Nance update

[pokefanchaz7]

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Larry nance dunk of the night

 

[pokefanchaz7]

Which is saying something because Colin cowherd hates small schools and is apt to be negative toward a player who comes from a small school

That's a weird comment considering Cowherd is an Eastern Washington alum.

A self-loather maybe?

I guess it was always the vibe I got from him with his rhetoric about how it's bad for big markets not to be dominate.

I hated listening to him sometimes because he hates the underdog. At least that's how it sounded to me when he was on ESPN

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Its so awesome seeing Larry Shyatts recruits succeeding after their time with him. Between DC getting signed by a state-side NBA developmental team and Larry carving out a niche with the CSU Rams of the NBA, its good to be a fan of the Pokes. It definitely instills that we have a great coach and one who will maximize the potential in every single recruit that comes here.

 

[WilyWapiti]

Its so awesome seeing Larry Shyatts recruits succeeding after their time with him. Between DC getting signed by a state-side NBA developmental team and Larry carving out a niche with the CSU Rams of the NBA, its good to be a fan of the Pokes. It definitely instills that we have a great coach and one who will maximize the potential in every single recruit that comes here.

Exactly. Watching both DC and Larry Nance Jr. during their three and four years in the program proves to me that Larry Shyatt can flat out coach.

Looking at Nance during his Freshman year (good hops, but very skinny with no post game) and DC in his Sophomore year (great bounce, no other discernible basketball skills) shows what can be done with a player with that ever-elusive upside by a coach that knows what they are doing.

It pisses me off that we have endured 20 years of Benny Dees, Joby Wright, and Heath Schroyer squandering what little talent they had available with no improvement year to year. I'll give McClain a pass as he did provide a few glimmers of hope during his tenure.

For me, player development, and wringing every last bit of production from potential, is what college sports is all about. Oh yeah, and rooting for Cinderella during March Madness!

WW

 

[FarmerPoke]

Nance had a tough game tonight against Phoenix, was a team worst -18, 0-3 from the floor, with an airballed jumper, another badly missed brick, and a missed dunk. Also had 3 reb, 1 assist, and 1 steal in 22 minutes. Can't really fault him too much tho because the Lakers were simply terrible particularly in the 4th quarter. I thought Nance really looked tired, not quite his usual energetic self, I wonder if it being the 2nd night of a back to back took it's toll. There should be better nights ahead for him hopefully!! Lakers don't play again til end of the week against Toronto.

 

[NowherePoke]

Its so awesome seeing Larry Shyatts recruits succeeding after their time with him. Between DC getting signed by a state-side NBA developmental team and Larry carving out a niche with the CSU Rams of the NBA, its good to be a fan of the Pokes. It definitely instills that we have a great coach and one who will maximize the potential in every single recruit that comes here.

Exactly. Watching both DC and Larry Nance Jr. during their three and four years in the program proves to me that Larry Shyatt can flat out coach.

Looking at Nance during his Freshman year (good hops, but very skinny with no post game) and DC in his Sophomore year (great bounce, no other discernible basketball skills) shows what can be done with a player with that ever-elusive upside by a coach that knows what they are doing.

It pisses me off that we have endured 20 years of Benny Dees, Joby Wright, and Heath Schroyer squandering what little talent they had available with no improvement year to year. I'll give McClain a pass as he did provide a few glimmers of hope during his tenure.

For me, player development, and wringing every last bit of production from potential, is what college sports is all about. Oh yeah, and rooting for Cinderella during March Madness!

WW

It's almost impressive how much talent Schroyer squandered in a sick way. Shyatt took basically his leftovers (after the top returnees in Jackson and MBaye left) and made them a solid 20 win team.

Look at the talent that Schroyer wasted in 4 short years:

Inherited:

Brandon Ewing - Can you imagine what Brandon would do right now with the new rules emphasis? He would live at the free throw line.

Brad Jones - Toughest little guard you will ever see. Was so much better under McClain than under Schroyers "leadership"

Joseph Taylor - Big time athlete and a better offensive game than people gave him credit for.

Adam Waddell - Technically signed under McClain

Recruited:

Afam Muojeke - I won't blame Schroyer here as it was really injuries that derailed Afam's career, but Afam was a 6'8" wing with the ability to score at three levels. MWC FOY in 08-09 (proving me wrong).

Tyson Johnson - Averaged 20/10 as an undersized PF in JC and later averaged 13/7 while shooting over 80% from the FT line for the Pokes. Not very tall, but strong and quick with a nose for the ball and very skilled. If we could clone Tyson, it would be exactly what the current Pokes are missing

Sean Ogirri - Best shooter in UW history. Statistically his one season was easily the best in UW history (check the media guide if anyone doesn't believe me), but the eye test was more impressive. I have never seen a prettier shot. They seemed to just settle softly in the basket. Now, he didn't play a lick of defense, but you have to wonder what he could have done with a better coaching staff.

AJ Davis - Big guard (6'6" 210) with high level athleticism. Would average 16 ppg for James Madison after leaving UW. Seemed to have significant attitude issues, so it's hard to say what he could have been but the talent was impressive.

Djibril Thiam - Athletic and long

Desmar Jackson - Obviously had off court issues, but the talent was clear. Another MWC FOY and a guy that would absolutely be able to live at the line with the current rules.

Leonard Washington - Fortunately was able to play under Shyatt instead.

Amath Mbaye - High level athlete, was successful in the Big 12.

Thomas Manzano - Forgotten because his tenure was so short, but a strong athletic guard that could get to the rim and score in a variety of ways. Transferred to D2 due to academics/clock eligibility reasons after leaving UW and was dominant (20 ppg+) at that level.

Pako Cruz - Very good shooter, steady skilled player.

Luke Martinez - Killer shooter, was able to play under Shyatt and blossomed defensively as well.

Daylen Harrison - Solid D1 starter at EMU

Jaydee Luster - MWC DPOY under Shyatt



That's not even everybody. Just think about what Shyatt could do with some of those pieces. Obviously there were some attitude/off court issues with a lot of these players and some of them were the backbone of Shyatt's first two teams, but so much squandered talent.

I think you could make a pretty good case that Schroyer recruited more talent in his 4 years than Shyatt has in his 4 years and yet the results show the opposite (and Shyatt's greatest success was with his own recruits however modest the overall talent level outside of Nance/Adams).

Anyway, I forgot where I was going with all of this, but I agree that Shyatt has proven he can develop players and a program culture.

It has been obvious from his first year that Shyatt's success will be based on his ability to recruit at a mid-pack MWC level. At times he has been successful, not so at other times. Shyatt can coach and develop players, but he isn't a miracle worker. We simply need more talent in the program to be consistently competitive.

 

[McPeachy]

AJ Davis- Big guard (6'6" 210) with high level athleticism. Would average 16 ppg for James Madison after leaving UW. Seemed to have significant attitude issues, so it's hard to say what he could have been but the talent was impressive.

What I liked, well, admired, most about AJ...was that he received regular occurring blowjob's from one of the female athletic administrators during his tenure at Wyoming.

:shock:

 

[cali2wyo]

AJ Davis- Big guard (6'6" 210) with high level athleticism. Would average 16 ppg for James Madison after leaving UW. Seemed to have significant attitude issues, so it's hard to say what he could have been but the talent was impressive.

What I liked, well, admired, most about AJ...was that he received regular occurring blowjob's from one of the female athletic administrators during his tenure at Wyoming.

:shock:

Did she leave? Otherwise, why transfer? lol

 

[McPeachy]

AJ Davis- Big guard (6'6" 210) with high level athleticism. Would average 16 ppg for James Madison after leaving UW. Seemed to have significant attitude issues, so it's hard to say what he could have been but the talent was impressive.

What I liked, well, admired, most about AJ...was that he received regular occurring blowjob's from one of the female athletic administrators during his tenure at Wyoming.

:shock:

Did she leave? Otherwise, why transfer? lol

Yes. And regardless, she was disgusting cum dumpster. uke:

 

[wyocowboy2014]

AJ Davis- Big guard (6'6" 210) with high level athleticism. Would average 16 ppg for James Madison after leaving UW. Seemed to have significant attitude issues, so it's hard to say what he could have been but the talent was impressive.

What I liked, well, admired, most about AJ...was that he received regular occurring blowjob's from one of the female athletic administrators during his tenure at Wyoming.

:shock:

Did she leave? Otherwise, why transfer? lol

Yes. And regardless, she was disgusting cum dumpster. uke:

Did she move to WVU?

 

[McPeachy]

AJ Davis- Big guard (6'6" 210) with high level athleticism. Would average 16 ppg for James Madison after leaving UW. Seemed to have significant attitude issues, so it's hard to say what he could have been but the talent was impressive.

What I liked, well, admired, most about AJ...was that he received regular occurring blowjob's from one of the female athletic administrators during his tenure at Wyoming.

:shock:

Did she leave? Otherwise, why transfer? lol

Yes. And regardless, she was disgusting cum dumpster. uke:

Did she move to WVU?

You have worked at UW for a while I see.

 

[wyocowboy2014]

AJ Davis- Big guard (6'6" 210) with high level athleticism. Would average 16 ppg for James Madison after leaving UW. Seemed to have significant attitude issues, so it's hard to say what he could have been but the talent was impressive.

What I liked, well, admired, most about AJ...was that he received regular occurring blowjob's from one of the female athletic administrators during his tenure at Wyoming.

:shock:

Did she leave? Otherwise, why transfer? lol

Yes. And regardless, she was disgusting cum dumpster. uke:

Did she move to WVU?

You have worked at UW for a while I see.

I actually worked there for a very short period of time, but it didn't take long to understand her personality.

 

[laxwyo]

Larry playing on tnt right now

 

[Wyo2dal]

Lakers looking like Wyoming against ISU putting enough bricks up to build a homeless shelter.

 

[laxwyo]

I remember talking heads saying steph curry wouldn't be able to compete in the NBA. Kobe is done. That dude is terrible. Lakers are so bad

Nance is currently tied with team high 10 pts in only 18 minutes

 

[PokeOLoco]

Well lakers are a dumpster fire on steroids, but Larry looked great. He does a lot of directing when he's out on the court, I can definitely see him beginning to become a bit of a leader on that team

 

[LanderPoke]

I haven't been able to watch any of his games. Is Larry better than Julius Randle?

 

[cali2wyo]

I haven't been able to watch any of his games. Is Larry better than Julius Randle?

Short answer: No. The Lakers have basically zero offensive identity and Randle is better at creating his own shot. While Larry is a better defender, their team defense is horrible so it doesn't matter what one guy does on D when the other 4 aren't moving around like they should. Larry is of course more athletic so he can put himself in positions to get more rebounds, steals, etc. Since they typically play with different units it's hard to judge though, I'm not a big enough Lakers fan to watch their practices lol.

I think it would be interesting to see both of them on the floor together. In 5 years, I am certain Larry will still be contributing in the NBA. Randle might be anywhere from an all-star to bench player to out of the league by then, he's harder to forecast for.

 

[FarmerPoke]

AJ Davis- Big guard (6'6" 210) with high level athleticism. Would average 16 ppg for James Madison after leaving UW. Seemed to have significant attitude issues, so it's hard to say what he could have been but the talent was impressive.

What I liked, well, admired, most about AJ...was that he received regular occurring blowjob's from one of the female athletic administrators during his tenure at Wyoming.

:shock:

Did you mean Josh Davis? Cause the timeline isn't right for AJ Davis, or else I'm confusing with someone else

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Here is a really nice article on Mr. Nance.

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