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Fire Bohl!
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Yabadabadoo
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On the 'hot seat?' Please stop! Bohl isn't even anywhere near a moderately warm seat for crying out loud.
Douglaspoke
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Hot seat..you gotta be kidding. Give me a break!! What did you think he was going to win 8 games this year , winning even 6 was a stretch and yes we could win just a very few this year. The conversation was pretty clear last year that the 2014 was going to be tough, but that 2015 could be much worse. Did we all forget that. This is going to take 3 to 5 more years from this year. Our first break out season will probably be 2017 and that might only be 6 or 7 wins. If Bohl doesn't get this done, you may very well look at some dramatic changes and not for coaches in the future. We better all get behind him, because the alternative will not be very pretty at all. This discussion on this topic after 1 game in the second year is quite frankly incredibly stupid.
ragtimejoe1
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Bohl isn't even on a seat at all. He rightfully has at minimum this year +2; you simply can't fully evaluate the job until then.
In the meantime, can you bring up concerns? Sure. There is no guarantee Bohl will or will not be successful. Pointing out the good and the bad is part of watching this building process. There isn't 1 person on here that KNOWS exactly how this will go. We could be a NY6 team in 3.5 years or in the middle of searching for our next savior that everyone guarantees will be the one to turn WYO around (or we could be anywhere in between).
For his interview, that was definitely a different Bohl. For some reason, I get the feeling that there was Kool-Aid a plenty around the WYO program and reality bitched slapped Cowboy Tough upside the head. Now we'll see what kind of coaching staff we have. They can't fix youth, but they can fix execution, discipline, and try.
In the meantime, can you bring up concerns? Sure. There is no guarantee Bohl will or will not be successful. Pointing out the good and the bad is part of watching this building process. There isn't 1 person on here that KNOWS exactly how this will go. We could be a NY6 team in 3.5 years or in the middle of searching for our next savior that everyone guarantees will be the one to turn WYO around (or we could be anywhere in between).
For his interview, that was definitely a different Bohl. For some reason, I get the feeling that there was Kool-Aid a plenty around the WYO program and reality bitched slapped Cowboy Tough upside the head. Now we'll see what kind of coaching staff we have. They can't fix youth, but they can fix execution, discipline, and try.
kansasCowboy
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Douglaspoke said:
Yes, almost everyone forgets. It's," We suck and need to be better by next year." When we show slight progression (not necessarily wins, but recruiting) several begin to rethink things and thinkwe are to the point of being amazingly better than we were the year before and expect no less than 6 wins or we are a failure at life and the ground has fallen out beneath them.
These people want from zero to sixty in NOW! Reality is it isn't going to happen that way. We have to run the course and get through 6.5 seconds to get to our end result.
And for those that think this is a bad loss just becuase they were FCS. Get over it! Division l college football is college football. Them beating us is no different then us going and beating Ole Miss or Tenn.
they put their pants on one leg at a time just like us.
Fans can pencil in gimme wins all they want. But if one team doesn't show up the results speaks for itself.
Yes, I coach HS. I also coach a team in Class 4, and we are good. We had a non conf game against a middle of the pack Class 2 team. Basically the classification just before you drop to 8man. Their coaches had them ready. They were going to be on the radio (which they never had the chance to be before). They were pumped up to show their stuff against us. We were ready. So I thought. I had told them the same thing. That it didn't matter how big the school, how many players were dressed, these guys play football just like them. Don't take them for granted.
They beat our pants in the first half, 20-0. I had the best offense in the state. A good QB and the best RB in the state. Our OL knew their assignments and were decent size themselves. At half you could see the shock on their faces. They had been punched in the mouth by what their friends, family and townfolk had told them was a "nobody". We tried to rally, but never got within two Tds of them and lost. This was that teams chance to be on "the big stage". And they took it.
It happens. Hence the pageantry. That team wanted it more than us. It was their chance to be world beaters that night. And they went out and got the job done.
Same thing applies here with ND-WYO. They wanted their first FBS win. They came out and punched us in the mouth and got the job done. Kudos to them.
Now we learn from the mistakes made and keep on trucking. Zero to sixty... We're still taking off.
I know he isn't on a hot seat or any type of seat. That would take a University admin that actually cares about sports ( which we don't have). Your delusional if you think there is any valid reason why a D1 school should lose like that to an fcs school unless there is something critically wrong with the program.
JimmyDimes
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Or an idiot....you don't fire guys after one year. Especially when EVERYONE knows this was going to be a rebuilding project.marcuswyo said:
SnowyRange
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It's quite the opposite.
Only a university that didn't care about sports would put a coach on "the hot seat" for a terrible loss in the first game of his second season.
laxwyo said:
Duh. If I was in his position I would be acting the same damn way. Call it embarrassed. Call it deserving to be fired. Whatever. He knows how fucking bad this loss was. At the same time, I don't think he could win another game this year and his job is safe.
We know we have a few years of building. It may be much more painful than originally imagined.
You are right you can't fire him this year or no coach would ever come here again. You could start pushing for an AD change though. The disturbing issue is an fcs 1st time HC coach had built a better program than Bohl. If anything Bohl's program has regressed from last year. Some of that could be his short recruiting class, but Bohl chose to stay with NDSU for their playoffs. That's on him. There are a lot of Bohl apologists on this board for the shittiest loss in program history.
What I think this shows more than anything is the administration needs to get off their asses and start getting some more cash in there for assistants and position coaches.
We go out and try to hire the best head coach we can - then when he tries to bring in some of the staff he wants - he can't afford them and has to go find someone who is young, eager, and poor and hope it works out. We should have cleared out the NDSU coaching offices with nobody left behind.
We go out and try to hire the best head coach we can - then when he tries to bring in some of the staff he wants - he can't afford them and has to go find someone who is young, eager, and poor and hope it works out. We should have cleared out the NDSU coaching offices with nobody left behind.
Firing Bohl is over the top. He deserves time to try to fix what DC built... if you can call it that. To some extent, he has chased older players away from the program. He has also moved multiple guys from safety to linebacker. It's his own fault this team is as young and inexperienced at certain positions. This loss is entirely on Bohl's shoulders. I believe he can turn things around with time, but I'm not going to coat a turd in sugar and say it's an enjoyable meal. This is the darkest moment in Cowboy football history and I think it's due to Bohl's arrogance of his own abilities. Hopefully he'll enjoy a slice of humble pie and become a better coach.
SDPokeFan
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kansasCowboy said:
Except for they aren't in the same division as us. Whereas we were in the same division as Tennessee and Ole Miss. It's actually quite different. That and Wyoming can offer 30-something more scholarships than UND. But I gave up on you writing an intelligent post two years ago.
JimmyDimes
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FCS teams beat FBS teams all the time. At least we're not Washington State....they lost to an FCS team and it is Mike Leach's 3rd or 4th year. Wyoming is in rebuilding mode.....played more true freshman than seniors on Saturday.SDPokeFan said:
