I know the Fresno fans are talking undefeated season in 2013, but the Aggies will be a stuff test no doubt. Good all-around football team. They're lucky Andersen wants to stick around.Wyo2dal said:Utah State going to be a solid addition next year to the MWC they have come so far and look so good.
Thank You! As a football player I was embarrassed they way our fanbase acted after the Toledo game. Football is a collision sport! I have seen much worse and intentional than the one Brett took.BeaverPoke said:Here's an FYI for everyone... I talked to Luke Ruff recently at coe studying for finals and we talked about the hit on Brett Smith by the Toledo safety. The safety came up to Luke and apologized and said he didn't mean to hit Smith late and Ruff said that as a safety he would have done the same exact thing. And so would anybody on the D.
So if you are still bitching about the Toledo guy hitting Brett Smith maybe football isn't your sport. Get the hell over it. It happened. We can't change anything about it. If the toledo safety is a dirty player then so is everyone else that plays D in football. Sure maybe offensive players would say the toledo guy is dirty but there is no d player that would say that.
Anyone that hopes the toledo safety gets hurt because of that is a tool in my eyes and is just blaming the entire season on a "dirty" hit that ended up not being so dirty afterall.
Cornpoke said:Thank You! As a football player I was embarrassed they way our fanbase acted after the Toledo game. Football is a collision sport! I have seen much worse and intentional than the one Brett took.BeaverPoke said:Here's an FYI for everyone... I talked to Luke Ruff recently at coe studying for finals and we talked about the hit on Brett Smith by the Toledo safety. The safety came up to Luke and apologized and said he didn't mean to hit Smith late and Ruff said that as a safety he would have done the same exact thing. And so would anybody on the D.
So if you are still bitching about the Toledo guy hitting Brett Smith maybe football isn't your sport. Get the hell over it. It happened. We can't change anything about it. If the toledo safety is a dirty player then so is everyone else that plays D in football. Sure maybe offensive players would say the toledo guy is dirty but there is no d player that would say that.
Anyone that hopes the toledo safety gets hurt because of that is a tool in my eyes and is just blaming the entire season on a "dirty" hit that ended up not being so dirty afterall.
Wyo2dal said:Cornpoke said:Thank You! As a football player I was embarrassed they way our fanbase acted after the Toledo game. Football is a collision sport! I have seen much worse and intentional than the one Brett took.BeaverPoke said:Here's an FYI for everyone... I talked to Luke Ruff recently at coe studying for finals and we talked about the hit on Brett Smith by the Toledo safety. The safety came up to Luke and apologized and said he didn't mean to hit Smith late and Ruff said that as a safety he would have done the same exact thing. And so would anybody on the D.
So if you are still bitching about the Toledo guy hitting Brett Smith maybe football isn't your sport. Get the hell over it. It happened. We can't change anything about it. If the toledo safety is a dirty player then so is everyone else that plays D in football. Sure maybe offensive players would say the toledo guy is dirty but there is no d player that would say that.
Anyone that hopes the toledo safety gets hurt because of that is a tool in my eyes and is just blaming the entire season on a "dirty" hit that ended up not being so dirty afterall.
You both should re-read the post above this one, It wasn't the one hit it was the fact they happened all game long sorry but you don't hit late that many times in a game and then apologize for it. That is just flat fucking stupid.
I would rather our defense get a few late hit calls. I'll take aggression and some questionable hits over what I saw from our defense this year. This whole "bounty" issue with the Saints is another example of BS. I'll be honest... I have many times hit another player hoping to knock them out of the game. I'm sure many players have thought the same of me. This is not a game for the weak and I thought our fans acted weak after the Toledo game.Wyo2dal said:Cornpoke said:Thank You! As a football player I was embarrassed they way our fanbase acted after the Toledo game. Football is a collision sport! I have seen much worse and intentional than the one Brett took.BeaverPoke said:Here's an FYI for everyone... I talked to Luke Ruff recently at coe studying for finals and we talked about the hit on Brett Smith by the Toledo safety. The safety came up to Luke and apologized and said he didn't mean to hit Smith late and Ruff said that as a safety he would have done the same exact thing. And so would anybody on the D.
So if you are still bitching about the Toledo guy hitting Brett Smith maybe football isn't your sport. Get the hell over it. It happened. We can't change anything about it. If the toledo safety is a dirty player then so is everyone else that plays D in football. Sure maybe offensive players would say the toledo guy is dirty but there is no d player that would say that.
Anyone that hopes the toledo safety gets hurt because of that is a tool in my eyes and is just blaming the entire season on a "dirty" hit that ended up not being so dirty afterall.
You both should re-read the post above this one, It wasn't the one hit it was the fact they happened all game long sorry but you don't hit late that many times in a game and then apologize for it. That is just flat fucking stupid.
I can live with hard hits and an aggressive defense. But not one that blatantly does late hits (on the ground or out of bounds).Cornpoke said:I would rather our defense get a few late hit calls. I'll take aggression and some questionable hits over what I saw from our defense this year. This whole "bounty" issue with the Saints is another example of BS. I'll be honest... I have many times hit another player hoping to knock them out of the game. I'm sure many players have thought the same of me. This is not a game for the weak and I thought our fans acted weak after the Toledo game.Wyo2dal said:Cornpoke said:Thank You! As a football player I was embarrassed they way our fanbase acted after the Toledo game. Football is a collision sport! I have seen much worse and intentional than the one Brett took.BeaverPoke said:Here's an FYI for everyone... I talked to Luke Ruff recently at coe studying for finals and we talked about the hit on Brett Smith by the Toledo safety. The safety came up to Luke and apologized and said he didn't mean to hit Smith late and Ruff said that as a safety he would have done the same exact thing. And so would anybody on the D.
So if you are still bitching about the Toledo guy hitting Brett Smith maybe football isn't your sport. Get the hell over it. It happened. We can't change anything about it. If the toledo safety is a dirty player then so is everyone else that plays D in football. Sure maybe offensive players would say the toledo guy is dirty but there is no d player that would say that.
Anyone that hopes the toledo safety gets hurt because of that is a tool in my eyes and is just blaming the entire season on a "dirty" hit that ended up not being so dirty afterall.
You both should re-read the post above this one, It wasn't the one hit it was the fact they happened all game long sorry but you don't hit late that many times in a game and then apologize for it. That is just flat fucking stupid.
BeaverPoke said:Here's an FYI for everyone... I talked to Luke Ruff recently at coe studying for finals and we talked about the hit on Brett Smith by the Toledo safety. The safety came up to Luke and apologized and said he didn't mean to hit Smith late and Ruff said that as a safety he would have done the same exact thing. And so would anybody on the D.
So if you are still bitching about the Toledo guy hitting Brett Smith maybe football isn't your sport. Get the hell over it. It happened. We can't change anything about it. If the toledo safety is a dirty player then so is everyone else that plays D in football. Sure maybe offensive players would say the toledo guy is dirty but there is no d player that would say that.
Anyone that hopes the toledo safety gets hurt because of that is a tool in my eyes and is just blaming the entire season on a "dirty" hit that ended up not being so dirty afterall.
TracyRingolsby said:BeaverPoke said:Here's an FYI for everyone... I talked to Luke Ruff recently at coe studying for finals and we talked about the hit on Brett Smith by the Toledo safety. The safety came up to Luke and apologized and said he didn't mean to hit Smith late and Ruff said that as a safety he would have done the same exact thing. And so would anybody on the D.
So if you are still bitching about the Toledo guy hitting Brett Smith maybe football isn't your sport. Get the hell over it. It happened. We can't change anything about it. If the toledo safety is a dirty player then so is everyone else that plays D in football. Sure maybe offensive players would say the toledo guy is dirty but there is no d player that would say that.
Anyone that hopes the toledo safety gets hurt because of that is a tool in my eyes and is just blaming the entire season on a "dirty" hit that ended up not being so dirty afterall.
I agree with you that hard hits are part of the game and people do get hurt.
Where I disagree with you is grabbing the face mask and jerking is not a hard hit. And if you review films, as the conference offices did, you could confirm five personal fouls against Robinson that conference officials say should have been called but the MAC officiating crew did not call.
When you intentionally grab the face mask and jerk the head that is not playing hard. That is a cheap shot.
BeaverPoke said:My whole thing is that our starting safety would have done the same thing. Those words coming from his own mouth.
Same thing as in hit brett smith the way robinson hit him
And another thing you say that the head coach had to tell the Toledo players to knock off the trash talk? So they are a dirty team when it is them, but it is just cowboy tough when it is us? What about the pre game BS between us and CSU? Us and Fresno St in the NM bowl a few years ago?
We are just as "dirty" as they are. But when someone else shows toughness it is dirty and when it is us, we are cowboy tough...
please... let's get back to the hoops forum and talk about something we won't just be bitching at eachother for.