but you can't reload until you build it first. We were at the bottom of the MWC this year and frankly uncompetitive at times when many of the players you mention had to play without the help of Leonard Washington.
The scenario you describe is how a quality program should operate. I simply don't see us being able to achieve that.
fromolwyoming
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If the kid can contribute and is not a head case, I have no problem with him joining up.
NowherePoke
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BeaverPoke said:
In regards to Bentz, if he wants to stay at UW it will be as a walk-on. I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to elsewhere on scholarship. Not just for the scholarship, but also for playing time. Like you say though, there is no indication he will be awarded a scholly for next year and it would seem highly unlikely that he would be given the only class of 2014 scholarship available. I am sure he is well aware of the situation.
I appreciate any walk-ons contribution, but ultimately I haven't seen a walk-on at UW that has had a significant impact on the program. There have been a few around the MWC through the years though.
In terms of holding the scholarship, it wouldn't surprise me. Probably a good idea if you can't land the type of prospect you want to hold on to it rather than just signing a late placeholder (Shakir Smith, anyone?). It also gives you the opportunity to bring in a mid-year D1 transfer.
I would prefer to see us land some help for next year, because I don't think we have the pieces right now to move up in the MWC next year, but just signing someone that doesn't improve the roster isn't going to solve it either.
YankPoke
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Watching a few videos about him they are saying he will be inside the top 150 for the 2013 class, so it would be a very good pickup for us. He looks to be a very good shooter with good long range and a good mid range jump shot. He is currently hitting 50% from three this year and is scoring at a high clip so I think if we add him in next year we won't be as bad as some people think. Nance showed he can score consistently down low with his last 7 games or so when he was routinely scoring 17 plus, Cook should be a good role player and get lots of boards with his effort, much the same style of a Hornung. Hankerson will be the best player and he can shoot the ball very well from the perimeter, we have at least two point guards who can play in Riley and Josh and possibly three if Trey steps up. Vernon should be able to help at least some right away, and McManamen and Haldorson should add some strength and be decent contributers. Sobey can obviously shoot the three very well as he hit 42% this season so we have more offensive capability in this team than everyone seems to think.Also with Riley and Josh at the point we will actually run an offense instead of the crap when Gilmore had the ball so I think we will be a improved team next year. I would predict somewhere in the 7-9 range for conference wins and if everything goes perfect maybe ten, and probably a third straight 20 win season depending on the schedule strength.
ProudWYOAlum
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I think times have changed and freshman are just as capable of competing at a high level as a JUCO. I think this kid could contribute more than Sobey did.
Utah State has always been good at attracting talent and if they are on Muhammad we need to get him or play against him.
Hopefully he has a good visit this weekend!
Utah State has always been good at attracting talent and if they are on Muhammad we need to get him or play against him.
Hopefully he has a good visit this weekend!
It appears to me that most are missing the hidden fact that our experienced depth on this team is increasing. Lack of experienced depth was probably the one thing that hurt us more than anything this last season. I understand we don't have any MVP's, FOY's, or NOY's returning next year, but we might by the end of next season.
