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JimmyDimes
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They did that to get him on the field. I like a three headed monster of Sutton, Miller, and Kongo at RB this year...with Miller playing some WR too.WYO1016 said:
kansasCowboy
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Wyogogo said:
And their is a reason why no big school picked him up when he left.
Brett did well last year as a freshman (I think he was playing with a bad thumb on his throwing hand the last couple of games), but he and the rest of the freshmen and newcomers need to step up to the next level this season. We (the MWC) may have a chance to be included in a bcs bid this year - from what I am hearing. This is the year that the door is open.
"Okay gogo we know that Brett is your "boy", and the rest of us are pretty happy with his first year too, but would it really hurt you to root for the whole team (back ups included) and not just your buddy?"
I do root for the whole team. The "I don't root for backups" line was taken a little too literally. I just meant that if a kid earns his spot then I'll get behind him, I won't keep rooting for the guy who came in 2nds potential. KansasCowboy had it exactly right with his quote. With that being said I am excited for this season. Lots of things to work on, but also lots to look forward to. Go Pokes!
I do root for the whole team. The "I don't root for backups" line was taken a little too literally. I just meant that if a kid earns his spot then I'll get behind him, I won't keep rooting for the guy who came in 2nds potential. KansasCowboy had it exactly right with his quote. With that being said I am excited for this season. Lots of things to work on, but also lots to look forward to. Go Pokes!
kansasCowboy
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McPeachy said:
He transferred to Illinois State. D-AA or FCS. None of those big schools that were wanting him or even smaller FBS schools are wanting him. How good was he? Honestly, Smith comes in as a Frosh and is connecting with his WR's at 60-70%, Pittser 45%. And Pittser does not scramble.
laxwyo
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It's a little premature to judge a kids QB talents on one fall camp. Smith got here early because he's a gamer and wanted to take over. He got a jump on the learning curve. I do know Smith was a better QB last year and most likely this year. But that's not to say by the JR and SR years, Pittser couldn't be a better QB. I guess that's the old "his ceiling is much higher" argument. But you will never know. I know that ACS leaving seems to be one of the biggest blessings when it seemed like one of the darkest days. You just don't see starting QB's leave too often. BYU's got benched and that's why he left.
kansasCowboy said:
I feel Pittser left because he probably didn't feel he was given a chance. In fall camp wasn't he leading the #2 O against the #1 D, while Smith had it the other way around most of the time? Then Smith has an awesome year which doesn't look like a whole lot of playing time for the back ups, except for running plays. So he goes to Illinois State where he has a much better chance to play while being close to family. Illinois State is putting together a pretty decent program. Their final ranking last year was higher than most of the teams we beat and they just had a hell of a recruiting year. I thought we were losing QBs because of Arroyo, but after he left because of his personal situation, we still lose another. As long as Smith stays healthy we'll be fine for the next 3 years even if we have new guys come in and leave.
NowherePoke
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cowboyz said:
Clearly he made a step up then. I am glad we got to play and beat pansies like AFA and SDSU on the road instead of powerhouses like Illinois St. :roll:
Pittser could have landed at a MAC school, but he chose to drop down a division where he could play right away. Nothing wrong with that and I wish him well. I wish he would have stayed because I thought he had great potential and you always need more than one QB. I was pretty disappointed that he left because he didn't win the job as a true freshman.
NowherePoke said:
If playing time is a step up, then yes he did, but Illinois State isn't on par with Wyoming. Although I'd rather see us play a team like Illinois State over the powerhouse squads from Texas State and Weber State. The only thing that can keep Smith from not being the starter next season is an injury. There is probably nothing Pittser or anyone else can do to unseat him. Leave and play or stay and watch. I think that was the thought.
Well I guess I may as well chime on this tired old subject one last time before hopefully this whole subject and situation is retired forever (doubtful). This whole thing went down and played out exactly how I said it would over a year ago.
I knew Brett was more prepared and ready to step in because of two major factors: 1-He played 3 years in a situation where he was in the gun and ran a varaiation of the offense he would run at Wyoming, and was one of the most prolific QB's in Oregon HS history and won a ton of games doing it. Pittser was nothing more than a wingT QB, with a ton of hype, and a BIG arm. The fact that he had all the Elite 11 shizz did him no favors at Wyoming (except make most of the guys on Wyonation fall in love with him, and have some go as far as to say that he will go down as one of the greatest QB's in Wyoming history LOL) because ultimately you have to be comfortable in the offense, and it seemed like he never was. I think he will be fine in a pro style offense, when he has a chance to hone his skills and learn how to read college D's, and sit back and use that cannon of his. There was no way he was going to win that job last year based on his skill-set and experience. It was completely wrong for this Offense and I bet he would tell you that. I'd be curious to know what offense ISU runs but I'd be willing to bet it is more of the pro style variety. He could have transferred to Northern Illinois, which they had a graduating SR QB and run an offense that allows their QB put up a ton of yards both running and passing but that is a Spread offense and he chose to go down to D1AA and give up the FBS dream to try and play right away. I think his confidence may have took a hit so he was fine with going down a level.
2-For whatever reason he didnt have the personality to win the job. It seemed he never had the team. Call it a head start, hell, call it whatever you want, but this was, is, and will always be, as long as he is in the program, Brett Smith's team, because Brett woudn't have it any other way. We heard DC say it over and over last year "he's never had a freshman, compete like him" and after the Weber St or Texas St game last year how "there is a lockeroom full of guys who have a GREAT, GREAT, GREAT respect for the way that young man competes." Most of the guys on that team would take a bullet for that kid and that translates very well on the football field. You have to have a certain mentality, confidence, swagger, etc. to play the position and your leadership capabilities have to be freakish in order to do it well as a QB, let alone as a true freshman and 1st year starter. B Smith has it and demonstrates it whreas Pittser never did, and I believe it made a huge difference to how the team repsonded to each individual QB. It's much easier to focus on the leadership aspect when you are making the right reads and line calls but if your struggling with that element you can't possibly come off as an effective leader to the team.
BSmith has a long ways to go and hopefully the off-season surgery will take care of the issue to his passing hand. He needs to continue to develop all phases of his game and I am confident that he will. Some have called his struggles throwing the deep ball because he lacks the arm strength. I believe he has plenty of arm strength to make the deep throws but its next to impossible and would like to see someone try and throw a football deep or with any type of real velocity or accuracy with only 4 fingers. Hell, I'd pay someone $1000 bux if they could even effectively hold onto the ball with only 4 fingers without losing control of it most of the time! I got word that this is what it was like as the season wore on, especially the last half of the season for Brett.
I wish APittser all the best and hope it works out for him at ISU. He seems like a nice kid and he obviously possesses a great deal of talent. He gets to be at home while going to school for free and playing the game that he loves with a fresh start. I hope he does well and I'd be willing to bet that he will be successful.
I knew Brett was more prepared and ready to step in because of two major factors: 1-He played 3 years in a situation where he was in the gun and ran a varaiation of the offense he would run at Wyoming, and was one of the most prolific QB's in Oregon HS history and won a ton of games doing it. Pittser was nothing more than a wingT QB, with a ton of hype, and a BIG arm. The fact that he had all the Elite 11 shizz did him no favors at Wyoming (except make most of the guys on Wyonation fall in love with him, and have some go as far as to say that he will go down as one of the greatest QB's in Wyoming history LOL) because ultimately you have to be comfortable in the offense, and it seemed like he never was. I think he will be fine in a pro style offense, when he has a chance to hone his skills and learn how to read college D's, and sit back and use that cannon of his. There was no way he was going to win that job last year based on his skill-set and experience. It was completely wrong for this Offense and I bet he would tell you that. I'd be curious to know what offense ISU runs but I'd be willing to bet it is more of the pro style variety. He could have transferred to Northern Illinois, which they had a graduating SR QB and run an offense that allows their QB put up a ton of yards both running and passing but that is a Spread offense and he chose to go down to D1AA and give up the FBS dream to try and play right away. I think his confidence may have took a hit so he was fine with going down a level.
2-For whatever reason he didnt have the personality to win the job. It seemed he never had the team. Call it a head start, hell, call it whatever you want, but this was, is, and will always be, as long as he is in the program, Brett Smith's team, because Brett woudn't have it any other way. We heard DC say it over and over last year "he's never had a freshman, compete like him" and after the Weber St or Texas St game last year how "there is a lockeroom full of guys who have a GREAT, GREAT, GREAT respect for the way that young man competes." Most of the guys on that team would take a bullet for that kid and that translates very well on the football field. You have to have a certain mentality, confidence, swagger, etc. to play the position and your leadership capabilities have to be freakish in order to do it well as a QB, let alone as a true freshman and 1st year starter. B Smith has it and demonstrates it whreas Pittser never did, and I believe it made a huge difference to how the team repsonded to each individual QB. It's much easier to focus on the leadership aspect when you are making the right reads and line calls but if your struggling with that element you can't possibly come off as an effective leader to the team.
BSmith has a long ways to go and hopefully the off-season surgery will take care of the issue to his passing hand. He needs to continue to develop all phases of his game and I am confident that he will. Some have called his struggles throwing the deep ball because he lacks the arm strength. I believe he has plenty of arm strength to make the deep throws but its next to impossible and would like to see someone try and throw a football deep or with any type of real velocity or accuracy with only 4 fingers. Hell, I'd pay someone $1000 bux if they could even effectively hold onto the ball with only 4 fingers without losing control of it most of the time! I got word that this is what it was like as the season wore on, especially the last half of the season for Brett.
I wish APittser all the best and hope it works out for him at ISU. He seems like a nice kid and he obviously possesses a great deal of talent. He gets to be at home while going to school for free and playing the game that he loves with a fresh start. I hope he does well and I'd be willing to bet that he will be successful.
laxwyo
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Wyoirish said:
I think that B smith is the exact kind of leader a team needs when you have a coach like DC who is most likely a huge asshole. I don't dislike coaches like that but I think a team bonds together with a team leader like that when you have a coach who has a certain style.
