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Leonard Washington and Luke Martinez

okcwyocowboy

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I'm surprised that many of you are surprised at Wyoming struggling this year. I knew that losing Leonard Washington and Luke Martinez were going to be huge blows. Losing just Martinez last year ruined that season. It is true that Shroyer could not coach at all, however he did bring in some players with major upside. Most of them were real athletic, but couldn't shoot and were undisciplined. Shyatt is a great coach, I just hope he gets some recruits that allows him to succeed.
 
This year's team is better than last year's team. The biggest difference is we don't have a go-to back court player. Once one of our guards steps up and is willing to take the big shot (looking at you, Granberry) we will start winning the close games.
 
I agree. This years team is still better than last years team. How much better is still to be determined. I think Adams could grow into the goto guard scorer, with the drive when we need a score with granberry or grabau to knockdown a 3 off of the drive.

Our success will be determined by how quick (or at all) the team learns these types of roles. We gotta be able to get a score at the end of the game when we need it.
 
agreed somebody has to step it up and want to SHOOT THE DAMN BALL!!!! We need a 1 2 punch with Nance down low and a go to guard that can light it up
 
Nobody on this team is better than Washington and no guard is better than stomp (Luke) Last years team was better
 
Cuttslam said:
Nobody on this team is better than Washington and no guard is better than stomp (Luke) Last years team was better

Depends on what they mean by last years's team. With Luke, last year was better, but he didn't play in conference play so last years team really didn't include him. It did suck though. Not sure we are any better now.
 
I'm sorry, but you have to be wearing some heavily tinted brown and gold glasses to think that this year's team is better than last year's. Some of our losses have begun to look a little better in retrospect like Colorado and SMU, but we're still a team that beats up on nobodies and that will get beat up in the conference, so at best we are more or less equal to what we were last year. But I really think we are a tad worse, we lost to a mediocre Summit league team in Denver, barely beat an awful Summit league team in South Dakota State in OT, and lost to a very bad Nevada team. I think 5 conference wins is all we can reasonably expect, we'd be REALLY lucky to get 8.

Losing Martinez hurt. Losing Washington wasn't as tragic, for a guy that I thought had NBA athleticism, he was a non-factor too often in games. And although I'd say we've improved a little from 3, I don't think we're great. I know that we need to be a little patient with Shyatt, the program was in such a dark place before he came, but he really needs to recruit some talent here and quick. Nobody on the team makes me all that excited for the future except for Adams (kinda sorta), and next year will be year 4. The team will be all people he's brought in.
 
Honestly why isn't Haroldson playing? He can't be as bad as Derek Coole, and can stretch the floor because he has a mid range game. Just wondering.
 
Vapoke said:
Honestly why isn't Haroldson playing? He can't be as bad as Derek Coole, and can stretch the floor because he has a mid range game. Just wondering.
Isn't he the walking toothpick?
 
fromolwyoming said:
Vapoke said:
Honestly why isn't Haroldson playing? He can't be as bad as Derek Coole, and can stretch the floor because he has a mid range game. Just wondering.
Isn't he the walking toothpick?

Yes, to answer your question (Haldorson) is the walking toothpick. He looks like a fucking retarded baby giraffe galloping around the Serengeti when his is on the court. He would be a better fit at Western State than Wyoming. I don't see this kid amounting to a GD thing.

:twocents:
 
Cuttslam said:
Nobody on this team is better than Washington and no guard is better than stomp (Luke) Last years team was better
The key word here is "team". This is a better team than last year's, even though we lost two good players.
 
WYO1016 said:
Cuttslam said:
Nobody on this team is better than Washington and no guard is better than stomp (Luke) Last years team was better
The key word here is "team". This is a better team than last year's, even though we lost two good players.

I believe the team chemistry is better this season, but we lost experience and muscular power with talent.
 
I would take this team over last years 10/10 times.

I was at that CSU debacle where only Leonard and Gilmore touched the ball on every possession and we got destroyed. Gilmore May have been my least favorite PG in Wyo history.
 
ProudWYOAlum said:
I would take this team over last years 10/10 times.

I was at that CSU debacle where only Leonard and Gilmore touched the ball on every possession and we got destroyed. Gilmore May have been my least favorite PG in Wyo history.
Gilmore was awful. I hated the way he ran the team on the floor and his selfish attitude with the ball. Was not dad when he graduated
 

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