Next 4 years, 4 different QBs.

[BeaverPoke]

2011: Brett Smith
2012: Brett Smith
2013: Brett Smith

Now...

2014: Stratton
2015: Cameron Coffman
2016: Aaron Young
2017: Fort (from Gillette)

Then likely, 2018 will be a different starting QB as well, but maybe Fort can do it back to back seasons.

 

[J-Rod]

Still think Kirkegaard gets the opening day start this fall.

 

[fromolwyoming]

A lot depends on Fall Ball I think.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

2011: Brett Smith
2012: Brett Smith
2013: Brett Smith

Now...

2014: Stratton
2015: Cameron Coffman
2016: Aaron Young
2017: Fort (from Gillette)

Then likely, 2018 will be a different starting QB as well, but maybe Fort can do it back to back seasons.

Stratton moved behind Thornton after the spring game so he would have to leapfrog over both Thornton and Kirkegaard to be the starter in 2014....not going to say it can't happen but HIGHLY unlikely.

Aaron Young?????? You must be joking! Aaron Young appears to be best at being his own press agent. I think that there is a good chance that barring any injuries to other QB's that Aaron Young never gets the starting nod at UW.

You totally failed to mention Nick Smith who is higher rated than Fort while playing against better competition. Frankly Wyoming has some offers out to a few 3 star QB recruits this year and if we land one of them it could be a very good competition in 2015 amongst several QB's, and Aaron Young wouldn't be one of them.

The only one that I would agree with is Cameron Coffman in 2015.

 

[BeaverPoke]

2011: Brett Smith
2012: Brett Smith
2013: Brett Smith

Now...

2014: Stratton
2015: Cameron Coffman
2016: Aaron Young
2017: Fort (from Gillette)

Then likely, 2018 will be a different starting QB as well, but maybe Fort can do it back to back seasons.

Stratton moved behind Thornton after the spring game so he would have to leapfrog over both Thornton and Kirkegaard to be the starter in 2014....not going to say it can't happen but HIGHLY unlikely.

Aaron Young?????? You must be joking! Aaron Young appears to be best at being his own press agent. I think that there is a good chance that barring any injuries to other QB's that Aaron Young never gets the starting nod at UW.

You totally failed to mention Nick Smith who is higher rated than Fort while playing against better competition. Frankly Wyoming has some offers out to a few 3 star QB recruits this year and if we land one of them it could be a very good competition in 2015 amongst several QB's, and Aaron Young wouldn't be one of them.

The only one that I would agree with is Cameron Coffman in 2015.

I think you're missing my point though. I don't see anyone starting for more than 1 season in the next 4 years.

We can all agree one of the seniors is starting this season, then Coffman next year. Meaning who ever starts in 2016 will have be the only one who has a chance to start multiple seasons.
And I don't mean someone starting a game or two one season, then starting a game or two the next season. I mean the main dude, assuming we have one.

 

[J-Rod]

I'm sure the staff is pulling out all the stops on Tevis Bartlett. If he came to Wyoming, I could see him being a multi-year starter. Has offers from Colorado, Colorado State, Wyoming, and one from Iowa may be coming. That's impressive for a kid from Cheyenne. Tell the kid he has an early shot at playing time, and he could see the starting spot for years to come.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

2011: Brett Smith
2012: Brett Smith
2013: Brett Smith

Now...

2014: Stratton
2015: Cameron Coffman
2016: Aaron Young
2017: Fort (from Gillette)

Then likely, 2018 will be a different starting QB as well, but maybe Fort can do it back to back seasons.

Stratton moved behind Thornton after the spring game so he would have to leapfrog over both Thornton and Kirkegaard to be the starter in 2014....not going to say it can't happen but HIGHLY unlikely.

Aaron Young?????? You must be joking! Aaron Young appears to be best at being his own press agent. I think that there is a good chance that barring any injuries to other QB's that Aaron Young never gets the starting nod at UW.

You totally failed to mention Nick Smith who is higher rated than Fort while playing against better competition. Frankly Wyoming has some offers out to a few 3 star QB recruits this year and if we land one of them it could be a very good competition in 2015 amongst several QB's, and Aaron Young wouldn't be one of them.

The only one that I would agree with is Cameron Coffman in 2015.

I think you're missing my point though. I don't see anyone starting for more than 1 season in the next 4 years.

We can all agree one of the seniors is starting this season, then Coffman next year. Meaning who ever starts in 2016 will have be the only one who has a chance to start multiple seasons.
And I don't mean someone starting a game or two one season, then starting a game or two the next season. I mean the main dude, assuming we have one.

There hasn't been nor has there been any question that whomever starts this year will probably not be the starter in 2015 with Cameron Coffman coming in. So what is your point about multiple starters over the next few years, that goes without saying and your point is? That is the reality that the Wyoming football program finds itself in right now.

You put some names in that seemed not to have anything to do with the realities of the depth chart after spring ball or the rating of the incoming freshmen QB's....this is what I had issue with. It doesn't make much sense to just throw names up just for the sake of throwing names up. I understood your point.

I would be surprised if we didn't have a guy who starts in 2016 and then plays for at least 3 years.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

I'm sure the staff is pulling out all the stops on Tevis Bartlett. If he came to Wyoming, I could see him being a multi-year starter. Has offers from Colorado, Colorado State, Wyoming, and one from Iowa may be coming. That's impressive for a kid from Cheyenne. Tell the kid he has an early shot at playing time, and he could see the starting spot for years to come.

I just hope that we can keep Tevis in-state...he is just the type of recruit that the Wyoming program needs. Tevis can play several positions, personally my take is that he is better at the Safety position with his speed, but who knows he could play linebacker as well or wide receiver....or QB. The thing with Tevis is that he has really good speed so you wouldn't want to necessarily lose this with putting him in at the QB position if he is going to just mainly pass the ball or hand it off. Wherever Tevis plays I fully expect him to be the best at that position.

 

[BeaverPoke]

PotatoCreek, my point is that our cupboard is extremely bare. I know we were lucky to have ACS and Brett Smith, and we don't need the same type of QB with Bohl that we needed with DC. But a lot of people seem to believe that we can just do patchwork with our QB play until we get a gem again because of our running game.
Our running game isn't going to be all that successful because we have a bad O-LINE.
People at NDSU knew that they were going to run the ball, and still couldn't stop it.
People are assuming we will be the same way.
The difference is that we likely have a worse O-LINE than NDSU had last season, but will be playing FBS teams 11 times, instead of 1 time a season. People will know we will be running the ball, but will be able to stop it because our O-LINE won't be able to hold up. Our QB play is going to have to make quite a few plays every drive to give us a chance, not just a few nice plays a game.

And going back to the 4 QBs in the next 4 years, I just don't think we will get any sort of consistency out of our offense.
When ACS left and Brett took over, we were better, but the QB play was also consistent. Brett was just a better version of ACS.

This coming season we will be destroyed on the O-LINE. Wick and May will have good numbers at the end of the season, but they are going to get beat up throughout the season when defenses know we can't pass the ball.

Next season might be different with Coffman, but then we better hope the 3rd year we have an improvement at QB play, or a HUGE improvement on the O-Line.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

PotatoCreek, my point is that our cupboard is extremely bare. I know we were lucky to have ACS and Brett Smith, and we don't need the same type of QB with Bohl that we needed with DC. But a lot of people seem to believe that we can just do patchwork with our QB play until we get a gem again because of our running game.
Our running game isn't going to be all that successful because we have a bad O-LINE.
People at NDSU knew that they were going to run the ball, and still couldn't stop it.
People are assuming we will be the same way.
The difference is that we likely have a worse O-LINE than NDSU had last season, but will be playing FBS teams 11 times, instead of 1 time a season. People will know we will be running the ball, but will be able to stop it because our O-LINE won't be able to hold up. Our QB play is going to have to make quite a few plays every drive to give us a chance, not just a few nice plays a game.

And going back to the 4 QBs in the next 4 years, I just don't think we will get any sort of consistency out of our offense.
When ACS left and Brett took over, we were better, but the QB play was also consistent. Brett was just a better version of ACS.

This coming season we will be destroyed on the O-LINE. Wick and May will have good numbers at the end of the season, but they are going to get beat up throughout the season when defenses know we can't pass the ball.

Next season might be different with Coffman, but then we better hope the 3rd year we have an improvement at QB play, or a HUGE improvement on the O-Line.

Our cupboard is extremely bare at the QB position, that I agree with as you already know.

But I am not ready to say that our OL will be so bad that we will be "destroyed". I really don't know how the OL will respond. In Spring Ball it wasn't always encouraging, but we have to remember that Wyoming has probably the best DE tandem in the MWC, and with Mertens coming back along with Olive improving, the DL is going to be really good. Using the Spring Game as a barometer as far as how the OL will perform is not fair. The OL was broken up between the Gold and Brown squads while the DL was pretty much intact on the Brown squad. I do agree that our OL will probably not be as good as NDSU's was this last season, but they had a lot of experience on their OL.

We all know though, that if you don't have a passing game that can be a threat it makes the running game very difficult, and this is what scares me about this offense. Because of the lack of talent at the QB position, we might become pretty one dimensional on the offensive side (mainly running the ball) and this could make the season a very long one.

The maturation of both of the OL and the QB position will make it a lot easier to implement the type of West Coast offense that Bohl wants to run. Until these two components come together, it will make the offense struggle at certain times.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I will say with about 100% certainty that we will not enter each of the next 4 seasons with a different starting quarterback.

We don't even know who will or won't be in the program at the QB position the next 4 years so making this prediction doesn't make any sense. There will be a QB to step up and assert himself as the clear starter, just who that QB will continue to be the debate on this message board until at least the middle of next season.

Personally, I don't like the idea of bringing in a QB for two years worth of scholarships to play only one year. However, Coffman has talent and him pushing the other QBs can only make them better.

 

[joshvanklomp]

The difference is that we likely have a worse O-LINE than NDSU had last season, but will be playing FBS teams 11 times, instead of 1 time a season.

You act like Wyoming is playing LSU and Alabama every game.

The MWC isn't loaded with great defenses. In fact, the conference had six of the 20 worst rushing defenses in FCS last year (actually seven, but I'm not counting the Cowboys). Wyoming plays four of those schools in 2014.

And if you're wondering, the Wildcat team NDSU shredded for 210 yards finished 27th in the nation in 2013 (139.1), behind just Utah State (8th, 106.7 ypg) and San Diego State (22nd, 131.4 ypg) from the MWC.

I'm not naive enough to think that Wyoming is going to lead the FBS in rushing or anything like that, but I think the notion that our offensive line will be destroyed is ridiculous.

 

[BJC]

The difference is that we likely have a worse O-LINE than NDSU had last season, but will be playing FBS teams 11 times, instead of 1 time a season.

You act like Wyoming is playing LSU and Alabama every game.

The MWC isn't loaded with great defenses. In fact, the conference had six of the 20 worst rushing defenses in FCS last year (actually seven, but I'm not counting the Cowboys). Wyoming plays four of those schools in 2014.

And if you're wondering, the Wildcat team NDSU shredded for 210 yards finished 27th in the nation in 2013 (139.1), behind just Utah State (8th, 106.7 ypg) and San Diego State (22nd, 131.4 ypg) from the MWC.

I'm not naive enough to think that Wyoming is going to lead the FBS in rushing or anything like that, but I think the notion that our offensive line will be destroyed is ridiculous.

O-line that was recruited for a completely different blocking scheme and to be honest...wasn't good at that. Hoping it was coaching but I understand how folks would be concerned.

 

[Bryoming]

O-line that was recruited for a completely different blocking scheme and to be honest...wasn't good at that. Hoping it was coaching but I understand how folks would be concerned.

Teaching a pass blocking lineman to run block is easy. With the smaller splits and increased focus on strength and conditioning we'll be in much better shape than most here think. I don't think we're going to be world beaters. In fact, I'm not sure we'll even reach .500 this season. However, this team will be better and more consistent than most are giving them credit for. It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either.

 

[WYCowboy]

O-line that was recruited for a completely different blocking scheme and to be honest...wasn't good at that. Hoping it was coaching but I understand how folks would be concerned.

Teaching a pass blocking lineman to run block is easy. With the smaller splits and increased focus on strength and conditioning we'll be in much better shape than most here think. I don't think we're going to be world beaters. In fact, I'm not sure we'll even reach .500 this season. However, this team will be better and more consistent than most are giving them credit for. It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either.

I think we'll be ok too. The more reps this OL group gets with each other, the better they will be. Conditioning of the OL will make a huge difference compared to what we have seen in the past. With the use of TEs, that will help in some blocking situations too. The same is true with the QBs & RBs getting used to each other too.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

O-line that was recruited for a completely different blocking scheme and to be honest...wasn't good at that. Hoping it was coaching but I understand how folks would be concerned.

Teaching a pass blocking lineman to run block is easy. With the smaller splits and increased focus on strength and conditioning we'll be in much better shape than most here think. I don't think we're going to be world beaters. In fact, I'm not sure we'll even reach .500 this season. However, this team will be better and more consistent than most are giving them credit for. It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either.

I agree with your analysis, "It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either." Another thing that we have to keep in mind we really haven't seen the OL and what it can do under Bohl and Fuchs. At the Spring game we had two OT's that were out due to injury, couple this with the way the OL was split up and it was impossible to judge the OL. I have no doubt that we will be a much more hard nosed and physical team and fundamentally sounder next season. With this said, if we don't have a passing game all the other teams defenses has to do is put 9 in the box and we will struggle. I would not be surprised to see the opposing defenses jam the line and put 9 in the box until Wyoming proves that it is costly to do that.

The flip side of this, is that I feel our defense has the chance to be one of the better ones in the conference as long as we can stay healthy. Depth will be a key feature and considering how Bohl likes to practice, i.e. - double scrimmaging at the same time just might build more than we have seen in a while.

 

[BeaverPoke]

O-line that was recruited for a completely different blocking scheme and to be honest...wasn't good at that. Hoping it was coaching but I understand how folks would be concerned.

Teaching a pass blocking lineman to run block is easy. With the smaller splits and increased focus on strength and conditioning we'll be in much better shape than most here think. I don't think we're going to be world beaters. In fact, I'm not sure we'll even reach .500 this season. However, this team will be better and more consistent than most are giving them credit for. It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either.

I agree with your analysis, "It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either." Another thing that we have to keep in mind we really haven't seen the OL and what it can do under Bohl and Fuchs. At the Spring game we had two OT's that were out due to injury, couple this with the way the OL was split up and it was impossible to judge the OL. I have no doubt that we will be a much more hard nosed and physical team and fundamentally sounder next season. With this said, if we don't have a passing game all the other teams defenses has to do is put 9 in the box and we will struggle. I would not be surprised to see the opposing defenses jam the line and put 9 in the box until Wyoming proves that it is costly to do that.

The flip side of this, is that I feel our defense has the chance to be one of the better ones in the conference as long as we can stay healthy. Depth will be a key feature and considering how Bohl likes to practice, i.e. - double scrimmaging at the same time just might build more than we have seen in a while.

You got me thinking with the 9 in the box statement.
Yeah we are very depleted at QB, and people will be able to focus in on our running game leaving 2 corners to cover Rufran and Gentry.
DC recruited some awesome WRs, and that might be what saves our running game this season.

I don't think teams can put 9 in the box against us with the WRs we have. Rufran and Gentry are men among boys, and we are have some more talented WRs as well. 8 in the box sure, but 9?

 

[Slow Hand]

O-line that was recruited for a completely different blocking scheme and to be honest...wasn't good at that. Hoping it was coaching but I understand how folks would be concerned.

Teaching a pass blocking lineman to run block is easy. With the smaller splits and increased focus on strength and conditioning we'll be in much better shape than most here think. I don't think we're going to be world beaters. In fact, I'm not sure we'll even reach .500 this season. However, this team will be better and more consistent than most are giving them credit for. It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either.

I agree with your analysis, "It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either." Another thing that we have to keep in mind we really haven't seen the OL and what it can do under Bohl and Fuchs. At the Spring game we had two OT's that were out due to injury, couple this with the way the OL was split up and it was impossible to judge the OL. I have no doubt that we will be a much more hard nosed and physical team and fundamentally sounder next season. With this said, if we don't have a passing game all the other teams defenses has to do is put 9 in the box and we will struggle. I would not be surprised to see the opposing defenses jam the line and put 9 in the box until Wyoming proves that it is costly to do that.

The flip side of this, is that I feel our defense has the chance to be one of the better ones in the conference as long as we can stay healthy. Depth will be a key feature and considering how Bohl likes to practice, i.e. - double scrimmaging at the same time just might build more than we have seen in a while.

You got me thinking with the 9 in the box statement.
Yeah we are very depleted at QB, and people will be able to focus in on our running game leaving 2 corners to cover Rufran and Gentry.
DC recruited some awesome WRs, and that might be what saves our running game this season.

I don't think teams can put 9 in the box against us with the WRs we have. Rufran and Gentry are men among boys, and we are have some more talented WRs as well. 8 in the box sure, but 9?

I think most teams can handle our WR's one on one. We don't have a QB that can get the ball to them. Add the pressure we will see and we will not be able to run any deep routes. I don't think Gentry will start though. My impression is that the coaching staff don't like him, they don't think he works hard enough in practice. Dom will be in the slot and look for Jake and Jalen or Keenan to be at the other wide out. Gentry will come off of the bench.

 

[HR_Poke]

O-line that was recruited for a completely different blocking scheme and to be honest...wasn't good at that. Hoping it was coaching but I understand how folks would be concerned.

Teaching a pass blocking lineman to run block is easy. With the smaller splits and increased focus on strength and conditioning we'll be in much better shape than most here think. I don't think we're going to be world beaters. In fact, I'm not sure we'll even reach .500 this season. However, this team will be better and more consistent than most are giving them credit for. It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either.

I agree with your analysis, "It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either." Another thing that we have to keep in mind we really haven't seen the OL and what it can do under Bohl and Fuchs. At the Spring game we had two OT's that were out due to injury, couple this with the way the OL was split up and it was impossible to judge the OL. I have no doubt that we will be a much more hard nosed and physical team and fundamentally sounder next season. With this said, if we don't have a passing game all the other teams defenses has to do is put 9 in the box and we will struggle. I would not be surprised to see the opposing defenses jam the line and put 9 in the box until Wyoming proves that it is costly to do that.

The flip side of this, is that I feel our defense has the chance to be one of the better ones in the conference as long as we can stay healthy. Depth will be a key feature and considering how Bohl likes to practice, i.e. - double scrimmaging at the same time just might build more than we have seen in a while.

You got me thinking with the 9 in the box statement.
Yeah we are very depleted at QB, and people will be able to focus in on our running game leaving 2 corners to cover Rufran and Gentry.
DC recruited some awesome WRs, and that might be what saves our running game this season.

I don't think teams can put 9 in the box against us with the WRs we have. Rufran and Gentry are men among boys, and we are have some more talented WRs as well. 8 in the box sure, but 9?

I think most teams can handle our WR's one on one. We don't have a QB that can get the ball to them. Add the pressure we will see and we will not be able to run any deep routes. I don't think Gentry will start though. My impression is that the coaching staff don't like him, they don't think he works hard enough in practice. Dom will be in the slot and look for Jake and Jalen or Keenan to be at the other wide out. Gentry will come off of the bench.

If they can coach them to get seperation instead of looking for soft spots in coverage they might be a bigger threat than what we are expecting. All depends on the WR's coach and how well he can motivate all 15 we have on scholarship....

 

[mwc fan]

O-line that was recruited for a completely different blocking scheme and to be honest...wasn't good at that. Hoping it was coaching but I understand how folks would be concerned.

Teaching a pass blocking lineman to run block is easy. With the smaller splits and increased focus on strength and conditioning we'll be in much better shape than most here think. I don't think we're going to be world beaters. In fact, I'm not sure we'll even reach .500 this season. However, this team will be better and more consistent than most are giving them credit for. It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either.

I agree with your analysis, "It's certainly not going to be sunshine and rainbows, but it won't be doom and gloom either." Another thing that we have to keep in mind we really haven't seen the OL and what it can do under Bohl and Fuchs. At the Spring game we had two OT's that were out due to injury, couple this with the way the OL was split up and it was impossible to judge the OL. I have no doubt that we will be a much more hard nosed and physical team and fundamentally sounder next season. With this said, if we don't have a passing game all the other teams defenses has to do is put 9 in the box and we will struggle. I would not be surprised to see the opposing defenses jam the line and put 9 in the box until Wyoming proves that it is costly to do that.

The flip side of this, is that I feel our defense has the chance to be one of the better ones in the conference as long as we can stay healthy. Depth will be a key feature and considering how Bohl likes to practice, i.e. - double scrimmaging at the same time just might build more than we have seen in a while.

You got me thinking with the 9 in the box statement.
Yeah we are very depleted at QB, and people will be able to focus in on our running game leaving 2 corners to cover Rufran and Gentry.
DC recruited some awesome WRs, and that might be what saves our running game this season.

I don't think teams can put 9 in the box against us with the WRs we have. Rufran and Gentry are men among boys, and we are have some more talented WRs as well. 8 in the box sure, but 9?

I think most teams can handle our WR's one on one. We don't have a QB that can get the ball to them. Add the pressure we will see and we will not be able to run any deep routes. I don't think Gentry will start though. My impression is that the coaching staff don't like him, they don't think he works hard enough in practice. Dom will be in the slot and look for Jake and Jalen or Keenan to be at the other wide out. Gentry will come off of the bench.

Gentry is a stud. We all forget he was only a true freshman last year. If he work on getting off the press and block a little better he will be one of our best WR threats. I like Maulhardt but he gets manhandled by good cover corners. Burns shut him down in the spring game. Gentry has some of the best hands I've seen in a college receiver.