BeaverPoke
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Cuttslam said:
+1
12K with suites, and the way it's going to be done is going to be BAD ASS.
Loud as hell. Just think of all the noise bouncing off the suites.
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Husker Hoops
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12K with suites, and the way it's going to be done is going to be BAD ASS.
Loud as hell. Just think of all the noise bouncing off the suites.
fromolwyoming
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Also;BeaverPoke said:
Just thinking of all the drunks bouncing off the suites.
WestWYOPoke said:
To be clear, I did not say 10K would be the new max, but that the new max will be between 10-11K. I base this statement on Robert Gagliardi's column that states, "As a result, the seating capacity of the arena will be closer to 10,000 and 11,000 as opposed to 15,000 now." http://www.wyosports.net/university...cle_7f518976-d642-11e2-bf98-0019bb2963f4.html.
I still say the answer to our empty seat problem is to sell more tickets, not downsize to a Mid-Major venue capacity. In my mind, the fact that we are able to sell 15,000 tickets to a game when our program is performing to its potential indicates that we have a much higher ceiling than a program that is satisfied with 10-12K attendance to reach a sellout. We belong at the New Mexico/Utah level and not at CSU/Utah State's level.
Back to the OP, based on our respective histories, we should not be downsizing while Nebraska is up-sizing to our current size and selling out a 15K seat venue. If UNL can do it, we darn sure should be able to.
Back to the OP, based on our respective histories, we should not be downsizing while Nebraska is up-sizing to our current size and selling out a 15K seat venue. If UNL can do it, we darn sure should be able to.[/quote]
You do realize that the University of Neb is located in Lincoln which is close to Omaha? By virtue of population comparisons this statement make little to no sense at all.
You do realize that the University of Neb is located in Lincoln which is close to Omaha? By virtue of population comparisons this statement make little to no sense at all.
YankPoke
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Slow Hand said:
You do realize that the University of Neb is located in Lincoln which is close to Omaha? By virtue of population comparisons this statement make little to no sense at all.[/quote]
Have to agree with that, plus the thought that we regularly sell 15k for basketball is not realistic. If we have about 12k it is still a decent sized arena and I think it would be a perfect size for our respective fan base.
YankPoke said:
I lived there. I know about Lincoln and Omaha. I also distinctly remember that Nebraskans seem to pretty much ignore basketball. That said, if Omaha magically makes 15K essential, then why didn't they build a bigger venue back in the 1980s?
Also, I never said that I expect to sell 15K seats every game. I just really do not like the idea that the Pokes will never be able to play before that many people at home ever again--no matter how good we are and how big the game is. Trust me on this one too, this will hurt the number of tickets we sell during a season for even a fairly good team. The people who get turned away once we remove several thousand seats are not going to simply buy a ticket for the Western State or Chadron State games to spread out the ticket sales across the season.
I am not even opposed to loosing some seats to a remodel. What irritates me is that this whole process seems to have been built on a desire to no longer have a relatively large arena and has downsizing as a specific goal. The new office space is just an excuse to make mediocre teams that do not draw the big crowds look like they come closer to selling out the arena more often. This, in my mind, exemplifies the pursuit of mediocrity that the football side of this board decries.
kdwrightuwyo
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Yeah, cause fans will absolutely hate coming into a newly refurbished arena.
YankPoke
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That, and having suites will bring more revenue for us. Plus the offices needed to be expanded and redone. Everything that is taking away from 3k seats is needed to have a better facility. Attendance will not go down, it will probably increase in a new arena, plus how many times has there even been crowds over 12k in the AA not that often. I don't see how there is anything negative in losing 3k seats while gaining a state of the art arena, that is probably going to be the best one in this region.kdwrightuwyo said:
BackHarlowRoad
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I hate state of the art things. I'd much prefer staring at a vast array of empty, dirty, ugly seats and a video screen that reminds me of my Atari in the 80s.
Seating capacity of a team's home arena has a very poor correlation with program prestige/success. As is, the AA is actually in the top 25 seating capacities in the country when it comes to on-campus arenas. I think it's important to exclude off-campus arenas as these are often designed to be multiple-use facilities for a variety of events and as a result, are typically larger.
In reality, capacity has very little to do with establishing a home court advantage. I would rank fan participation, proximity of the seats to the court, and student attendance as all more important for making an arena a tough place to play. Believe it or not, more fans doesn't even mean a louder arena. Assembly Hall at Indiana and Cameron Indoor at Duke both get much louder than North Carolina's arena which holds nearly double the capacity...even when it's filled.
I expect the changes being made to only increase the home court advantage the Pokes get at the AA. Even if you gave me the choice of a sold out AA as is, or a sold out AA after renovations, I'd take the latter even though there would be 3-4k less people.
In reality, capacity has very little to do with establishing a home court advantage. I would rank fan participation, proximity of the seats to the court, and student attendance as all more important for making an arena a tough place to play. Believe it or not, more fans doesn't even mean a louder arena. Assembly Hall at Indiana and Cameron Indoor at Duke both get much louder than North Carolina's arena which holds nearly double the capacity...even when it's filled.
I expect the changes being made to only increase the home court advantage the Pokes get at the AA. Even if you gave me the choice of a sold out AA as is, or a sold out AA after renovations, I'd take the latter even though there would be 3-4k less people.
WestWYOPoke
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TheRealUW said:
According to the NCAA website. UW is #32 for basketball stadium capacity, but as you said there are a few multi-use arenas ahead of that (I.E. Carrier Dome @ Syracuse). Also, just an FYI, Assembly Hall has a capacity just shy of 17,500, while UNC is 21,750.
http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div
Nice spreadhseet, it says that while UW is #32 in capacity, we are only #245 (out of 350) in percent of capacity used this year. Some teams with better attendance percentage: South Dakota State, Oral Roberts, & Evansville...ouch.
