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"Good enough IS good enough"- the "NEW" athletics plan,

kansasCowboy said:
Again, our women's program has maintained in the top half of the league,
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And that is our now-defined success! We don't need to do anything to women's basketball, it is successful beyond our wildest dreams!
 
Let's make this simple. Last decade, football and men's basketball, winning or losing record?
If it's losing you suck, if it's hardly above .500 you're mediocre, above .750 I'd say pretty good. End of the damn debate, that's how you measure success in athletics. Coach, qb, AD, whatever.
 
Brew_Poke said:
kansasCowboy said:
Again, our women's program has maintained in the top half of the league,
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And that is our now-defined success! We don't need to do anything to women's basketball, it is successful beyond our wildest dreams!
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Not now-defined success. Now-defined minimum standard to keep your job.

My guess is if CDC took us to 5 straight bowl games, and five consecutive 8-win seasons to finish in the upper echelon of the MWC (like the document outlines as our expectation), he'd still be our coach and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I would also venture to guess that once those expectations were met, that the new athletics plan would raise those expectations. That's how goals work. Small, incremental, short-term goals to reach the ultimate long-term goal.
 
Brew_Poke said:
kansasCowboy said:
Again, our women's program has maintained in the top half of the league,
Click to expand...
And that is our now-defined success! We don't need to do anything to women's basketball, it is successful beyond our wildest dreams!
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Well, considering most of you are complaining that we are not in the top three in men's bball or football and one aspect within our overall athletics program is women's bball... But since we have that success, I guess it's not good enough, right? This is what I mean when I say it doesn't matter if we were worse off than we are or we were going undefeated and winning champs, someone would still complain. There's always something...
 
kansasCowboy said:
Well, considering most of you are complaining that we are not in the top three in men's bball or football and one aspect within our overall athletics program is women's bball... But since we have that success, I guess it's not good enough, right? This is what I mean when I say it doesn't matter if we were worse off than we are or we were going undefeated and winning champs, someone would still complain. There's always something...
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There is a reason that they distinguish revenue and non-revenue sports. Good luck building an athletic program on non-revenue sports.
 
kansasCowboy said:
Brew_Poke said:
kansasCowboy said:
Again, our women's program has maintained in the top half of the league,
Click to expand...
And that is our now-defined success! We don't need to do anything to women's basketball, it is successful beyond our wildest dreams!
Click to expand...


Well, considering most of you are complaining that we are not in the top three in men's bball or football and one aspect within our overall athletics program is women's bball... But since we have that success, I guess it's not good enough, right? This is what I mean when I say it doesn't matter if we were worse off than we are or we were going undefeated and winning champs, someone would still complain. There's always something...
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You misread my point, or I'm too vague. The team is better than half of the rest of the conference, and that is the newly defined success. The women's basketball team has no further work to do.
 
Brew_Poke said:
kansasCowboy said:
Brew_Poke said:
kansasCowboy said:
Again, our women's program has maintained in the top half of the league,
Click to expand...
And that is our now-defined success! We don't need to do anything to women's basketball, it is successful beyond our wildest dreams!
Click to expand...


Well, considering most of you are complaining that we are not in the top three in men's bball or football and one aspect within our overall athletics program is women's bball... But since we have that success, I guess it's not good enough, right? This is what I mean when I say it doesn't matter if we were worse off than we are or we were going undefeated and winning champs, someone would still complain. There's always something...
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You misread my point, or I'm too vague. The team is better than half of the rest of the conference, and that is the newly defined success. The women's basketball team has no further work to do.
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It sure looks that way according to the plan, ridiculous as that is.
 
Not sure about other sport's coaches, but Craig Bohl doesn't give a s%^t about the wording of that 7 year strategic plan. The FCS (and my Sam Houston State Bearkats) has been steamrolled by that guy for the last three years. Sit back and watch his 2-3 year plan. You will win the conference championship in football in the time span. We're just glad he is gone. So step back from the ledge...
 
KATatonic said:
Not sure about other sport's coaches, but Craig Bohl doesn't give a s%^t about the wording of that 7 year strategic plan. The FCS (and my Sam Houston State Bearkats) has been steamrolled by that guy for the last three years. Sit back and watch his 2-3 year plan. You will win the conference championship in football in the time span. We're just glad he is gone. So step back from the ledge...
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That is not the point. This thread is discussing the lack of competency in the AD office. Lackluster results from a absence of vision. 7 year strategic plan that is nearly worthless and would get one fired in the business world. If Bohl does what you expect, then we have our lightning in a bottle. The only hope we have to change our luck.....
 
Wyolie Coyote said:
KATatonic said:
Not sure about other sport's coaches, but Craig Bohl doesn't give a s%^t about the wording of that 7 year strategic plan. The FCS (and my Sam Houston State Bearkats) has been steamrolled by that guy for the last three years. Sit back and watch his 2-3 year plan. You will win the conference championship in football in the time span. We're just glad he is gone. So step back from the ledge...
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That is not the point. This thread is discussing the lack of competency in the AD office. Lackluster results from a absence of vision. 7 year strategic plan that is nearly worthless and would get one fired in the business world. If Bohl does what you expect, then we have our lightning in a bottle. The only hope we have to change our luck.....
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Now I hate the abundant "TBD's" on there as well - but let me ask you this: Isn't Wyo's need right now to desperately get that extra $5M to stay afloat and in possible convo's for whatever the future may hold? The plan lacks a whole bunch of other things, but for once they seem to be aggressively attacking the State and making an effort to get some cash. That's all I've ever asked in the past couple years! The coaches will either burn bright or flame out - time will tell. Mediocrity brings out the worst in folks, remember when we were bottom feeders? Maybe this extra cash they are trying to get will set them over the top. But then again, maybe not.
 
kansasCowboy said:
Brew_Poke said:
kansasCowboy said:
Again, our women's program has maintained in the top half of the league,
Click to expand...
And that is our now-defined success! We don't need to do anything to women's basketball, it is successful beyond our wildest dreams!
Click to expand...


Well, considering most of you are complaining that we are not in the top three in men's bball or football and one aspect within our overall athletics program is women's bball... But since we have that success, I guess it's not good enough, right? This is what I mean when I say it doesn't matter if we were worse off than we are or we were going undefeated and winning champs, someone would still complain. There's always something...
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We aren't in the Top 3 in Women's Basketball either (5th).
 
My thoughts on the TBD in the increased funding part is that they have that there because they know they will need to get some/most of that money from the state and they are going to be lobbying hard to get it in the coming years. Maybe they even have some idea that they will be able to get some more funding from them(prob wishful thinking) but they can't put that in the public document that they will(or want/need) receive money from the state before they actually know they are getting it.

Overall I am satisfied with the plan(don't love it) cuz even though it doesn't have funding sources named it does have finacial goals to meet so if the AD can't get the goals accomplished then he will have a good reason to be fired. He were given enough rope to potentially hang himself.
 
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