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NFL Draft - UDFAs

No news on Eric Abojei (at least none I can find). A few years ago, I would have predicted that either he or Coldon would be the most likely to be drafted and make an NFL roster.

Honestly, what has been potentially proven, is that transferring to a P5 isn't really going to matter in terms of NFL draft stock. If Coldon sticks at Wyoming, he is a sure fire starter with big numbers and I think he gets drafted late. As it stands, he went to OU, was in and out of the starting lineup and is signed as an UDFA.

As to other guys, Valladay was never going to be drafted regardless of whether he stayed, entered last year, or transferred. The guy had a heck of a career and I wouldn't be shocked if he makes an NFL roster. While Titus Swen is the more physically gifted player, I find it unlikely that Swen sticks around very around (I could be wrong).
 
OrediggerPoke said:
No news on Eric Abojei (at least none I can find). A few years ago, I would have predicted that either he or Coldon would be the most likely to be drafted and make an NFL roster.

Honestly, what has been potentially proven, is that transferring to a P5 isn't really going to matter in terms of NFL draft stock. If Coldon sticks at Wyoming, he is a sure fire starter with big numbers and I think he gets drafted late. As it stands, he went to OU, was in and out of the starting lineup and is signed as an UDFA.

As to other guys, Valladay was never going to be drafted regardless of whether he stayed, entered last year, or transferred. The guy had a heck of a career and I wouldn't be shocked if he makes an NFL roster. While Titus Swen is the more physically gifted player, I find it unlikely that Swen sticks around very around (I could be wrong).
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I was going to say the same thing. Transferring didn't do a damn thing to help these guys get drafted. Azizi Hearn too
 
LanderPoke said:
OrediggerPoke said:
No news on Eric Abojei (at least none I can find). A few years ago, I would have predicted that either he or Coldon would be the most likely to be drafted and make an NFL roster.

Honestly, what has been potentially proven, is that transferring to a P5 isn't really going to matter in terms of NFL draft stock. If Coldon sticks at Wyoming, he is a sure fire starter with big numbers and I think he gets drafted late. As it stands, he went to OU, was in and out of the starting lineup and is signed as an UDFA.

As to other guys, Valladay was never going to be drafted regardless of whether he stayed, entered last year, or transferred. The guy had a heck of a career and I wouldn't be shocked if he makes an NFL roster. While Titus Swen is the more physically gifted player, I find it unlikely that Swen sticks around very around (I could be wrong).
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I was going to say the same thing. Transferring didn't do a damn thing to help these guys get drafted. Azizi Hearn too
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Yup...The NFL doesn't miss much talent anymore...there was a day when guys could slip through the cracks at lower levels but that isn't the case anymore.

Guys that transfer nowadays are doing it for college reasons...not pro reasons...if that makes sense.
 
One thing that stood during the draft to me was how few players who were not from P5 schools got drafted at all. The first guy from the Mountain West was the QB from Fresno State in the 4th round. My take is that transferring to a P5 school will be what a lot of NFL hopeful players do but that it does not do much for their chances .

I was happy for X getting some guaranteed money. It will be interesting to see what happens with Sven, I do not believe he will make it in the pros, he has the physical talent but lacks the kind of character X seemed to display.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
No news on Eric Abojei (at least none I can find). A few years ago, I would have predicted that either he or Coldon would be the most likely to be drafted and make an NFL roster.

Honestly, what has been potentially proven, is that transferring to a P5 isn't really going to matter in terms of NFL draft stock. If Coldon sticks at Wyoming, he is a sure fire starter with big numbers and I think he gets drafted late. As it stands, he went to OU, was in and out of the starting lineup and is signed as an UDFA.

As to other guys, Valladay was never going to be drafted regardless of whether he stayed, entered last year, or transferred. The guy had a heck of a career and I wouldn't be shocked if he makes an NFL roster. While Titus Swen is the more physically gifted player, I find it unlikely that Swen sticks around very around (I could be wrong).
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Abojei invited to Dolphins rookie mini camp
 
303cowboy said:
OrediggerPoke said:
No news on Eric Abojei (at least none I can find). A few years ago, I would have predicted that either he or Coldon would be the most likely to be drafted and make an NFL roster.

Honestly, what has been potentially proven, is that transferring to a P5 isn't really going to matter in terms of NFL draft stock. If Coldon sticks at Wyoming, he is a sure fire starter with big numbers and I think he gets drafted late. As it stands, he went to OU, was in and out of the starting lineup and is signed as an UDFA.

As to other guys, Valladay was never going to be drafted regardless of whether he stayed, entered last year, or transferred. The guy had a heck of a career and I wouldn't be shocked if he makes an NFL roster. While Titus Swen is the more physically gifted player, I find it unlikely that Swen sticks around very around (I could be wrong).
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Abojei invited to Dolphins rookie mini camp
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Just saw that, thanks!

Not even signed to a deal...offered to come try out at Rookie camp. To put this in perspective, the Dolphins signed 20 undrafted rookies to deals. The ultimate long shot. Prove the NFL world wrong Abojei!

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article274890681.html
 
Fun fact: 30% of NFL players are undrafted!

Get signed and it doesn't matter where you drafted. Wishing the WYO players all the best! Cheering for you guys.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Fun fact: 30% of NFL players are undrafted!

Get signed and it doesn't matter where you drafted. Wishing the WYO players all the best! Cheering for you guys.
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Undrafted is better than the 7th round most of the time. Get to choose your team and situation.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
ragtimejoe1 said:
Fun fact: 30% of NFL players are undrafted!

Get signed and it doesn't matter where you drafted. Wishing the WYO players all the best! Cheering for you guys.
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Undrafted is better than the 7th round most of the time. Get to choose your team and situation.
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I couldn't find a good number but I'll bet there are more udfa on rosters than 6/7 round guys. Some of that is obviously more udfas are signed, but I'll bet overall percentages are similar.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
OrediggerPoke said:
Undrafted is better than the 7th round most of the time. Get to choose your team and situation.
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I couldn't find a good number but I'll bet there are more udfa on rosters than 6/7 round guys. Some of that is obviously more udfas are signed, but I'll bet overall percentages are similar.
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Not exactly accurate. According to this study, 85% of 6th/7th rounders make rosters while only 37% of UDFA make rosters. However, because of the way contracts are set up, UDFAs who make rosters typically make more money than 6th/7th round picks and teams cannot control UDFA players as long.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2022/value-undrafted-free-agents

From a team's perspective, finding a good player late in the draft sets up a team well (Brock Purdy's contract is glorious for the 49ers). From a player's perspective and if they are an NFL caliber player, they are better off going undrafted than being taken in 6th or 7th.
 
LanderPoke said:
OrediggerPoke said:
Titus Swen apparently already wore out his welcome in Indy. Cut.
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Dang
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I predicted he wouldn't last long (mostly because of some apparent maturity issues). But getting cut within a week after being paid a small amount of guaranteed money and after a mere 2 days of rookie minicamp is quite shocking.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
LanderPoke said:
Dang
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I predicted he wouldn't last long (mostly because of some apparent maturity issues). But getting cut within a week after being paid a small amount of guaranteed money and after a mere 2 days of rookie minicamp is quite shocking.
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That's basically what happened to Brett Smith at Tampa Bay, right? Cut after the first mini-camp?
 
MrTitleist said:
OrediggerPoke said:
I predicted he wouldn't last long (mostly because of some apparent maturity issues). But getting cut within a week after being paid a small amount of guaranteed money and after a mere 2 days of rookie minicamp is quite shocking.
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That's basically what happened to Brett Smith at Tampa Bay, right? Cut after the first mini-camp?
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I believe Brett Smith at least made it to full team OTAs and then was cut during OTAs.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
LanderPoke said:
Dang
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I predicted he wouldn't last long (mostly because of some apparent maturity issues). But getting cut within a week after being paid a small amount of guaranteed money and after a mere 2 days of rookie minicamp is quite shocking.
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I would bet there is a back story involving conduct rather than playing ability.
 
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