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ragtimejoe1

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First, what a disaster. I can't believe they put ou vs bama in round 1; they just played a month ago. James Madison and Tulane above Notre Dame? I know they had to take 1 but 2? I'm thinking they are building the case for excluding g6. With that, we've already seen the tulane vs ole miss matchup in Sept--it was ugly.

Snubbing Notre Dame and 2 g6 bloodbaths? I'm worried there are some ulterior motives going on.
 
Snubbing Notre Dame and 2 g6 bloodbaths? I'm worried there are some ulterior motives going on.
Huh? The motive of following their own current rules and not getting sued for a bunch of money seems the most likely. The current rules provide for 5 autobids to the 5 highest ranked conference champions and 7 at large bids. No way that a 5 loss Duke should be in over Tulane or JMU.

The only real discussion was whether Alabama, Miami or Notre Dame should get the final 2 spots. Miami beat Notre Dame head to head so they are in. Alabama’s schedule was 10x more difficult than Notre Dame’s so that is why they were presumably ranked higher by the committee.
 
While I don't expect either of the g6 games to be competitive, I think its great that 2 got in by virtue of being "ranked higher" than Duke out of the ACC.
 
I understand the Duke issue and the committee had to with the way they ranked previously.

Still, when the g6 gets waxed and notre dame being left out is going to do 2 things. 1 increase pressure on notre dame to join a conference and 2 leave g6 out of automatic process.
 
I understand the Duke issue and the committee had to with the way they ranked previously.

Still, when the g6 gets waxed and notre dame being left out is going to do 2 things. 1 increase pressure on notre dame to join a conference and 2 leave g6 out of automatic process.
There was already a lot of pressure to do this. This year’s result doesn’t change what is already guaranteed to happen. Big 10 was demanding like 8 automatic slots (out of 16) to be split between Big 10 and SEC for future years’ playoff. It is inevitable and will be part of an eventual split and part of Notre Dame joining the Big 10 in football.

 
Notre Dame has an MOU in place that would put them in if they're Top 12.

The playoff is a joke if things like this can exist.


FBS Football is an absolute disaster. FCS at least makes sense.
 
Notre Dame now basically telling the ACC f*** you and is presumably setting the stage for a legal battle to leave without having to pay buyout/reduced buyout. From a legal perspective, Notre Dame is saying that conference is undermining its partner University and that should be grounds for termination of the conference relationship without liquidated damages (i.e. the conference acted in bad faith thereby giving Notre Dame an excuse to escape the contract free of liability).

 
Notre Dame has an MOU in place that would put them in if they're Top 12.

The playoff is a joke if things like this can exist.


FBS Football is an absolute disaster. FCS at least makes sense.
To me, this is a total nothingburger that just shows that the people in charge at Notre Dame are clueless. If the committee wants Notre Dame out, they will just rank them #13 and call it a day.
 
O.K. I get why Notre Dame got pissed and said "We're not playing in a bowl!!!! It's the Playoffs or bust!!!!"

I get why Kansas State said, "no thanks" to any bowl invite mainly because their coach is retiring and etc...

But0,.....I still don't get why Iowa State said no thanks as well. They went 8-4 and yes, they lost their coach to Penn State but still,...those players deserved to go somewhere nice and play one more game as a reward.

Both K-State and Iowa State got fined $500,000 each by the Big 12 for not accepting any bowl invites.

And before ANY of you say it....I do know all three teams had their players vote to accept an invite or not.
 
I read that Notre Dame told ESPN to piss off and that they weren't going to allow ESPN to use their brand to get ratings in a non-CFP bowl (since it'd probs be the highest rated non-CFP bowl and likely higher rated than some of the CFP games). I think that's hilarious because ESPN is the reason this is all fucked up in the first place.
 
Between the draft, transfer, and nil, the stakes are getting too high for a meaningless end of the year game. I have a different opinion, but I think that is how most players look at it now. Bowl system is going to die a lot quicker now.
 
The problem is they keep trying to create metrics that favor the power conferences, and when it doesn’t work like it was supposed to, they move the goalposts. The system was set up to be fool proof, they never thought that one of the power 4 conferences would have a lower ranked champion than the G6, so that’s their own fault. Notre Dame can cry all they want but if they were in the ACC, they’d have been in. More than likely that is. They want their cake and eat it too, holding their own media deal and staying independent. Why do 134 other teams and 10 conferences need to crater to that? They don’t. This will create some dominos though. It’s phase one of the power 2 split. Now how many get invited to that party is hard to tell. It al depends on how much those 2 leagues want to share with the rest of the teams and conferences. As much as they already hoard the money, they already sort of share the money with G6 teams and FCS by scheduling money games for us. Rather than doing that, the NCAA could just go to the market as one and fund college football. But that would mean the SEC and BIG10 would have to take a cut in their billion dollar media deals. Personally, at this point, let the 60-70 teams split, form a D League NFL, and let the rest of us get on with college football. Or flat out expand the playoffs to 24 teams, all 10 conference champs get in with 14 at large bids. Dump the bowls.
 
The problem is they keep trying to create metrics that favor the power conferences, and when it doesn’t work like it was supposed to, they move the goalposts. The system was set up to be fool proof, they never thought that one of the power 4 conferences would have a lower ranked champion than the G6, so that’s their own fault. Notre Dame can cry all they want but if they were in the ACC, they’d have been in. More than likely that is. They want their cake and eat it too, holding their own media deal and staying independent. Why do 134 other teams and 10 conferences need to crater to that? They don’t. This will create some dominos though. It’s phase one of the power 2 split. Now how many get invited to that party is hard to tell. It al depends on how much those 2 leagues want to share with the rest of the teams and conferences. As much as they already hoard the money, they already sort of share the money with G6 teams and FCS by scheduling money games for us. Rather than doing that, the NCAA could just go to the market as one and fund college football. But that would mean the SEC and BIG10 would have to take a cut in their billion dollar media deals. Personally, at this point, let the 60-70 teams split, form a D League NFL, and let the rest of us get on with college football. Or flat out expand the playoffs to 24 teams, all 10 conference champs get in with 14 at large bids. Dump the bowls.
I hope they don’t expand to 24 teams. I’m hoping the top 70-80 teams just break away. I’m ready for a more level playing field.
 
I hope they don’t expand to 24 teams. I’m hoping the top 70-80 teams just break away. I’m ready for a more level playing field.

I think it is inevitable, but I worry about the finances. My sneaking suspicion is that we (everyone left out) regress much closer to fcs-level revenue. After much study on the audience thing, I think the non-market fans are most critical. Who will non-market fans tune into? It isn't as much the local tv market as it is national appeal. Currently, g6 is vying for a playoff spot which creates national appeal. Once that is gone, I don't think any of us rejects will command much of an advertising appeal. Nobody is going to give a shit about bsu if they aren't trying to be "bcs buster" of old and whipping a big dog on a big stage.

I think when the split does happen, it's going to be a lot worse for the rejects than we are anticipating.
 

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