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ragtimejoe1

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Not settled but looks to be on track for next hearing. Interesting that a lot centered on future athletes and how this settlement can't protect ncaa or universities from future litigation. It does nothing but settle past antitrust violations. Also clearly doesn't deal with title ix concerns.

For UW, we're getting cut 500-600k from the ncaa per year for 10 years but that only settles past lawsuits. Burman asked for a 1 time emergency fund of 1.5 mill. That only covers 2-3 years of ncaa revenue loss.

Looking forward absorbing that loss for 7-8 years + sharing revenue seems difficult when much of the revenue is state appropriation. Then add NIL and potential tv revenue drop on top of this and it's looking like a pretty tough situation. It seems all we hear is about the 1.5 mill request to the state and we hope fans step up for the rest. Going to be interesting. House Settlement + Revenue Share + NIL + unlimited scholarships (with roster limits) is going to be challenge for a lot of schools. Not sure where this is headed for us.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Not settled but looks to be on track for next hearing. Interesting that a lot centered on future athletes and how this settlement can't protect ncaa or universities from future litigation. It does nothing but settle past antitrust violations. Also clearly doesn't deal with title ix concerns.

For UW, we're getting cut 500-600k from the ncaa per year for 10 years but that only settles past lawsuits. Burman asked for a 1 time emergency fund of 1.5 mill. That only covers 2-3 years of ncaa revenue loss.

Looking forward absorbing that loss for 7-8 years + sharing revenue seems difficult when much of the revenue is state appropriation. Then add NIL and potential tv revenue drop on top of this and it's looking like a pretty tough situation. It seems all we hear is about the 1.5 mill request to the state and we hope fans step up for the rest. Going to be interesting. House Settlement + Revenue Share + NIL + unlimited scholarships (with roster limits) is going to be challenge for a lot of schools. Not sure where this is headed for us.
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It's a bad deal for Wyoming and any G6 school. If actual damages were figured in, P4 programs would be paying a lot more and G6 programs would be paying a lot less. But we are bending over because we are too afraid the big boys will leave us behind if we don't take it up the a**...but the whole argument is silly because we were already left behind.
 
The beginning of the transition to a different level. Will there be the super league, the G league then FCS, D2, D3, etc.? The super league would be able to do what they want when they want to whoever they want and make sure any uppity program suffers financially.

Enjoy what is left of this upcoming season if we make it that far because unfortunately it looks bleak for the way we have known it for so long.

I have to believe this is the #1 reason why nothing more has happened with the MWC/pea12 issue.

This will be equivalent to being thrown in a pit and clawing the sides to get out while the super group keeps piling the dirt on. The only temporary respite will be the additional lawsuits slowing the process down and the fact the super league will require new TV contracts. It can happen fast enough and 2030 is the already defined time frame which can be changed quickly.
 
stymeman said:
We don't matter anymore...and it'll only get worse...stepping stone U at its best
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Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a “stepping-stone” school. Wyoming should lean into it and become the most attractive launching pad west of the Missouri. If we can show high school players there’s a real pipeline from here to places like Creighton, Houston, or Kansas, that could actually make us more appealing.
 
PAPoke said:
Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a “stepping-stone” school. Wyoming should lean into it and become the most attractive launching pad west of the Missouri. If we can show high school players there’s a real pipeline from here to places like Creighton, Houston, or Kansas, that could actually make us more appealing.
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I couldn't agree more. We should actually market ourselves to the other big schools as a stepping stone. Use the HAPC and our developmental program. We get their studs for a year or two. We grow them. They functionally get roster spots to hold more players in their folds as the roster spot allocations are cut. As an old friend used to say, "we are all prostitutes in one way or another, we are just arguing about price and other terms."
 
LawPoke said:
I couldn't agree more. We should actually market ourselves to the other big schools as a stepping stone. Use the HAPC and our developmental program. We get their studs for a year or two. We grow them. They functionally get roster spots to hold more players in their folds as the roster spot allocations are cut. As an old friend used to say, "we are all prostitutes in one way or another, we are just arguing about price and other terms."
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Make a deal with Prime. He likes transfers anyway. He directs high school kids our way and keeps tabs on them for transfer while also sticking it to csu by helping WYO. Win-Win
 
LawPoke said:
I couldn't agree more. We should actually market ourselves to the other big schools as a stepping stone. Use the HAPC and our developmental program. We get their studs for a year or two. We grow them. They functionally get roster spots to hold more players in their folds as the roster spot allocations are cut. As an old friend used to say, "we are all prostitutes in one way or another, we are just arguing about price and other terms."
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I have always liked the baseball model where young players are developed in system by coaches who work together to develop talent from one level to the next. This seems very similar to me and while Wyoming might be the minor leagues, we still matter in the big picture.
 
stymeman said:
Hmmmm good ideas and concepts, let's see what our dipstick of an AD will do in this regard
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Nothing. The Admin will continue to follow - we never lead anything anymore. And in 10 years, we will be at the bottom of a sub-Big 2 league (with everyone else), having been pilfered in the portal year after year. The portal is the big threat. Deal with that uncertainty, build a model, and you have cracked the nut. Sure, NIL accelerates the portal activity, but if you figure a way to hold a kid for more than 1 year, you might have a shot of being upper tier in mid-majors, which is all we will ever be. Use the roster caps on the bigs to our advantage. Use the developmental facilities we have to our advantage. Use the land grant, general ed model to your advantage. Use the bigs' lack of interest in high school kids to your advantage. Simply put - be realistic. The game has simply been rigged against us for too long to think we could ever compete at the levels of Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and other big schools. In one game, we might stand a chance for a half (see TX two years ago), but to think we can punch week after week against an SEC or BIG schedule is a pipe dream. Oklahoma and Nebraska can't even do it anymore. Don't surrender - adapt and stay relevant.
 
LawPoke said:
Nothing. The Admin will continue to follow - we never lead anything anymore. And in 10 years, we will be at the bottom of a sub-Big 2 league (with everyone else), having been pilfered in the portal year after year. The portal is the big threat. Deal with that uncertainty, build a model, and you have cracked the nut. Sure, NIL accelerates the portal activity, but if you figure a way to hold a kid for more than 1 year, you might have a shot of being upper tier in mid-majors, which is all we will ever be. Use the roster caps on the bigs to our advantage. Use the developmental facilities we have to our advantage. Use the land grant, general ed model to your advantage. Use the bigs' lack of interest in high school kids to your advantage. Simply put - be realistic. The game has simply been rigged against us for too long to think we could ever compete at the levels of Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and other big schools. In one game, we might stand a chance for a half (see TX two years ago), but to think we can punch week after week against an SEC or BIG schedule is a pipe dream. Oklahoma and Nebraska can't even do it anymore. Don't surrender - adapt and stay relevant.
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The sad part is we have been really bad to marginal at the best for the past 25 years in the MWC. We had our best run under Bohl with 4 of 10 seasons above .500 in conference but with a miserable rate of success against teams that finished with winning records. We were largely successful against losing programs.

Pretty much a 6-6 record at Wyoming will be considered successful. As long as there is the Arizona bowl featuring teams that can assemble something successful life will be great on the high plains.
 
PorkerPoke said:
The sad part is we have been really bad to marginal at the best for the past 25 years in the MWC. We had our best run under Bohl with 4 of 10 seasons above .500 in conference but with a miserable rate of success against teams that finished with winning records. We were largely successful against losing programs.

Pretty much a 6-6 record at Wyoming will be considered successful. As long as there is the Arizona bowl featuring teams that can assemble something successful life will be great on the high plains.
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As a fan of Wyoming that remembers 1988, what you said is really depressing!!!!!
 
I remember all those years and the 70’s Fiesta blip and the late 80’s and the Tiller years.

Where have all the good times gone…
 
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