Pokes @ Zips Game Thread

[ragtimejoe1]

Here's a weird stat, Bohl, sans a couple years, averaged around 31-35% 3rd down conversion compared to 45% this game. Yet, Bohl still managed almost 16-18 first downs/game (19 in this one) with fewer plays. He also had about 3 red zone opportunities per game versus 2 in this one. Bohl ball was predicated on 1st and 2nd down success.

Getting to the red zone has been a struggle for a long time. The 2016 squad averaged 4 red zone trips per game.

 

[307bball]

Here's a weird stat, Bohl, sans a couple years, averaged around 31-35% 3rd down conversion compared to 45% this game. Yet, Bohl still managed almost 16-18 first downs/game (19 in this one) with fewer plays. He also had about 3 red zone opportunities per game versus 2 in this one. Bohl ball was predicated on 1st and 2nd down success.

Getting to the red zone has been a struggle for a long time. The 2016 squad averaged 4 red zone trips per game.

Is it possible that averages for Bohl ball hide something about those teams? What I mean by that is....there are kind of two versions of Bohl Ball...the good one and the bad one. Obviously, his first two years are the bad version but it cropped up again in 2018 and 2020. Now..it's not like the good version was knocking it out of the park or anything, but it was more efficient than the bad version right? What were Bohl teams 3rd down conversion averages in wins vs losses?

 

[Midwest Cowboy]

While I don't think any team is a "given" for Wyoming, I am happy that we opened against Akron followed by Northern Iowa. Although we have had some luck in the past, opening against top 25 teams and beginning the season 0-1 or 0-2 has to be emotionally tough. Wisconsin has made a tradition of playing the Blind Sisters of St. Penelope every single year and is both ranked and 2-0 before any real challenge. I really like the thought of not being a "losing" program until the 5th game of the year and getting a chance to ramp up. Alternatively, think about the mental aspect of not being a winning program until the 5th game if you go 0-2.

I thought our program looked good last night. How I found it on YouTube and watched live...still can't figure it out. But I think we win next week and I think we play Utah with some confidence.

 

[bladerunnr]

Kaden was 19/36 for 260 yards. Area for improvement? Sure. But there's been plenty of years where we would have had a parade for that kind of passing performance.

The Pokes are coming off a 3-9 season and just went on the road and beat another bad team. I'm not saying we're winning the conference - but we're acting like we eeked out a win over an FCS team at home.

Wyoming was unquestionably the best team on the field tonight, even if the score doesn't show it.

Very misleading stat line. How many of his completions were more than 5 yards past the line of scrimmage?
Frankly, if we have even mediocre qb play last night, we score at least 24 points. I was actually thinking we might have to burn Drube's red shirt is this continues. He had a clean pocket all night and he missed one receiver after another. With his limited running ability, that just isn't going to fly.

 

[LanderPoke]

Do we have a dedicated QB coach?

 

[jwy_poke]

Very misleading stat line. How many of his completions were more than 5 yards past the line of scrimmage?
Frankly, if we have even mediocre qb play last night, we score at least 24 points. I was actually thinking we might have to burn Drube's red shirt is this continues. He had a clean pocket all night and he missed one receiver after another. With his limited running ability, that just isn't going to fly.

Next man up would be Sims.

 

[TheRealUW]

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Very misleading stat line. How many of his completions were more than 5 yards past the line of scrimmage?
Frankly, if we have even mediocre qb play last night, we score at least 24 points. I was actually thinking we might have to burn Drube's red shirt is this continues. He had a clean pocket all night and he missed one receiver after another. With his limited running ability, that just isn't going to fly.

I went back and watched the game again because some posters seem to think he had a decent game. I came away feeling even more pessimistic than I did when I watched the game live. He missed a lot of throws. He also looked super uncomfortable in the pocket.

I found myself almost wanting him to take a hit so he could get it over with and just play football. I obviously don’t want him to get hurt, but you can’t be a successful quarterback if you are constantly scared to take a hit.

I’m hoping he is much better against UNI.

 

[PorkerPoke]

He had a clean pocket all night and he missed one receiver after another. With his limited running ability, that just isn't going to fly.

He missed a lot of throws. He also looked super uncomfortable in the pocket.

From the stands as I didn’t have the TV perspective:

It seemed like he was often forced to move up in the pocket or feeling pressured - mainly from the left side of the o-line. In most of those situations he either couldn’t make the pass until too late due to pressure or the receivers didn’t run routes to create separation or didn’t have the ability to evade coverage. That was what it seemed like in the first half.

In the second half he did make a few more completions but didn’t always make the throw in the best place to be caught.

He did take off running a couple of times but after 2 ACL’s in high school he needs more protection and less need to run.

I am pessimistic as well overall. I do believe we have some playmakers on both offense and defense but we don’t have a lot of depth or that special franchise type player.

We did pop the Akron Zits on their home field which is a constant event for them. They came ready to play and didn’t fold despite us being dominant.

One more game at home to get the kinks ironed out before hosting a big game that will indicate if we can play competitively against a power foe or if we are a weak and pathetic .500 or less G program.

 

[laxwyo]

From the stands as I didn’t have the TV perspective:

It seemed like he was often forced to move up in the pocket or feeling pressured - mainly from the left side of the o-line. In most of those situations he either couldn’t make the pass until too late due to pressure or the receivers didn’t run routes to create separation or didn’t have the ability to evade coverage. That was what it seemed like in the first half.

In the second half he did make a few more completions but didn’t always make the throw in the best place to be caught.

He did take off running a couple of times but after 2 ACL’s in high school he needs more protection and less need to run.

I am pessimistic as well overall. I do believe we have some playmakers on both offense and defense but we don’t have a lot of depth or that special franchise type player.

We did pop the Akron Zits on their home field which is a constant event for them. They came ready to play and didn’t fold despite us being dominant.

One more game at home to get the kinks ironed out before hosting a big game that will indicate if we can play competitively against a power foe or if we are a weak and pathetic .500 or less G program.

To me, his throws on the move weren't that great. There was something about his arm when (almost like he short armed them) he was on the move. I recall a couple really bad ones, especially to JG. He underthrew a few deep balls that would have went for TDs, but not by much. The receiver still caught them which is better than the last few years when they'd be overthrown by quite a bit.

 

[laxwyo]

Very misleading stat line. How many of his completions were more than 5 yards past the line of scrimmage?
Frankly, if we have even mediocre qb play last night, we score at least 24 points. I was actually thinking we might have to burn Drube's red shirt is this continues. He had a clean pocket all night and he missed one receiver after another. With his limited running ability, that just isn't going to fly.

Throwing completed balls to your playmakers and letting them do the rest is literally what most of the good teams do. That's what Texas did to us 2 years ago. While 52% isn't great, we didn't have a 52% completion game until the 4th game last year and that was 53.6%. The playmakers can't do anything without it getting to them? Are we really going to be upset about 260 yds because a lot of it was YAC? I don't care if we only complete a few long passes a game. We need the ball in our playmakers hands which doesn't involve jet sweeps and reverses.

 

[rich22]

I wondered if the rain/ wet ball had something to do with QB1's throwing motion. He seemed to loft the ball and not really sling it. I dont remember that last year. I was going to go back and watch last year's games to see if his motion was the same.

 

[rich22]

Also, his footwork looked terrible. Even coach Sawvel said something along those lines after the game.

He will get it cleaned up. Better to learn from a W than a L.