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OT: Rockies Trade Tulo

ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
seattlecowboy said:
I'm a huge baseball fan and watch about 3 or 4 games a night.

I'm an Angels fan though . Not a Rockies fan but this isn't a bad trade Reyes is a good player most of the time but he does sometimes get stupid errors he has no business getting.

Good pick up for the Jays for sure. They are already baseballs best offense. This will be a step up for them on the fielding side of the ball. They have a shot at the wild card and outside shot at their division although it looks like the Yankees are starting to pull away as they have been hot.

That Cubs /Rockies game tonight was one of the best I have watched this year.
While bittersweet I think this trade will bear out as a good one for all involved. Tulo has a shot at immediate meaningful baseball while the Rockies get young, talented, (hopefully multiple) highly touted arms to build for the future. And they get a huge long term salary off the books.

Do you have any confidence that the Rockies can develop these arms? I sure as hell don't.
 
303cowboy said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
seattlecowboy said:
I'm a huge baseball fan and watch about 3 or 4 games a night.

I'm an Angels fan though . Not a Rockies fan but this isn't a bad trade Reyes is a good player most of the time but he does sometimes get stupid errors he has no business getting.

Good pick up for the Jays for sure. They are already baseballs best offense. This will be a step up for them on the fielding side of the ball. They have a shot at the wild card and outside shot at their division although it looks like the Yankees are starting to pull away as they have been hot.

That Cubs /Rockies game tonight was one of the best I have watched this year.
While bittersweet I think this trade will bear out as a good one for all involved. Tulo has a shot at immediate meaningful baseball while the Rockies get young, talented, (hopefully multiple) highly touted arms to build for the future. And they get a huge long term salary off the books.

Do you have any confidence that the Rockies can develop these arms? I sure as hell don't.

I can sure hope!
 
This makes me as sad as when the Rockies traded Larry Walker to St Louis.. just horrible. The Rockies incompetence lead to Tulo's departure. I'm particularly sad I never got to see him play in person, by far my favorite player. Tulo is one of about two players (Helton the other) the Rockies have ever had success from the farm system.. everyone else flamed out or was moved before they could make a large impact. The Rocks can get all the arms they want, but they can't develop them. Just look what happened in the two pitchers they got in the Ubaldo trade. Definitely hate baseball today.
 
I think their infield will be fine long term. Trevor story as the short term SS, then move him to 2b when Brendan Rodgers is ready. Just hope we win the lotto and some of these prospect pitchers pan out. I for one, won't be holding my breath.
 
Ugh. Poorest ran baseball organization, maybe ever.

I get trading Tulo though - he is a China Doll. May as well get it done while he still has value. Bad news for him as well - he will have to find a place to sleep in that drab dreary city of Toronto - yuck.

Cargo is next on the block IMO.
 
McPeachy said:
Ugh. Poorest ran baseball organization, maybe ever.

I get trading Tulo though - he is a China Doll. May as well get it done while he still has value. Bad news for him as well - he will have to find a place to sleep in that drab dreary city of Toronto - yuck.

Cargo is next on the block IMO.

Trade Tulo, flip Reyes, trade Cargo and all the sudden Colorado has one of the lowest payrolls in the mlb meaning the Monforts pocket more money. I hope I eat these words after the Rockies sign some high quality free agents this off season but I highly doubt it.
 
303cowboy said:
McPeachy said:
Ugh. Poorest ran baseball organization, maybe ever.

I get trading Tulo though - he is a China Doll. May as well get it done while he still has value. Bad news for him as well - he will have to find a place to sleep in that drab dreary city of Toronto - yuck.

Cargo is next on the block IMO.

Trade Tulo, flip Reyes, trade Cargo and all the sudden Colorado has one of the lowest payrolls in the mlb meaning the Monforts pocket more money. I hope I eat these words after the Rockies sign some high quality free agents this off season but I highly doubt it.

Like Kyle Kendrick or Jeremy Guthrie?
 
MrTitleist said:
303cowboy said:
McPeachy said:
Ugh. Poorest ran baseball organization, maybe ever.

I get trading Tulo though - he is a China Doll. May as well get it done while he still has value. Bad news for him as well - he will have to find a place to sleep in that drab dreary city of Toronto - yuck.

Cargo is next on the block IMO.

Trade Tulo, flip Reyes, trade Cargo and all the sudden Colorado has one of the lowest payrolls in the mlb meaning the Monforts pocket more money. I hope I eat these words after the Rockies sign some high quality free agents this off season but I highly doubt it.

Like Kyle Kendrick or Jeremy Guthrie?

Haha, I said high quality. I was hoping for someone like David Price who will be a free agent but I know better than that.
 
I'm pretty sure they are going to flip Reyes. They will save a lot of money. Still not a bad deal as they could have kept everything as it was and finish close to last place and still be paying out the high contracts. I would expect them to look to sign some good young talent with the extra money if they do indeed flip Reyes.

We will see.
 
seattlecowboy said:
I'm pretty sure they are going to flip Reyes. They will save a lot of money. Still not a bad deal as they could have kept everything as it was and finish close to last place and still be paying out the high contracts. I would expect them to look to sign some good young talent with the extra money if they do indeed flip Reyes.

We will see.

I believe they will try to flip Reyes as well. If not before the trade line then definitely this winter. Maybe package him with DJ or Blackmon. I just have a hard time seeing them signing any big time free agents. They have 2 things working against them in terms of free agent pitchers: No one wants to pitch at Coors even for more money, and cheap owners.
 
I'd be shocked if Reyes finishes the week a Rockie. He's an aging star who's been injured more than Tulo. And he's blocking the path for 2-3 really good looking up and coming short stops. He'll be gone by Friday.

It has been announced that Cargo has been officially put on the trade block and is being shopped. He'll be gone soon too which sucks but his trade value is as high as its maybe ever been this week, we can hopefully get another group of young studs. Only time will tell.
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
I'd be shocked if Reyes finishes the week a Rockie. He's an aging star who's been injured more than Tulo. And he's blocking the path for 2-3 really good looking up and coming short stops. He'll be gone by Friday.

And he makes a lot of money. Thats what scares me. Who will want to trade for him?
 
303cowboy said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
I'd be shocked if Reyes finishes the week a Rockie. He's an aging star who's been injured more than Tulo. And he's blocking the path for 2-3 really good looking up and coming short stops. He'll be gone by Friday.

And he makes a lot of money. Thats what scares me. Who will want to trade for him?
Mets and Yankees are both in need of a quality Short Stop who have the financial flexibility and young prospects to make it worth our while. Especially if it was a package deal with Cargo (which is a ton of money, but the Yanks love to spend money!)
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
303cowboy said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
I'd be shocked if Reyes finishes the week a Rockie. He's an aging star who's been injured more than Tulo. And he's blocking the path for 2-3 really good looking up and coming short stops. He'll be gone by Friday.

And he makes a lot of money. Thats what scares me. Who will want to trade for him?
Mets and Yankees are both in need of a quality Short Stop who have the financial flexibility and young prospects to make it worth our while. Especially if it was a package deal with Cargo (which is a ton of money, but the Yanks love to spend money!)

Well here's hoping you're right.

At this point blow it up and start from scratch trade anyone with value. Worked for the astros
 
Free agency has been killing the game for years. And it will continue to get worse, before it gets any better. I blame Boston and all those bandwagon fans that crawled out from under a rock in 2004. Scum!

Back on topic: Just how big can the salary cap get? MLB needs to take a page out of the NHL book. That and chop the season by about 60 games and eliminate April and October.

When was the last time any of you got to see your favorite player start & finish his career with your favorite team? Unless you are a Yankees fan, probably never.
 
McPeachy said:
Free agency has been killing the game for years. And it will continue to get worse, before it gets any better. I blame Boston and all those bandwagon fans that crawled out from under a rock in 2004. Scum!

Back on topic: Just how big can the salary cap get? MLB needs to take a page out of the NHL book. That and chop the season by about 60 games and eliminate April and October.

When was the last time any of you got to see your favorite player start & finish his career with your favorite team? Unless you are a Yankees fan, probably never.
Todd Helton son!!!!
 
McPeachy said:
Free agency has been killing the game for years. And it will continue to get worse, before it gets any better. I blame Boston and all those bandwagon fans that crawled out from under a rock in 2004. Scum!

Back on topic: Just how big can the salary cap get? MLB needs to take a page out of the NHL book. That and chop the season by about 60 games and eliminate April and October.

When was the last time any of you got to see your favorite player start & finish his career with your favorite team? Unless you are a Yankees fan, probably never.
That's a good point. Even the flawless St. Louis Cardinals organization and their fans watched Pujols walk off. The Angels might see Trout one day return to Philly, who knows.
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
McPeachy said:
Free agency has been killing the game for years. And it will continue to get worse, before it gets any better. I blame Boston and all those bandwagon fans that crawled out from under a rock in 2004. Scum!

Back on topic: Just how big can the salary cap get? MLB needs to take a page out of the NHL book. That and chop the season by about 60 games and eliminate April and October.

When was the last time any of you got to see your favorite player start & finish his career with your favorite team? Unless you are a Yankees fan, probably never.
Todd Helton son!!!!

Good call - I forgot about Helton. Wonder why nobody ever came calling, or if they did, he declined?
 
McPeachy said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
McPeachy said:
Free agency has been killing the game for years. And it will continue to get worse, before it gets any better. I blame Boston and all those bandwagon fans that crawled out from under a rock in 2004. Scum!

Back on topic: Just how big can the salary cap get? MLB needs to take a page out of the NHL book. That and chop the season by about 60 games and eliminate April and October.

When was the last time any of you got to see your favorite player start & finish his career with your favorite team? Unless you are a Yankees fan, probably never.
Todd Helton son!!!!

Good call - I forgot about Helton. Wonder why nobody ever came calling, or if they did, he declined?

Helton to Boston was almost a done deal.

http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_6117403
 
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