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McManamen goes from Torrington star to MW's hottest shooter

cali2wyo said:
wellpoke said:
BeaverPoke said:
When will we realize Shyatt knows just a little bit more about developing basketball players than us?
We give him the credit AFTER it's done, but call him out and question him BEFORE it's done.
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Kind of like you're constantly doing with Bohl?

Pot, meet kettle.

By the way, I agree with you. But I also think Bohl should be given time to implement and develop his system, as Shyatt has been. Seems to be working out for the basketball program.

Go Pokes!!
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The difference is, not a single Bohl recruit at Wyoming has gone to the pros, and not a single team of Bohl recruits has won the MW conference championship. Sure, Bohl was able to be successful and accomplish those things in Fargo. That shouldn't be ignored, but it also shouldn't be a guarantee that things will work here. I think it's fair to question Bohl until it is proven in Laramie, but at the same time I can see how others are expecting great things in the near future given his history.
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He hasn't been here 4 years!!! Jesus H. He hasn't had a class graduate yet.... Don't kid yourself, Brian Hill will be playing on Sundays if he wants to...

And frankly thats not true. Wentz is the #1 QB coming into the combine.... I'd bet there are more players in the NFL right now from NDSU than there is from UW....

EDIT: I was wrong. According to ESPN, NDSU has 7 current alum in the NFL while Wyoming also has 7. I think Bohl knows what he's doing. Truthfully Bohl has 7 (all who played for Bohl 3 or 4 seasons, 6 were his recruits) while Koenning has 1, Glenn has 1 and CDC has 5 (if my thought process is correct)...
 
Well first off congrats to Jason McMAN! He's been playing lights out for us and has been a leader as well. So rarely do we ever get WYO WYO greats to come through the program let alone to fly high at the D-1 level. Just AWESOME!!!! Yes he's blown the roof off my own expectations of him. His development says a lot about himself and our program.

I'm also with what others are saying on here about guys we don't think can hack it. Jason McMAN looked to be one of those guys too his freshman year. His sophomore year we thought nothing more then just a bench guy. Beginning this year we had lots of doubters. Now he's the best 3 point shooter in the conference and that's far from all he does for this team. Just saying all these other guys could make similar jumps Herndon, Leiberman, TW3, and Barnes. Yeah I wish Liebs and Barnes would redshirt but I know that's probably not a possibility any more. It's the one big difference there, Jason redshirted and he himself said it was a critical thing to do in his progression. Still I'm not giving up on the other guys having a big jump from soph to junior year.
 
Let's see here Shyatt vs Bohl.

Shyatt came in and won 20+ his first two seasons.
Bohl has gone 6-18.

Yep, so a big burn, totally Pot meet Kettle. Because we all know Wyoming football has proven time and time again to win.

Get real.
 
Totally hijacking the thread here, but:
BeaverPoke said:
Let's see here Shyatt vs Bohl.
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Why does Bohl not get the same level of respect and credit as Shyatt?

Both took over what were effectively dumpster fires of programs. Both had great success at different levels of their games. Some would argue that it's much easier to right a ship in basketball than football. You have to recruit three or four guys a year, not 25 or 30. And I still think Bohl would be in a different place if Smith had stayed. There were a lot of questions about Shyatt's method, recruiting, and game decisions in the beginning. Who could have predicted that Nance - a nearly unrecruited player - would turn into a first rounder? Or that McManamen (to get us sort of back on topic) would turn in to the player he is? Shyatt did, and most of us were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt to prove it. I'm glad we did.

It took Shyatt four years to get to the point where we were competing for championships - in a sport where it's "easier" to right the ship. Why does Bohl not get at least that long? Yeah, results haven't been what we all wanted, but when have they been at Wyoming in the last decade? Maybe, just maybe, Bohl knows a bit more about recruiting and developing football players than you or me. Maybe we should give him some credit (Brian Hill, Andrew Wingard) BEFORE it's done, rather than throw him under the bus before he has a chance to get it done.

GO POKES!
 
BeaverPoke said:
Let's see here Shyatt vs Bohl.

Shyatt came in and won 20+ his first two seasons.
Bohl has gone 6-18.

Yep, so a big burn, totally Pot meet Kettle. Because we all know Wyoming football has proven time and time again to win.

Get real.
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Haha are you implying Bohl had the same level of "talent" at his disposal the Shyatt had? Shroyer was a turd but he could recruit. 20 wins isn't like he won the conference or anything. He has two CBIs and a NO postseason in his first 3 season (EDIT: I remembered wrong. He has 3 CBI appearances). Not really like he was blowing up the MWC scene. His success wasnt that superb. He, truthfully, did a great job of saving his own skin with the magical run last season. He was staring straight in the face of another CBI appearance and his seat was going to start getting hot. Again, I love Shyatt but he hasn't blown the lid off here. He's a miracle away from missing ALL post season play again. Remind me again how he's so much better than Bohl outside of last years cinderella story?

If you really think Bohl sucks because he couldn't turn his dumpster fire into gold in two seasons than you really are crazy. Turning a football program around is vastly different than a basketball program. Bohl has shown a propensity to recruit kids that no one wants and turn them into producers immediately, something Shyatt struggles with (outside of Adams). Bohl has shown the propensity to NOT put up with failure and trims the fat. He will get UW football to a place resembling success and I think this fall will be a huge step forward. Just because you hate him doesn't mean he's a failure. You're trying to compare Bohl's two rough years to Shyatt's 6 season of moderate success. It doesnt work like that
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
He, truthfully, did a great job of saving his own skin with the magical run last season. He was staring straight in the face of another CBI appearance and his seat was going to start getting hot.
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Wrong.

We were serious, legitimate contenders to win the regular season title before the mono episode
 
cali2wyo said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
He, truthfully, did a great job of saving his own skin with the magical run last season. He was staring straight in the face of another CBI appearance and his seat was going to start getting hot.
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Wrong.

We were serious, legitimate contenders to win the regular season title before the mono episode
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Yet the mono thing happened and come tournament time we were not, repeat NOT, a contender or in a place other than destined for CBI
 
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How did this turn into a Bohl vs Shyatt thing??? I mean I'm happy with both those coaches. Bohl does need time. Comparing football to hoops is absolutely pointless IMO. There is so much dirty money attached to football in comparison. It's hard to compete against cold hard cash and exposure(linked to cash).

Now back to the topic. Yes Jason McManamen that's it.....oh yeah he's a badass.
 
This kid just keeps amazing me. I'll admit, I was one questioning how good he could be this summer. But boy was I wrong!

Actually, my pendulum has swung in the complete opposite direction, to where I'm starting to think he has an outside chance at the NBA. The league is always looking for shooters, and JMac is a special one. It's not luck either, that stroke is SMOOTH!

He's approaching the Top 10 in 3-pointers made, and is currently second in career 3-point percentage (.411).

I hope he makes another big jump next year. He'll be the guy defenses key on with Adams gone.
 
joshvanklomp said:
This kid just keeps amazing me. I'll admit, I was one questioning how good he could be this summer. But boy was I wrong!

Actually, my pendulum has swung in the complete opposite direction, to where I'm starting to think he has an outside chance at the NBA. The league is always looking for shooters, and JMac is a special one. It's not luck either, that stroke is SMOOTH!

He's approaching the Top 10 in 3-pointers made, and is currently second in career 3-point percentage (.411).

I hope he makes another big jump next year. He'll be the guy defenses key on with Adams gone.
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Let's hold off on that.. Maybe if he averages 25 next year
 
LanderPoke said:
Let's hold off on that.. Maybe if he averages 25 next year
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking like it's a shoe-in. It's probably an extreme long shot. But I think there could be an outside chance. He's got the size and the stroke you need for a 3-point specialist.
 
joshvanklomp said:
LanderPoke said:
Let's hold off on that.. Maybe if he averages 25 next year
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking like it's a shoe-in. It's probably an extreme long shot. But I think there could be an outside chance. He's got the size and the stroke you need for a 3-point specialist.
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He needs to work on a few things...but if he keeps his 3pt shooting average in the mid 40%, then he will get some looks.
 
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