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For you anti DC folk...
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BackHarlowRoad
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Wyovanian said:
Yeah, there's more to it than that, but not THAT much more. Talent exceeds all x's and o's, hate to say it.
BeaverPoke
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Wyonavian, although I would love for Wyo football to have the reputation of USC, you have to realize, that Kiffin was coaching in the 2nd hardest conference in football.
The PAC12 is stacked. The MWC is not nearly as good as the PAC12. Sure, there have been years the MWC was no doubt better, but this season, comparing the Pac12 and MWC is not even fair.
We are playing NM, CSU, and SJSU, not Oregon, Washington, and UCLA.
The PAC12 is stacked. The MWC is not nearly as good as the PAC12. Sure, there have been years the MWC was no doubt better, but this season, comparing the Pac12 and MWC is not even fair.
We are playing NM, CSU, and SJSU, not Oregon, Washington, and UCLA.
WyoAlum1987
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This 'great' offense isnt a patch on the ass of the offenses run by the Bramlet brothers, Jay Stoner, Wallwork (who actually was a stoner), Runyan, Corontzsos (sp), or (blast from the past) Phil Davis. Where are the Ryan McGuffey's, the Bramletts, the Wendlings, Procinski's that Glenn recruited..seems Wyoming's talent wont play for DC, why is that?
Dont get me wrong, I love this offense, and I love Brett Smith...but you guys need to quit bitchin at those of us who have been around a while, seen a few things, and wont drink your koolaid.
DC is still a sub .500 coach. HIs defenses are among the absolute worst (statistically) in Wyoming history. The teams we have beaten so far have been crap. We have given up a lot of points every game. These are facts.
Stubborn things.
Lets just hope things continue to get better and that this program wins some games. But lets NOT try to claim this team and this coach are the best in 20 years.
They arent
Dont get me wrong, I love this offense, and I love Brett Smith...but you guys need to quit bitchin at those of us who have been around a while, seen a few things, and wont drink your koolaid.
DC is still a sub .500 coach. HIs defenses are among the absolute worst (statistically) in Wyoming history. The teams we have beaten so far have been crap. We have given up a lot of points every game. These are facts.
Stubborn things.
Lets just hope things continue to get better and that this program wins some games. But lets NOT try to claim this team and this coach are the best in 20 years.
They arent
COS Cowboy
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WyoAlum1987 said:
Where are all those guys in the record book? Oh yeah, with the exception of Casey Bramlet in total passing yards, they're all behind Brett Smith, and Brett's not done yet. Oh and you forgot Welniak, who led an offense was definitely better than this one, but that's probably the only one.
As far as Wyoming talent goes, the Bramlets were not recruited by Glenn. I'd say DC is doing more the embrace and recruit them than anyone else. He started the tradition of a home grown Wyoming player carrying the Wyoming state flag on to the field on game days. Wasn't there a thread about a billboard in Casper trying to recruit an NC player? Seems to me
WyoAlum1987
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COS Cowboy said:
Leave it to some Colorado Poke to bring a knife to a damn gunfight....on Sheep week no less. :lol:
Name Team FROM TO GP Att Com % Yards TD INT TD% INT% RAT
Casey Bramlet Wyo 2001 2003 35 1321 743 56.2 9396 55 47 4.2 3.6 122.62
Tom Corontzos WYO 1988 1991 44 1066 579 54.3 7945 48 39 4.5 3.7 124.46
Jay Stoner WYO 1997 2000 40 1111 637 57.3 7668 37 39 3.3 3.5 119.28
Josh Wallwork WYO 1995 1996 22 729 449 61.6 6453 54 28 7.4 3.8 152.71
Joe Hughes WYO 1992 1993 23 744 424 57.0 5841 38 26 5.1 3.5 132.80
Brett Smith Wyo 2011 2012 23 745 458 61.5 5459 47 17 6.3 2.3 139.28
Corey Bramlet Wyo 2002 2005 29 707 417 59.0 5149 29 31 4.1 4.4 124.92
Scott Runyan WYO 1984 1987 44 675 319 47.3 4817 36 32 5.3 4.7 115.32
Craig Burnett WYO 1986 1987 22 667 378 56.7 4373 34 22 5.1 3.3 121.97
Phil Davis WYO 1978 1981 44 555 261 47.0 4123 23 25 4.1 4.5 114.10
and you are right, where the hell is Randy Welnak on this list?
DC embracing Wyoming talent? Now that is funny..
he's all about embracing JC talent, sure, but JC doesnt mean Jeffery City.
seriously, where are the Bramletts, McGuffey's Wendlings, etc? ...and how's that billboard working out for ol' DC?
DC has never given most of us the impression he even likes it in Wyoming, let alone that he's interested in our kids.
But maybe I just get the wrong impression from the guy.
kansasCowboy
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Your sure about that? 96 we were 1- deminsional. Extremely pass heavy. I think our averages throu the year were 365 passing and 127 rushing a game. That's 492 yards a game. This year we avg 310 passing and 209 rushing. That's a total of 519 a game.
COS Cowboy
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So I'm "Some Colorado Poke" now? Not that it matters, but I lived in Wyoming far longer than I've lived in Colorado, and I've been a season ticket holder the entire time I've lived in Colorado.
I could have sworn in all the graphics they put up during games that Brett was only behind Casey Bramlett in total yards. My mistake.
I remember all the careers of everyone in front of Brett. Casey was legit, so was Walwork (his stats are about the same as Smiths through the same number of games played.) Stoner was mediocre, so was Corontzos. At the time I remember thinking how ironic it was that such a mediocre QB (Corontzos) was going to have all the Wyoming passing records. He was part of some good teams but he wasn't much himself. Stoner was the same way. You never said we're going to win this game because of Stoner or because of Corontzos. It was more like if Stoner or Corontzos doesn't screw up we'll win.
I could have sworn in all the graphics they put up during games that Brett was only behind Casey Bramlett in total yards. My mistake.
I remember all the careers of everyone in front of Brett. Casey was legit, so was Walwork (his stats are about the same as Smiths through the same number of games played.) Stoner was mediocre, so was Corontzos. At the time I remember thinking how ironic it was that such a mediocre QB (Corontzos) was going to have all the Wyoming passing records. He was part of some good teams but he wasn't much himself. Stoner was the same way. You never said we're going to win this game because of Stoner or because of Corontzos. It was more like if Stoner or Corontzos doesn't screw up we'll win.
COS Cowboy
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Wyovanian said:
We'll see. As a passing threat, Walwork's stats are about the same and Brett, and Brett is way more of a running threat. This team has had only 1 game where they've scored less than 30 points. The '96 team had 4, 2 of which they lost. One of those was their WTF loss at SDSU just like this one did at Texas St. We'll see where this team ends up. Every game remaining is winnable, we haven't been able to say that in a long time, at least not with a perfect conference record. Of course every game is losable too, that's why we play them.
BeaverPoke
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How can you say the 96 offense was better when this season is the first fucking time in Wyoming Cowboy HISTROY that the Pokes have scored more than 30 points in their first 4 games?
The Pokes had 1 down game, then got back to 38 points.
It is literally the best offense we have had.
You are entitled to your own opinion but the fact is you are WRONG. Just wrong. You can't argue with the stats and facts.
The Pokes had 1 down game, then got back to 38 points.
It is literally the best offense we have had.
You are entitled to your own opinion but the fact is you are WRONG. Just wrong. You can't argue with the stats and facts.
WyoAlum1987
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Beaver,
I dont like to always be the one ridin herd on you
but
You are acting like a troll again. Rein it in son.
This is a good offense. It scores a lot of points
-but you dont need to be offensive to make a point.
We like to see the world through your Brown and Gold glasses son. We really do.
But its a mite disappointing when you become obnoxious as a bloated sheep on the front porch
Comprende?
I dont like to always be the one ridin herd on you
but
You are acting like a troll again. Rein it in son.
This is a good offense. It scores a lot of points
-but you dont need to be offensive to make a point.
We like to see the world through your Brown and Gold glasses son. We really do.
But its a mite disappointing when you become obnoxious as a bloated sheep on the front porch
Comprende?
BeaverPoke
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WyoAlum1987 said:
Troll again? Is that all you do is just call me a troll?
The first time you did, you were saying I was picking on people or whatever, and there wasn't one post where I called anyone out.
Now, I am pissed because our fan base is full of such idiots that want our coach fired after a win. Filled with people, who just call people trolls if someone disagrees with them. People who will absolutely not give credit to DC when it is due. People who constantly say I have low expectations over and over and sound like a broken record and don't actually know shit about football.
BeaverPoke
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Really Cuttslam? You are another dickhole fan that just comes to be a pissy fan as well.
So if Wyoming's offense is putting up more points in each game than we were in 96, explain to me how that offense was better?
Those were in the WAC days of no defense too, so shouldn't it have been easier?
So if Wyoming's offense is putting up more points in each game than we were in 96, explain to me how that offense was better?
Those were in the WAC days of no defense too, so shouldn't it have been easier?
WyoAlum1987
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Sorry if I offended COS,-not my intent at all.
I'm just sort of anti-Greenie during the best of times, and this week brings out the worst in me every year.
My wife served me granola today and I plumb near bit her head off. Dont like granola much anyway, but this week I really hate it. Got a good hemp rope that I just cant even touch, and I swerved into the other lane just to scare the crap out of a skinny guy on a bike yesterday.
Wont wear wool this week, and I swear I'll run over any sheep I see on the road twice...
So sorry if I was a bit touchy there....
and yeah, its amazing to see Corontzos on there and Josh not on there-there is definitely more to being a great qb than stats.(see Unitas-John, Starr, Bart, and Staubach, Roger)
Stoner-I liked, he was a gamer=but he also made some mistakes.
again,
sorry if I offended you (and sorry you have to live in Colorado)
I'm just sort of anti-Greenie during the best of times, and this week brings out the worst in me every year.
My wife served me granola today and I plumb near bit her head off. Dont like granola much anyway, but this week I really hate it. Got a good hemp rope that I just cant even touch, and I swerved into the other lane just to scare the crap out of a skinny guy on a bike yesterday.
Wont wear wool this week, and I swear I'll run over any sheep I see on the road twice...
So sorry if I was a bit touchy there....
and yeah, its amazing to see Corontzos on there and Josh not on there-there is definitely more to being a great qb than stats.(see Unitas-John, Starr, Bart, and Staubach, Roger)
Stoner-I liked, he was a gamer=but he also made some mistakes.
again,
sorry if I offended you (and sorry you have to live in Colorado)
