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Future Petition

J-Rod

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I have followed the Cowboys every week for quite some time now, wake up Saturday and many hours before my Warriors play I watch or listen to the UW games. Over these years I've seen a team with the talent to make some noise, I've seen them step up when the big game comes around. But sadly I've also noticed the terrible management on offense. We all know that Coach Bill is the big reason for the lack of knowledge on offense. Every year the Pokes seem to have the team to make some noise, get to a bowl game and build the program, but every year a terrible offense always fails to help a very stout defense. And what do you know, Wyoming may be on pace to do this once again this season. Look below at our last 5 games, scary to think we just may lose all our games here on out. We haven't beaten SDSU down in San Diego since 1995, Utah is going to be tough at their place, and the others are all toss ups, we haven't been good in close games this year. Anyways my point, I guarantee you if we lose 3-5 games here on out and get snubbed from a bowl game it will be because of a lack on offense. If this were to occur, I think all members of Wyoming Nation should send an e-mail to Mr.Burman to dismiss Coach Bill from Glenn's staff. He has been holding the program back for years, its a wonder that he led Montana to a National title, cause he sure isn't producing here. I think we all need to do something, cause I'm not sure Burman will notice such a thing with it being noted to him. Anyways like I said wait a few weeks and lets see how the dust clears, if its still foggy lets do something......

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Excellent idea!

In fact, everyone that roots for the Cowboys we do needs to email Burman. In fact, I suggest we also email Tom Buchanan, UW's president, as well.

COCKHILL NEEDS TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I still find it amazing how Cockhill managed to make Montana's offense formidable when he was here, and now it's a shell of it's former self.
 
In the AFA game, the TV panned to the Poke sidelines often when Wyo had the ball. There were two animated coaches on the sidline. One was black the other caucasian. Was one of those Cockhill?

In any case the offense reminds me of the days when Vic ran things. No stealth, no imagination, no trickery, and so no excitement at all (except that created by Moore) and of course, no scoring.
 
Adv8RU12 said:
In the AFA game, the TV panned to the Poke sidelines often when Wyo had the ball. There were two animated coaches on the sidline. One was black the other caucasian. Was one of those Cockhill?

In any case the offense reminds me of the days when Vic ran things. No stealth, no imagination, no trickery, and so no excitement at all (except that created by Moore) and of course, no scoring.

Cockhill is the white guy.

And I agree, we NEED to get rid of Cockhill. At times, I feel we're back in the Keonning Era and that's not a good feeling.
 
Wyokie said:
Adv8RU12 said:
In the AFA game, the TV panned to the Poke sidelines often when Wyo had the ball. There were two animated coaches on the sidline. One was black the other caucasian. Was one of those Cockhill?

In any case the offense reminds me of the days when Vic ran things. No stealth, no imagination, no trickery, and so no excitement at all (except that created by Moore) and of course, no scoring.

Cockhill is the white guy.

And I agree, we NEED to get rid of Cockhill. At times, I feel we're back in the Keonning Era and that's not a good feeling.

At least during the Cockhill era we've won more games this season than we did in 3 years combined!
 
MrTitleist said:
Wyokie said:
Adv8RU12 said:
In the AFA game, the TV panned to the Poke sidelines often when Wyo had the ball. There were two animated coaches on the sidline. One was black the other caucasian. Was one of those Cockhill?

In any case the offense reminds me of the days when Vic ran things. No stealth, no imagination, no trickery, and so no excitement at all (except that created by Moore) and of course, no scoring.

Cockhill is the white guy.

And I agree, we NEED to get rid of Cockhill. At times, I feel we're back in the Keonning Era and that's not a good feeling.

At least during the Cockhill era we've won more games this season than we did in 3 years combined!

I know but with the talent we have we should be either 6-1 or 7-0 right now!
 
I wouldn't go as far as 7-0, even 6-1 seems like a stretch, but we should certainly be beating teams like New Mexico, and giving a team like Air Force a run for it's money!
 
I think 6-1 is not a stretch. Boise at home is VERY tough. The thing that frustrates me the most is to see how great we came out of the gate against Virginia and compare it to the last few weeks. Yet even the Virginia game we didn't score as much as we should have. We could not finish our drives and had to settle for field goals due mostly, I feel, to poor play calling. Bottom line is when you look across the board at all the issues we are having that are attributing to the losses, one thing keeps coming up, our offense and who is calling the shots. We have the talent to suceed, we just need someone to lead that talent.
 
I've heard Glenn mentioned for Washington State (along with MT coach Bobby Hauck) and Nebraska (who could be looking at Navy's coach).
 
Cockhill is not on the sideline, he is in the booth. The two coaches on the sidelines calling in the signals with the hand signals are Ron Wisiniski (Wr coach), and the running backs coach, I cant think of his name. I think Breske may be up top too, but Im not sure.
 
Cockhill needs to be ran outta town FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think our offense is starting to rebel against him.
 
MrTitleist said:
Still boggles me that Cockhill led MT to a national championship, now this....

MT is lower division football. The lower you go - all the way down to Pop Warner football - the easier (and less skilled) you need to be as a coach. Cockhill is a texbook example of the Peter Principle.
 
Adv8RU12 said:
MrTitleist said:
Still boggles me that Cockhill led MT to a national championship, now this....

MT is lower division football. The lower you go - all the way down to Pop Warner football - the easier (and less skilled) you need to be as a coach. Cockhill is a texbook example of the Peter Principle.

Bite your tongue. There are plenty of 1-AA teams that are much better than 1-A teams, so I'm pretty sure your comment about not needing to be skilled to coach at a lower division was out of line a tiny bit.
 
MrTitleist said:
Adv8RU12 said:
MrTitleist said:
Still boggles me that hill led MT to a national championship, now this....

MT is lower division football. The lower you go - all the way down to Pop Warner football - the easier (and less skilled) you need to be as a coach. hill is a texbook example of the Peter Principle.

Bite your tongue. There are plenty of 1-AA teams that are much better than 1-A teams, so I'm pretty sure your comment about not needing to be skilled to coach at a lower division was out of line a tiny bit.

I-AA schools have their bright moments every year, they pull off some great upsets, but I can guarantee you none of them would succeed if they had to play against I-A schools week in and week out. Take Western Kentucky for example, and they're playing Sun Belt talent.
 
J-Rod said:
MrTitleist said:
Adv8RU12 said:
MrTitleist said:
Still boggles me that hill led MT to a national championship, now this....

MT is lower division football. The lower you go - all the way down to Pop Warner football - the easier (and less skilled) you need to be as a coach. hill is a texbook example of the Peter Principle.

Bite your tongue. There are plenty of 1-AA teams that are much better than 1-A teams, so I'm pretty sure your comment about not needing to be skilled to coach at a lower division was out of line a tiny bit.

I-AA schools have their bright moments every year, they pull off some great upsets, but I can guarantee you none of them would succeed if they had to play against I-A schools week in and week out. Take Western Kentucky for example, and they're playing Sun Belt talent.

Well, it's all a matter of perspective. It wasn't too long ago that some top 1-AA schools moved up and now look at them. I'm talking Boise St. and Nevada specifically. But for every Boise St. you have an Idaho. A team like Appy St., Montana, UMass could probably compete and win some games in the likes of the WAC, Big East, and Mountain West. However, you're going to get a team like Western Kentucky, who wasn't a good 1-AA football team moving up and they're getting beaten on.. no surprise there. Idaho was a top dog in 1-AA when they moved up, but they were by no means a 1-A team.. facilities, recruiting, etc doomed the Vandals. You can also look at Marshall's early on success when they moved up.. they fared VERY well and even turned out some NFL guys, but they've fallen on tough times lately, but they're by no means an Idaho-like team.

I think where the coaching comment struck my nerve was that it takes less talent to coach at 1-AA than 1-A.. total BS. Dennis Erickson started his coaching career as a Montana State Bobcat. Jim Tressel's last stop before Ohio State was Youngstown State. I believe Scott Linehan (of the Rams) used to be at Idaho. If you look at a coach like Grand Valley State's old coach who is now at U. of Cincinnati, I'd say that's some pretty good turnaround!
 
Please notice that I didn't say you ARE a less skilled coach at Pop Warner, High School, Jr. College, or Division II-A. I said I just don't think you NEED to be as good, and my observation is that the majority of coaches at those levels aren't up to the Division I task. Like Cockhill, for example. And maybe even Glenn, given his Wyo record. That does not mean to say that EVERY coach at the lower levels cannot find success at Division I. But the odds appear to be against you. I think for success, if you are a young coach, is to start as an assistant with a Division I team. Then you know what it really takes to make it. I know, I know, Dimmel and Koennig are the glaring exceptions.
 
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