jcintherock
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...effer needs to take himself out.
No Cowboy Pride there.
No Cowboy Pride there.
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I think all of our back ups on defense should start next game (besides Gary because he didn't play in this embarrassing game). No heart at all on that side of the ball, DC should fire English tomorow and take over the defense for the last game (I know he is an offensive minded guy but he can't do any worse than what Mary did the last few games). Yes I justed called him Mary :lol:
zappinpoke
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He's saving himself for the pro's man! :rofl:jcintherock said:
I think he's just worn out. Our defensive line is so small that the safety constantly has to be prepared to stop a running back getting down field and it hurts his ability to play against the pass.
That explanation is probably a 180 degrees off, but I'm trying to come up with any reason I can find to explain how C.Pro went from a solid safety last year to a suspect one in his senior season. Unless he's been injured all season, there's no reason to think he suddenly became less of a player from one year to the next.
That explanation is probably a 180 degrees off, but I'm trying to come up with any reason I can find to explain how C.Pro went from a solid safety last year to a suspect one in his senior season. Unless he's been injured all season, there's no reason to think he suddenly became less of a player from one year to the next.
Our D line is the same size as Airforce (maybe/probably even bigger) I don't think that is the reason why we can't get to the qb. I think it is our unwillingness to blitz more than 4 players. Our defensive play calling has been vanilla at best. We do have speed on our defense but we havent used it and our safeties are the worst at defending the play action ( you would figure the coaches could fix that but they haven't). We didn't get a ton of pressure last year on opposing qb's either. Fletcher was good, Unreing & Givens were solid but we still ranked near the bottom in the league in sacks.
fromolwyoming
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Our safeties bite on play action becuse they have to come up and help stop the run because Schober/Hendricks can't be on 2 ends of the field at the same time.marcuswyo said:
bladerunnr
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jcintherock said:
It's obvious you have something personal going on with this guy or his family. To single him out when the entire front 7 was pushed off the ball and/or out of position all night is about the most laugable post of the year. Take your vendetta elsewhere. Oh, we don't need to read about the famous athletes you associate with or have friends who know famous players. Were already very impressed.
The Virginian
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bladerunnr said:
THIS
pokerupfront
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When your top tackler is a safety..
Damn straight he's tired, never signed on to be a defensive end, or linebacker.
Again, when your top tackler is a safety.. you suck.
Damn straight he's tired, never signed on to be a defensive end, or linebacker.
Again, when your top tackler is a safety.. you suck.
JimmyDimes
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marcuswyo said:
Plain and simple, we don't have any experience or depth on the dline. Only one of our two/three deep played on the Dline last year with Purcell. We lost our top 5 Dlinement from last year. Plus, we have had some defection too (Orth). We had to convert two linebackers to play DE. And, while it seems they are getting better, they are still learning their positions and might be undersized.
We do have some guys in the wings who are hopefully getting bigger, stronger, and learing (the two JC guys fit in here). Depth is being built, but it isn't there this year and that is why we can't stop many teams.
JimmyDimes
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I think the move to the 4-3 was the only way to get our best players on the field. It sucks this year because we became a weak defense, but could pay off in the future. Even if we stayed with a 3-4, where were we going to get 6 guys to rotate along the three Dline spots?
I think the 4-3 will work better covering the pass which is something the 3-4 struggled with last year. You still have to get pressure on opposing qb's and we definately did not get that done, which causes your d to be horrible. Obviously losing Stover hurt our D line depth and we had to start Mertens in his place, but I like the idea of having fast linebackers. Point being, coaches did an awful job of fixing the line weakness and giving them help by refusing to blitz linebackers or safeties for much of the year. We could have also blitzed corners once in a while seeing as Marcel had 3 or four sacks last year?
kansasCowboy
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I honestly think we should try a 4-2-5 hybrid type D. Put in two more DB's for speed (for blitzing and coverage) The two LB's should be Hendricks and Shober (All they would have to do is plug the middle or stop the run's to the outside. Overall it would bring better pass coverage because we wouldn't have a slow LB on a WR and we could blitz from many different angles.
4-2-5 is what TCU runs, I believe.
fromolwyoming
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Just been thinking that myself. Schober and Hendricks are both pretty good LBs (granted, it falls off from there, but still), and our secondary is supposed to be pretty deep. Plus in the 4-2-5, the safeties play up anyways, so that they can either cover recievers or be blitzed to get into the back field. The only problem being the weakness on the D-line. About the only player who has been consistently doing well, is Knapton.kansasCowboy said:
kansasCowboy
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fromolwyoming said:
What you could do with that is go 3-3-5 and have Knapton and hendricks in the middle and put Schober at the Bandit spot as an LB/DE.
fromolwyoming
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Never really been partial to the 3 down linemen idea though. You almost always have to blitz a linebacker just so that the D-line isn't overwhelmed. With a 4 man rush (with a good/decent front at least), you can usually force the QB out of the pocket and open to some hits by LBs or DBs that are nearby (scheme depending). Plus, with so many teams using the spread or just throwing in the shotgun formation more and more, the 4-2-5 is about the best counter to it. And with he players we currently have, I wonder how much of a difference it could have made this year.kansasCowboy said:
