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OC.....

BigHorn said:
I appreciate honest discussion, and I respect your thoughts on the issues with the offense.

I don't know what happened with Anderson, as the season went on, he appeared to become more tentative. One of the things that he did that drove me crazy was some of the HUGE losses he took on sacks. He ran backwards a number of times instead of getting rid of the ball.....unbelievable. Durr was the only guy that could get separation and unfortunately, he was a really poor blocking WR and as the season went on, he appeared to disappear, maybe he had already made the decision in his mind that he was leaving and checked out on the team.

I never knew what Johnson was really trying to do, and I guess I wasn't the only one as all of the guys on offense had no more clue as well. I was really disappointed with Johnson.

I am tired of the offense that has been around for years at UW, and that is; run, run, missed pass and then punt! I have the feeling that a bunch of the guys on offense at Wyoming are waiting to see who the new OC will be before they decide their future.
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I think you are 100% correct. We will see soon enough how they do with an OC that isn't named Jay Johnson. My fear is that it will look a lot like it did with JJ in charge.
 
LawPoke said:
I think you are 100% correct. We will see soon enough how they do with an OC that isn't named Jay Johnson. My fear is that it will look a lot like it did with JJ in charge.
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How about an OC who has been in the NFL as a coach and even as a head coach along with being the OC for Belichek at UNC?

He’s out of a job right now and I could easily see the UW media write up followed by an almost 100% regurgitation of the write up across the entire 2-4 Wyoming sports media outlets that have the ability to research the candidate and do their own writing.

Please don’t ruin the surprise by looking up Freddie Kitchens because all you need to know is his resume looks impressive if you just look at the job titles and employers ignoring the annoying performance details that don’t really reflect what a good deal Wyoming will be getting with recruits clamoring to be in association with those who have contacts with the big boys.
 
PorkerPoke said:
How about an OC who has been in the NFL as a coach and even as a head coach along with being the OC for Belichek at UNC?

He’s out of a job right now and I could easily see the UW media write up followed by an almost 100% regurgitation of the write up across the entire 2-4 Wyoming sports media outlets that have the ability to research the candidate and do their own writing.

Please don’t ruin the surprise by looking up Freddie Kitchens because all you need to know is his resume looks impressive if you just look at the job titles and employers ignoring the annoying performance details that don’t really reflect what a good deal Wyoming will be getting with recruits clamoring to be in association with those who have contacts with the big boys.
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I cant't see happening. When I googled him one of the images that came up was him on the sidelines for BYU. That is disqualifier in my eyes.
 
doreno5 said:
I cant't see happening. When I googled him one of the images that came up was him on the sidelines for BYU. That is disqualifier in my eyes.
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This is interesting because I am 99% sure that he has never coached at or has any affiliation with BYU at all.

AI photo maybe?
 
Here is the 12-12-25 current list of FBS looking for OC’s:

G level
Bowling Green
East Carolina
James Madison
Memphis
Middle Tennessee State
Nevada
UConn
UTSA
Wyoming

P level
North Carolina
Ohio State
Texas A&M

Nevada, Bowling Green and Middle Tennessee State are the most likely to be at the Wyoming financial level or below.

I am guessing the other G level might have more flexibility than Wyoming.

No need to even think we are a choice with the P level programs.
 
Brew_Poke said:
Man, were losers if we can't hire an OC in 3 weeks.
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Missouri is looking now but Texas A&M isn’t.

Otherwise the same teams are still looking.

More and more the quality assistants that a place like Wyoming could get are being retained elsewhere at competitive rates. Is Wyoming too big a risk anymore as compared to being a stepping stone like we once were?

If you are a decent coordinator it’s your market. A good time to be selective. Being a coordinator at a bottom feeder in a conference just ripped apart isn’t the recipe to entice.
 
PorkerPoke said:
Missouri is looking now but Texas A&M isn’t.

Otherwise the same teams are still looking.

More and more the quality assistants that a place like Wyoming could get are being retained elsewhere at competitive rates. Is Wyoming too big a risk anymore as compared to being a stepping stone like we once were?

If you are a decent coordinator it’s your market. A good time to be selective. Being a coordinator at a bottom feeder in a conference just ripped apart isn’t the recipe to entice.
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The risk is you will take the job and be fired in a year when Wyoming hires a new head coach. Not a decent in-demand OC is dumb enough to take this job. We will be either hiring another buddy of Sawvel who has no other place to go or some position coach from another school looking to add OC to a resume.
 
PorkerPoke said:
Missouri is looking now but Texas A&M isn’t.

Otherwise the same teams are still looking.

More and more the quality assistants that a place like Wyoming could get are being retained elsewhere at competitive rates. Is Wyoming too big a risk anymore as compared to being a stepping stone like we once were?

If you are a decent coordinator it’s your market. A good time to be selective. Being a coordinator at a bottom feeder in a conference just ripped apart isn’t the recipe to entice.
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We don't pay competitively, else we'd have made a hire.
 
Brew_Poke said:
We don't pay competitively, else we'd have made a hire.
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We don't pay competitively enough for our situation.

I'm betting the situation more than the pay. A failing hc that obviously knows very little about offense and a roster mostly devoid of offensive talent with presumably not enough nil to fix it in the portal in addition to hopes of retention pinned on the university's ability to afford a buyout or not.

That's going to take some dollars. If the situation were better, we pay enough.
 
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