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Herron

Slow Hand said:
Another point they make is that he won't go across the middle, which for a slot receiver, is a big deal!

Not being a you know what here, but do you have a link to the scouting reports stating he won't go across the middle. Most of the things I saw in game and in reports suggests he is pretty tough across the middle.

Again, not being an a$$ or anything; I would just be interested to read it.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Slow Hand said:
Another point they make is that he won't go across the middle, which for a slot receiver, is a big deal!

Not being a you know what here, but do you have a link to the scouting reports stating he won't go across the middle. Most of the things I saw in game and in reports suggests he is pretty tough across the middle.

Again, not being an a$$ or anything; I would just be interested to read it.

I will look and see what I can find....What I read was he won't go across the middle and he doesn't extend for poorly thrown balls. Let me see what I can find....
 
For perspective, Sammy Watkins (SW), Mike Evans (ME), and Marqise Lee (ML) are generally considered top 3 prospects (listed with respect to Robert Herron--RH):

40: SW: 4.34; ML: 4.44; RH: 4.45; ME: 4.47

Bench: RH: 18; SW: 16; ME: 12; didn't see ML (didn't participate?)

Broad Jump: ML: 10'7"; SW: 10'6"; RH: 10'5"; (did no see ME; lots of WR below RH, however).

Vertical Jump: ML: 38"; ME: 37"; RH: 35.5"; SW: 34"

Not saying anything--Just FWIW.
 
Slow Hand said:
ragtimejoe1 said:
Slow Hand said:
Another point they make is that he won't go across the middle, which for a slot receiver, is a big deal!

Not being a you know what here, but do you have a link to the scouting reports stating he won't go across the middle. Most of the things I saw in game and in reports suggests he is pretty tough across the middle.

Again, not being an a$$ or anything; I would just be interested to read it.

I will look and see what I can find....What I read was he won't go across the middle and he doesn't extend for poorly thrown balls. Let me see what I can find....

Awesome! Thanks. I try to keep on the draft--I have no idea why. It just interests me :lol:
 
This was a review of him after the senior bowl...... loooks a little different than the one read last night. Still Looking for the one from last night.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS: Big-play specialist who blends impressive straight-line speed, good body control and toughness to star for the Cowboys. Boasts a compact, well-proportioned frame. Very good straight-line speed, as well as good lateral agility to elude and the vision to set up blocks. Good quickness and balance to complement his speed, making him a potentially very effective route-runner.
Despite lack of ideal size, shows good toughness, frequently attacking over the middle and on quick bubble screens in which he absorbs some big hits. Good body control and soft hands to adjust to inaccurate passes. Tracks the ball well over his shoulder. Performed well against top competition, including vs. the Texas Longhorns in 2012.

WEAKNESSES: Does not possess ideal height for the position and may not prove quite as fast as his hype. A bit of a project in terms of route-running, making most of his big plays on verticals, drags across the middle and quick screens.

Questionable level of competition throughout most of his career. Despite obvious big-play potential has not seen much action on special teams throughout his career, logging just three kick return attempts over his career (for a total of 39 yards) and no punt returns.

COMPARES TO: Jacoby Ford, Oakland Raiders - Herron (pronounced Her-RON) and Ford each possess one trait NFL scouts adore - straight-line speed. Like the Raiders' wideout, Herron isn't just a track star but a wideout courageous enough to handle duties across the middle and a talented pass-catcher. Size limitations, however, make each a likely complementary receiver in the NFL rather than a featured star.

--Rob Rang
 
Slow Hand said:
I will look and see what I can find....What I read was he won't go across the middle and he doesn't extend for poorly thrown balls. Let me see what I can find....
I believe this is the one you were looking for:

OVERVIEW
Two-time honorable mention All-MWC (2012-13) selection. 2013: Started all 12 games. Led team with nine receiving touchdowns and was second on the team with 72 receptions and 937 yards. 2012: Played in and started eight games. Missed four games due to a shin injury. 2011: Played in 12 of 13 games with eight starts. 2010: Played in 10 of 12 games with one start.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS
Good athlete. Exceptional straight-line timed speed -- can accelerate and get on top of DBs vertically. Quick-footed. Above-average hands. Has return capability (despite not being used as a returner because of offensive value).

WEAKNESSES
Does not play fast. Marginal toughness -- does not like crossing the middle or extending across his frame. Drifts in his routes. Short-arms the ball. Does not adjust to or track the deep ball well. Lacks physical strength and is jarred on contact after the catch. Carries the ball loosely. Disinterested blocker, especially on the backside. Regularly matched up vs. inferior competition. Has been dinged a lot and long-term durability is a concern.

BOTTOM LINE
Very diminutive, outside receiver with the timed speed to threaten the field vertically and potentially contribute in the return game. Needs to prove he can bow up against better competition and is more than a track athlete.
 
WYO1016 said:
WEAKNESSES
Does not play fast.
I'm not putting much into this analysis just because of this statement. Anyone who has watched him play knows that every time he steps on the field he is the fastest player.
 
WYO1016 said:
WYO1016 said:
WEAKNESSES
Does not play fast.
I'm not putting much into this analysis just because of this statement. Anyone who has watched him play knows that every time he steps on the field he is the fastest player.

Yeah, that is weird--thanks for the report. I haven't seen one like that yet. I've thought his game speed is good but his route running will need work.

The other fair point in the article is relative to blocking. He has a lot of work to on that if the Offense requires him to block much.

Other than that, that was one of the first questioning his toughness--interesting.
 
kansasCowboy said:
On the side here, what did our safety do?
Quest measured in at 5'11", 196 lbs., 31 3/8" arm length, 9" hands (which is very small), and put up 15 reps on the bench press. I don't think that DB's have done the 40, shuttle, 3 cone, vertical jump, or position drills yet.
 
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