That is literally the only "defense" of Sawful that makes any sense. I hate it...but it does look like they have thier hands tied.
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Fire Tom Burman and Fire Jay Sawvel
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Brew_Poke
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It's just the cowardly American 4th Estate. Access is paramount to them, and it's kinda disgusting.
OrediggerPoke
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I’m becoming more convinced there is no such thing as freedom of the press.
Subcanis
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It’s a ham and cheese French toast, complete with powdered sugar and raspberry jam on the side.
Subcanis
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For the longest time I tried to believe he was just playing devil’s advocate, but he does seem to be swinging from those nuts these days.
I don't think Burman's expectations really matter one iota.
His expectations when he hired Sawvel were that Sawvel "not just continue what Bohl built, but take the next step forward". Well, he sure as hell hasn't done that and yet there were absolutely no repercussions.
He then goes on to say that he expects us to win a conference championship next year but admits that, realistically, that probably won't be the case.
The things he was saying in that article were almost laughable. Just complete nonsense.
THANK YOU - now we're just fed the "well, it's not really his fault, it's Bohl's fault, the cupboard was bare"... this is a sickness
ragtimejoe1
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PBJ's responses were terrible. Summarizing from my perspective and reading.
"I don't give a shit about fans' opinions, and, oh yeah, we'd lose players if I were fired."
Oh yeah? I'll bet when fans don't show up or open their wallets, you'll start caring what they think and you won 4 games against an absolute shit schedule. I don't think anybody is worrying about losing anyone.
Better answer: "I just appreciate that they continued to show up and support our guys through a tough year. We have a great fanbase. I understand their frustrations and they deserve better results. I thank the university for the opportunity to right the ship and show the fans what we can do. I won't address last season anymore and will focus entirely on getting things rolling to put together a season our players, coaches, university, and fans can be proud of."
"I don't give a shit about fans' opinions, and, oh yeah, we'd lose players if I were fired."
Oh yeah? I'll bet when fans don't show up or open their wallets, you'll start caring what they think and you won 4 games against an absolute shit schedule. I don't think anybody is worrying about losing anyone.
Better answer: "I just appreciate that they continued to show up and support our guys through a tough year. We have a great fanbase. I understand their frustrations and they deserve better results. I thank the university for the opportunity to right the ship and show the fans what we can do. I won't address last season anymore and will focus entirely on getting things rolling to put together a season our players, coaches, university, and fans can be proud of."
rocket city poke
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yes, the money these people are making and the lack of results . . .
I keep hearing that Tom Burman is getting paid too much from some posters. I looked it up and in 2022 he had the lowest base salary in the MW. I wonder if we get a new AD if we are going to save any money at all.
It looks like we get what we pay for.
1. Utah State's John Hartwell — $542,500 (10-year deal runs through Dec. 31, 2024; total value of $4,965,000; potential bonuses up to $40,000 annually)
2. Nevada's Stephanie Rempe— $505,000 (five-year deal runs through June 30, 2027; total value of $2,600,000; potential bonuses up to $90,000 annually)
3. New Mexico's Eddie Nuñez — $432,000 (five-year deal runs through June 30, 2025; total value of $2,183,750; potential bonuses up to $105,000 annually)
4. UNLV's Erick Harper— $420,000 (five-year deal runs through June 30, 2026; total value of $2,145,000; potential bonuses up to $117,500 annually)
5. Boise State'sJeramiah Dickey— $418,200 (five-year deal runs throughDec. 31, 2025; total value of $2,173,656; potential bonuses up to $125,000 annually)
6. Colorado State's Joe Parker— $400,000 (five-year deal runs through Dec. 31, 2022; total value of $2,000,000; unknown bonuses — figures per this story)
7. San Jose State's Jeff Konya — $366,084 (five-year deal runs through July 11, 2026; total value of $1,830,420; potential bonuses up to $146,433.60 annually)
8. San Diego State's John David Wicker — $340,000 (five-year deal that ended June 30, 2021; total value of $2,038,000; potential bonuses up to $80,000 annually)
9. Fresno State's Terry Tumey— $320,000 (five-year deal runs through July 31, 2023; total value of $1,600,000; potential bonuses up to $94,500 annually)
10. Wyoming's Tom Burman — $278,520 (six-year deal runs through June 30, 2025; total value of $1,903,668; potential bonuses up to $150,000 annually)
It looks like we get what we pay for.
1. Utah State's John Hartwell — $542,500 (10-year deal runs through Dec. 31, 2024; total value of $4,965,000; potential bonuses up to $40,000 annually)
2. Nevada's Stephanie Rempe— $505,000 (five-year deal runs through June 30, 2027; total value of $2,600,000; potential bonuses up to $90,000 annually)
3. New Mexico's Eddie Nuñez — $432,000 (five-year deal runs through June 30, 2025; total value of $2,183,750; potential bonuses up to $105,000 annually)
4. UNLV's Erick Harper— $420,000 (five-year deal runs through June 30, 2026; total value of $2,145,000; potential bonuses up to $117,500 annually)
5. Boise State'sJeramiah Dickey— $418,200 (five-year deal runs throughDec. 31, 2025; total value of $2,173,656; potential bonuses up to $125,000 annually)
6. Colorado State's Joe Parker— $400,000 (five-year deal runs through Dec. 31, 2022; total value of $2,000,000; unknown bonuses — figures per this story)
7. San Jose State's Jeff Konya — $366,084 (five-year deal runs through July 11, 2026; total value of $1,830,420; potential bonuses up to $146,433.60 annually)
8. San Diego State's John David Wicker — $340,000 (five-year deal that ended June 30, 2021; total value of $2,038,000; potential bonuses up to $80,000 annually)
9. Fresno State's Terry Tumey— $320,000 (five-year deal runs through July 31, 2023; total value of $1,600,000; potential bonuses up to $94,500 annually)
10. Wyoming's Tom Burman — $278,520 (six-year deal runs through June 30, 2025; total value of $1,903,668; potential bonuses up to $150,000 annually)
ragtimejoe1
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https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/how-much-every-mountain-west-athletic-director-will-make-in-2022-23.
Not sure if it is credible or not.
ragtimejoe1
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I think that is probably base only. Here is contract details: https://www.wyomingnews.com/wyospor...cle_d996ccd0-d29e-4639-b5ae-975b8f293a0b.html
wow...makes me wonder if those other AD's numbers are "base only" with incentives.
Wyolie Coyote
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Why are you worried about saving money? Getting rid of TB does not have anything to do with money, it is all about athletic success. He is at the bottom of any list when evaluated upon athletic success and acheivements. Worst AD in the country.
rocket city poke
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There is this too. Which really says why is Wyoming paying him this much even? I'm certain ANYBODY could produce similar results and for $555k somebody else could do better:
Which schools have brought the Mountain West the most value under current membership?
I received a message today asking me for a link to my story about which Mountain West members have contributed the most money to the conference via NCAA Tournam
nevadasportsnet.com
I agree. I was just stating that I keep hearing on this board that we will save money if we get rid of Burman and hire someone else with a lower salary. I don't think that is what it is going to take to have athletic success. I think we will have to spend more if we want a decent AD in today's market or we will always suck moving forward.
That is very telling. It makes me wonder what those numbers look like in the 90's in the WAC. Have we always been this bad compared to our conference? I don't remember us being this bad historically but I was a kid in the 90's so my brown and gold glasses were pretty thick and I didn't pay any attention to any other team's success.There is this too. Which really says why is Wyoming paying him this much even? I'm certain ANYBODY could produce similar results and for $555k somebody else could do better:
Which schools have brought the Mountain West the most value under current membership?
I received a message today asking me for a link to my story about which Mountain West members have contributed the most money to the conference via NCAA Tournam
