Fire Bohl!

[BeaverPoke]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

Not only is this ridiculous, but it's a statement that reeks of both immaturity and a complete lack of understanding of the way that the world works - and the way high-level football works.

This isn't 11-12 year old kids in a neighborhood at the end of the street deciding to change the captain of the youth-street baseball team who plays a few other neighborhood teams each day during the summertime and who changes their minds daily on a whim or because 'Jimmy' is more popular this day than 'Billy'.


So, Tom Burman is supposed to walk into Craig Bohl's office today and after one season and one game say; 'well, sorry Craig, but that loss Saturday has made me re-think my entire decision to bring you here. I'm making a change, you're fired, see you later."

This is the world of Division 1 CFB, run by adults, who have a bit more long-term thinking, who are confident in their plans, who understand the 'process', who don't cave, walk away, give up, and concede total failure after one disappointing football game.

Someone mentioned on another thread that it strikes him that many of the postings after the ND loss appears to be coming from 5 year old's. I disagree. As the father of one 5 year old I can say that mine has a sense of understanding and reason to a degree. I find some of these postings, theories, and those calling for an outright firing of a head coach with the pedigree of Craig Bohl to simply be, in a word; Witless.

You think Burman or anyone in our athletic department understand the process of building a winner in football?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

[fromolwyoming]

Plus, Virginia Tech's HC wasn't fired. Rocky Long wasn't fired. Both went on to have successful seasons. I'm not calling for anyone's head, yet anyway.

What I will say, is the d-line needs to get pressure on the QB during passing downs and the offense needs to actually be an offense for all 4 quarters. And to stop doing something if it isn't working and switch it up.

 

[Yabadabadoo]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

Not only is this ridiculous, but it's a statement that reeks of both immaturity and a complete lack of understanding of the way that the world works - and the way high-level football works.

This isn't 11-12 year old kids in a neighborhood at the end of the street deciding to change the captain of the youth-street baseball team who plays a few other neighborhood teams each day during the summertime and who changes their minds daily on a whim or because 'Jimmy' is more popular this day than 'Billy'.


So, Tom Burman is supposed to walk into Craig Bohl's office today and after one season and one game say; 'well, sorry Craig, but that loss Saturday has made me re-think my entire decision to bring you here. I'm making a change, you're fired, see you later."

This is the world of Division 1 CFB, run by adults, who have a bit more long-term thinking, who are confident in their plans, who understand the 'process', who don't cave, walk away, give up, and concede total failure after one disappointing football game.

Someone mentioned on another thread that it strikes him that many of the postings after the ND loss appears to be coming from 5 year old's. I disagree. As the father of one 5 year old I can say that mine has a sense of understanding and reason to a degree. I find some of these postings, theories, and those calling for an outright firing of a head coach with the pedigree of Craig Bohl to simply be, in a word; Witless.

You think Burman or anyone in our athletic department understand the process of building a winner in football?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Given his pedigree, his experience, and the respect he has around the game, yes, it is clear that Craig Bohl knows a thing or two about how to go ahead and build a winning college football program.

As to your presumption about our athletic department, I gather that you believe Tom Burman has a clue about basketball, but football...not so much?

 

[BeaverPoke]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

Not only is this ridiculous, but it's a statement that reeks of both immaturity and a complete lack of understanding of the way that the world works - and the way high-level football works.

This isn't 11-12 year old kids in a neighborhood at the end of the street deciding to change the captain of the youth-street baseball team who plays a few other neighborhood teams each day during the summertime and who changes their minds daily on a whim or because 'Jimmy' is more popular this day than 'Billy'.


So, Tom Burman is supposed to walk into Craig Bohl's office today and after one season and one game say; 'well, sorry Craig, but that loss Saturday has made me re-think my entire decision to bring you here. I'm making a change, you're fired, see you later."

This is the world of Division 1 CFB, run by adults, who have a bit more long-term thinking, who are confident in their plans, who understand the 'process', who don't cave, walk away, give up, and concede total failure after one disappointing football game.

Someone mentioned on another thread that it strikes him that many of the postings after the ND loss appears to be coming from 5 year old's. I disagree. As the father of one 5 year old I can say that mine has a sense of understanding and reason to a degree. I find some of these postings, theories, and those calling for an outright firing of a head coach with the pedigree of Craig Bohl to simply be, in a word; Witless.

You think Burman or anyone in our athletic department understand the process of building a winner in football?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Given his pedigree, his experience, and the respect he has around the game, yes, it is clear that Craig Bohl knows a thing or two about how to go ahead and build a winning college football program.

As to your presumption about our athletic department, I gather that you believe Tom Burman has a clue about basketball, but football...not so much?

I believe he lucked out in hoops with Larry Shyatt. Shyatt wanted to come here.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

Not only is this ridiculous, but it's a statement that reeks of both immaturity and a complete lack of understanding of the way that the world works - and the way high-level football works.

This isn't 11-12 year old kids in a neighborhood at the end of the street deciding to change the captain of the youth-street baseball team who plays a few other neighborhood teams each day during the summertime and who changes their minds daily on a whim or because 'Jimmy' is more popular this day than 'Billy'.


So, Tom Burman is supposed to walk into Craig Bohl's office today and after one season and one game say; 'well, sorry Craig, but that loss Saturday has made me re-think my entire decision to bring you here. I'm making a change, you're fired, see you later."

This is the world of Division 1 CFB, run by adults, who have a bit more long-term thinking, who are confident in their plans, who understand the 'process', who don't cave, walk away, give up, and concede total failure after one disappointing football game.

Someone mentioned on another thread that it strikes him that many of the postings after the ND loss appears to be coming from 5 year old's. I disagree. As the father of one 5 year old I can say that mine has a sense of understanding and reason to a degree. I find some of these postings, theories, and those calling for an outright firing of a head coach with the pedigree of Craig Bohl to simply be, in a word; Witless.

You think Burman or anyone in our athletic department understand the process of building a winner in football?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Given his pedigree, his experience, and the respect he has around the game, yes, it is clear that Craig Bohl knows a thing or two about how to go ahead and build a winning college football program.

As to your presumption about our athletic department, I gather that you believe Tom Burman has a clue about basketball, but football...not so much?

I believe he lucked out in hoops with Larry Shyatt. Shyatt wanted to come here.

Sometimes its better to be lucky than good. Its insane to me all the BS Wyoming fans want to heap on the Athletic Department (Burman). "Stupid moron Burman hired CDC, FIRE HIM!! He's incompetent." "Burman hired Shyatt, he's a moron who got lucky. He had nothing to do with hit. Shyatt wanted to come here and just started moving his things into the AA offices." Give me a break.

 

[Yabadabadoo]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

Not only is this ridiculous, but it's a statement that reeks of both immaturity and a complete lack of understanding of the way that the world works - and the way high-level football works.

This isn't 11-12 year old kids in a neighborhood at the end of the street deciding to change the captain of the youth-street baseball team who plays a few other neighborhood teams each day during the summertime and who changes their minds daily on a whim or because 'Jimmy' is more popular this day than 'Billy'.


So, Tom Burman is supposed to walk into Craig Bohl's office today and after one season and one game say; 'well, sorry Craig, but that loss Saturday has made me re-think my entire decision to bring you here. I'm making a change, you're fired, see you later."

This is the world of Division 1 CFB, run by adults, who have a bit more long-term thinking, who are confident in their plans, who understand the 'process', who don't cave, walk away, give up, and concede total failure after one disappointing football game.

Someone mentioned on another thread that it strikes him that many of the postings after the ND loss appears to be coming from 5 year old's. I disagree. As the father of one 5 year old I can say that mine has a sense of understanding and reason to a degree. I find some of these postings, theories, and those calling for an outright firing of a head coach with the pedigree of Craig Bohl to simply be, in a word; Witless.

You think Burman or anyone in our athletic department understand the process of building a winner in football?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Given his pedigree, his experience, and the respect he has around the game, yes, it is clear that Craig Bohl knows a thing or two about how to go ahead and build a winning college football program.

As to your presumption about our athletic department, I gather that you believe Tom Burman has a clue about basketball, but football...not so much?

I believe he lucked out in hoops with Larry Shyatt. Shyatt wanted to come here.

Our basketball team isn't too bad, not great, not awful, but a program that wins 20+ games each year because it plays a less than stellar schedule each season, and had an inspiring and memorable run last season getting to the dance for Shyatt's first ever time as a HC. Up until last season we were marching in that CBI parade for a few years...in other words; mediocrity.

That said, I like Shyatt, he has his drawbacks of which I have mentioned previously in the basketball forum...make no mistake, we ain't lighting the world on fire the last few seasons with Shyatt's basketball teams. We've treaded water - at best.

Addendum: If not for the unexpected ant completely out of the blue conference run in tournament play last season then Wyoming is headed back to the CBI. Again. In summation, last year's basketball season looked and felt much better than it was in reality. Overall since he's been back, Shyatt's tenure has been mostly mediocre if we're to be honest.

 

[seattlecowboy]

I can't be mad at Burman because you have to give credit where credit is due. He seems to have good basketball coaches for both the men's and women's teams. The track team seems to be pretty good and so is the wrestling team. It looks like the women's volleyball team is going to be good this year as well. The women's tennis team did well last year also.

It seems for some reason the only sports we are having the most trouble with is the one that brings in the most money . Football. So maybe it is the way the college football landscape is nowadays. Who knows. Still hoping Bohl is the guy.

 

[Cosmic Cowboy]

:twocents: here...I think threads like this are actually a healthy part of the process. Wyoming fans obviously need a place to vent, hell you guys should get 4 or 5 psychotherapy sessions included when you buy a ticket into the war right now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: but since that ain't happening all we got is each other right? So for laughs, pure frustration, entertainment, and actual opinion this is all you get for free. This board is awesome for all those things. Hopefully we all don't hate each other too much as more brains get twisted as these sick losses keep adding up.

I think the players and coaches need to see a thread like this too. They need to understand how tortured our fanbase is at this point. They need to get FIRED UP! They just got OWNED by a nobody at home. Our fans should be going :tickedoff: I mean at this point UW football is pure comedy for me. I haven't cared for about 10 years plus. My freshman year at UW was Vic Koenning's last season and it looked like this

Needless to say that was the starting point then into Joe Glenn etc and pretty soon I had better things to do. Goddamn even when the Pokes made bowls they never looked that good. Did anyone really believe we were top 4 or 5 in conference unless it was a severe down year in the MWC. Did we ever really look like a top 50 product? How come there has always been one thing majorly wrong in a facet of UW's game? At least one of the big 3 of offense, defense, and special teams is usually so bad it can cost us a game alone. We can't really ever even get 2 of those things to ok level usually, let alone above average or great. Now we get yet ANOTHER loss like this at HOME? Yep all we got is each other. Take care and watch those flames boys :fuel: :flame: :flame: :flame:

 

[kansasCowboy]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

I understand. But, then shouldn't Snyder be fired from Kansas State for losing to NDSU? That year, KSU went 8-5 and beat Michigan in a bowl game. (No, I'm not expecting UND to go unbeaten and UW to win 8 games or more.)

I think sometimes losing to an FCS school is escusable. I'm hoping that we find out that both UW and UND come out of with much better records than expected. Of course, I wear both brown and gold/green and white glasses.

Okay, I can buy that sometimes it can be excusable, but most times it should not be.

The year the Beavers lost to EWU, they were ranked #25 in the country. They ended up winning their next 6 games and getting back into the Top 25 at 6-1, before the Beavs stumbled a little bit towards the end of the season.

But at the end of the season, the Beavers lost a game they shouldn't have, and it hurts on the win total.

I don't expect Wyo to turn it around the way the Beavs or the way K-State did though. There is no way in hell this game should be excusable. The Cal Poly loss is more excusable because we didn't have our starting QB.

We just laid a fricking egg against ND. That is not okay in any way.

So the. You expect it to be like 2011 when OSU lost to a bottom feeder Sacra St. Team and fumbled to a 3-9 season then?

 

[WyoBrandX]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

Not only is this ridiculous, but it's a statement that reeks of both immaturity and a complete lack of understanding of the way that the world works - and the way high-level football works.

This isn't 11-12 year old kids in a neighborhood at the end of the street deciding to change the captain of the youth-street baseball team who plays a few other neighborhood teams each day during the summertime and who changes their minds daily on a whim or because 'Jimmy' is more popular this day than 'Billy'.


So, Tom Burman is supposed to walk into Craig Bohl's office today and after one season and one game say; 'well, sorry Craig, but that loss Saturday has made me re-think my entire decision to bring you here. I'm making a change, you're fired, see you later."

This is the world of Division 1 CFB, run by adults, who have a bit more long-term thinking, who are confident in their plans, who understand the 'process', who don't cave, walk away, give up, and concede total failure after one disappointing football game.

Someone mentioned on another thread that it strikes him that many of the postings after the ND loss appears to be coming from 5 year old's. I disagree. As the father of one 5 year old I can say that mine has a sense of understanding and reason to a degree. I find some of these postings, theories, and those calling for an outright firing of a head coach with the pedigree of Craig Bohl to simply be, in a word; Witless.

You think Burman or anyone in our athletic department understand the process of building a winner in football?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Given his pedigree, his experience, and the respect he has around the game, yes, it is clear that Craig Bohl knows a thing or two about how to go ahead and build a winning college football program.

As to your presumption about our athletic department, I gather that you believe Tom Burman has a clue about basketball, but football...not so much?

I was struggling with this the other day until I realized that Tom Burman has only hired two Football Coaches - Christensen and Bohl.

On the flip side, and hindsight is 20-20, but he might have fired Joe Glenn a bit early given the resources he struck up for Christensen. Some of that money could have went along ways in getting some good Offensive assistants in. I didn't think about this until I read the other day in a Joe Glenn interview about how he was a quarterback away from getting the team he wanted together. He could never find a quarterback. the 2007-2008 year was rough on Glenn, but looking at some of the 2009 year, he had some talent that was coming back up the stack.

Keep Bohl. Fire Burman.

 

[Yabadabadoo]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

Not only is this ridiculous, but it's a statement that reeks of both immaturity and a complete lack of understanding of the way that the world works - and the way high-level football works.

This isn't 11-12 year old kids in a neighborhood at the end of the street deciding to change the captain of the youth-street baseball team who plays a few other neighborhood teams each day during the summertime and who changes their minds daily on a whim or because 'Jimmy' is more popular this day than 'Billy'.


So, Tom Burman is supposed to walk into Craig Bohl's office today and after one season and one game say; 'well, sorry Craig, but that loss Saturday has made me re-think my entire decision to bring you here. I'm making a change, you're fired, see you later."

This is the world of Division 1 CFB, run by adults, who have a bit more long-term thinking, who are confident in their plans, who understand the 'process', who don't cave, walk away, give up, and concede total failure after one disappointing football game.

Someone mentioned on another thread that it strikes him that many of the postings after the ND loss appears to be coming from 5 year old's. I disagree. As the father of one 5 year old I can say that mine has a sense of understanding and reason to a degree. I find some of these postings, theories, and those calling for an outright firing of a head coach with the pedigree of Craig Bohl to simply be, in a word; Witless.

You think Burman or anyone in our athletic department understand the process of building a winner in football?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Given his pedigree, his experience, and the respect he has around the game, yes, it is clear that Craig Bohl knows a thing or two about how to go ahead and build a winning college football program.

As to your presumption about our athletic department, I gather that you believe Tom Burman has a clue about basketball, but football...not so much?

I was struggling with this the other day until I realized that Tom Burman has only hired two Football Coaches - Christensen and Bohl.

On the flip side, and hindsight is 20-20, but he might have fired Joe Glenn a bit early given the resources he struck up for Christensen. Some of that money could have went along ways in getting some good Offensive assistants in. I didn't think about this until I read the other day in a Joe Glenn interview about how he was a quarterback away from getting the team he wanted together. He could never find a quarterback. the 2007-2008 year was rough on Glenn, but looking at some of the 2009 year, he had some talent that was coming back up the stack.

Keep Bohl. Fire Burman.

I liked Glenn and I thought he should have been given one more season to get it right.

 

[BeaverPoke]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

I understand. But, then shouldn't Snyder be fired from Kansas State for losing to NDSU? That year, KSU went 8-5 and beat Michigan in a bowl game. (No, I'm not expecting UND to go unbeaten and UW to win 8 games or more.)

I think sometimes losing to an FCS school is escusable. I'm hoping that we find out that both UW and UND come out of with much better records than expected. Of course, I wear both brown and gold/green and white glasses.

Okay, I can buy that sometimes it can be excusable, but most times it should not be.

The year the Beavers lost to EWU, they were ranked #25 in the country. They ended up winning their next 6 games and getting back into the Top 25 at 6-1, before the Beavs stumbled a little bit towards the end of the season.

But at the end of the season, the Beavers lost a game they shouldn't have, and it hurts on the win total.

I don't expect Wyo to turn it around the way the Beavs or the way K-State did though. There is no way in hell this game should be excusable. The Cal Poly loss is more excusable because we didn't have our starting QB.

We just laid a fricking egg against ND. That is not okay in any way.

So the. You expect it to be like 2011 when OSU lost to a bottom feeder Sacra St. Team and fumbled to a 3-9 season then?

Exactly, but even worse, considering we don't have a future 3rd round NFL pick starting at QB as a freshman.
Of course maybe we do, and the ND loss is what gets him starting.

OS lost to Sac. St. and then Riley pulled the senior QB Ryan Katz for freshman Sean Mannion.
Figured if the season was lost, better start building for next season. And it helped because the Beavers started out hot in 2012 (like 7-0).

A lot of my frustrations are definitely a bit of over-reaction but also a lot of it is how I will feel throughout the week.

Let's pull Coffman and play the freshman QB. The season is lost, might as well build for next year.

 

[Yabadabadoo]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

I understand. But, then shouldn't Snyder be fired from Kansas State for losing to NDSU? That year, KSU went 8-5 and beat Michigan in a bowl game. (No, I'm not expecting UND to go unbeaten and UW to win 8 games or more.)

I think sometimes losing to an FCS school is escusable. I'm hoping that we find out that both UW and UND come out of with much better records than expected. Of course, I wear both brown and gold/green and white glasses.

Okay, I can buy that sometimes it can be excusable, but most times it should not be.

The year the Beavers lost to EWU, they were ranked #25 in the country. They ended up winning their next 6 games and getting back into the Top 25 at 6-1, before the Beavs stumbled a little bit towards the end of the season.

But at the end of the season, the Beavers lost a game they shouldn't have, and it hurts on the win total.

I don't expect Wyo to turn it around the way the Beavs or the way K-State did though. There is no way in hell this game should be excusable. The Cal Poly loss is more excusable because we didn't have our starting QB.

We just laid a fricking egg against ND. That is not okay in any way.

So the. You expect it to be like 2011 when OSU lost to a bottom feeder Sacra St. Team and fumbled to a 3-9 season then?

Exactly, but even worse, considering we don't have a future 3rd round NFL pick starting at QB as a freshman.
Of course maybe we do, and the ND loss is what gets him starting.

OS lost to Sac. St. and then Riley pulled the senior QB Ryan Katz for freshman Sean Mannion.
Figured if the season was lost, better start building for next season. And it helped because the Beavers started out hot in 2012 (like 7-0).

A lot of my frustrations are definitely a bit of over-reaction but also a lot of it is how I will feel throughout the week.

Let's pull Coffman and play the freshman QB. The season is lost, might as well build for next year.

Good to see your blood pressure coming down a bit :thumb:

 

[johnywyo]

My measured expectation does not include psycho-babble, I'm not bi-polar and don't sniff glue. So, when the hire for Bohl was made against great odds (in my evaluation) I was more hopeful than not that we have the right Coach for changing the direction of the dumpster fire that is and was Cowboy football. Logically all we can hope for in year 2 of a process that may take up to 5 years is improvement. The first order of business in correcting what happened last Saturday with attention to detail and eliminate the mistakes. Reality says when you play as many first and second year players that may be stepping on the field for their first in game experience results in glaring miscues. I was surprised listening to the game how ineffective our D-line was. In fairness to the Defensive side of the ball was the total lack of ball control & first down conversions from the Offense. We regressed to what happened during Christensens latter games as a HC where we left our D exposed for large periods of time. Our strength should be our running game, however with no daylight and constricted lanes our duo accounted for 29 net yards. This area particularly is of big concern. Cam, like Colby got hammered from the sounds of things, we are implementing a ball control offense and yet Cam was forced to throw the ball way too much. Basketball harmony can happen with 3 decent pieces, football on the other hand has so many working parts and positional depth pieces its like apples and asparagus- they aren't even comparable from an analytical or athletic perspective. This could end up being a very difficult year for Cowboy football. Yet, with Bohl there will be no excuses, he will work with the knowledge he's acquired over a long and successful career. He's doing all the right things sans winning, something this fan base wants at an unmercifully expectant level. As they say in life it may get way worse before it gets measurably better. So, that is my pep talk for today, not much sunshine or fandom expressed. God Bless this team, they need it.

 

[kansasCowboy]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

I understand. But, then shouldn't Snyder be fired from Kansas State for losing to NDSU? That year, KSU went 8-5 and beat Michigan in a bowl game. (No, I'm not expecting UND to go unbeaten and UW to win 8 games or more.)

I think sometimes losing to an FCS school is escusable. I'm hoping that we find out that both UW and UND come out of with much better records than expected. Of course, I wear both brown and gold/green and white glasses.

Okay, I can buy that sometimes it can be excusable, but most times it should not be.

The year the Beavers lost to EWU, they were ranked #25 in the country. They ended up winning their next 6 games and getting back into the Top 25 at 6-1, before the Beavs stumbled a little bit towards the end of the season.

But at the end of the season, the Beavers lost a game they shouldn't have, and it hurts on the win total.

I don't expect Wyo to turn it around the way the Beavs or the way K-State did though. There is no way in hell this game should be excusable. The Cal Poly loss is more excusable because we didn't have our starting QB.

We just laid a fricking egg against ND. That is not okay in any way.

So the. You expect it to be like 2011 when OSU lost to a bottom feeder Sacra St. Team and fumbled to a 3-9 season then?

Exactly, but even worse, considering we don't have a future 3rd round NFL pick starting at QB as a freshman.
Of course maybe we do, and the ND loss is what gets him starting.

OS lost to Sac. St. and then Riley pulled the senior QB Ryan Katz for freshman Sean Mannion.
Figured if the season was lost, better start building for next season. And it helped because the Beavers started out hot in 2012 (like 7-0).

A lot of my frustrations are definitely a bit of over-reaction but also a lot of it is how I will feel throughout the week.

Let's pull Coffman and play the freshman QB. The season is lost, might as well build for next year.

Did they pull Mannion when #25 OSU lost to EWU a few years back?

 

[BeaverPoke]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

I understand. But, then shouldn't Snyder be fired from Kansas State for losing to NDSU? That year, KSU went 8-5 and beat Michigan in a bowl game. (No, I'm not expecting UND to go unbeaten and UW to win 8 games or more.)

I think sometimes losing to an FCS school is escusable. I'm hoping that we find out that both UW and UND come out of with much better records than expected. Of course, I wear both brown and gold/green and white glasses.

Okay, I can buy that sometimes it can be excusable, but most times it should not be.

The year the Beavers lost to EWU, they were ranked #25 in the country. They ended up winning their next 6 games and getting back into the Top 25 at 6-1, before the Beavs stumbled a little bit towards the end of the season.

But at the end of the season, the Beavers lost a game they shouldn't have, and it hurts on the win total.

I don't expect Wyo to turn it around the way the Beavs or the way K-State did though. There is no way in hell this game should be excusable. The Cal Poly loss is more excusable because we didn't have our starting QB.

We just laid a fricking egg against ND. That is not okay in any way.

So the. You expect it to be like 2011 when OSU lost to a bottom feeder Sacra St. Team and fumbled to a 3-9 season then?

Exactly, but even worse, considering we don't have a future 3rd round NFL pick starting at QB as a freshman.
Of course maybe we do, and the ND loss is what gets him starting.

OS lost to Sac. St. and then Riley pulled the senior QB Ryan Katz for freshman Sean Mannion.
Figured if the season was lost, better start building for next season. And it helped because the Beavers started out hot in 2012 (like 7-0).

A lot of my frustrations are definitely a bit of over-reaction but also a lot of it is how I will feel throughout the week.

Let's pull Coffman and play the freshman QB. The season is lost, might as well build for next year.

Did they pull Mannion when #25 OSU lost to EWU a few years back?

Pull a QB who went 37/43 422 yards and 3TD-0 INT ?

You must not be following my drift here coach. Pull the QB that isn't getting it done, build for the future. Mannion was the future in 2011 and 2013.

Coffman won't be on the team in 4 months, so might as well look to Smith now.

 

[kansasCowboy]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

I understand. But, then shouldn't Snyder be fired from Kansas State for losing to NDSU? That year, KSU went 8-5 and beat Michigan in a bowl game. (No, I'm not expecting UND to go unbeaten and UW to win 8 games or more.)

I think sometimes losing to an FCS school is escusable. I'm hoping that we find out that both UW and UND come out of with much better records than expected. Of course, I wear both brown and gold/green and white glasses.

Okay, I can buy that sometimes it can be excusable, but most times it should not be.

The year the Beavers lost to EWU, they were ranked #25 in the country. They ended up winning their next 6 games and getting back into the Top 25 at 6-1, before the Beavs stumbled a little bit towards the end of the season.

But at the end of the season, the Beavers lost a game they shouldn't have, and it hurts on the win total.

I don't expect Wyo to turn it around the way the Beavs or the way K-State did though. There is no way in hell this game should be excusable. The Cal Poly loss is more excusable because we didn't have our starting QB.

We just laid a fricking egg against ND. That is not okay in any way.

So the. You expect it to be like 2011 when OSU lost to a bottom feeder Sacra St. Team and fumbled to a 3-9 season then?

Exactly, but even worse, considering we don't have a future 3rd round NFL pick starting at QB as a freshman.
Of course maybe we do, and the ND loss is what gets him starting.

OS lost to Sac. St. and then Riley pulled the senior QB Ryan Katz for freshman Sean Mannion.
Figured if the season was lost, better start building for next season. And it helped because the Beavers started out hot in 2012 (like 7-0).

A lot of my frustrations are definitely a bit of over-reaction but also a lot of it is how I will feel throughout the week.

Let's pull Coffman and play the freshman QB. The season is lost, might as well build for next year.

Did they pull Mannion when #25 OSU lost to EWU a few years back?

Pull a QB who went 37/43 422 yards and 3TD-0 INT ?

You must not be following my drift here coach. Pull the QB that isn't getting it done, build for the future. Mannion was the future in 2011 and 2013.

Coffman won't be on the team in 4 months, so might as well look to Smith now.

I don't know the stats of a game I didn't care about 2 years ago. Sorry. But the point was you go off on the deepens when we lose like we did, but I recall no spouting during these two loses that were so close to you. In fact were you not defending DC after the CP loss?

 

[SDPokeFan]

I lost my mind when Wyoming lost to Cal-Poly. Now with this loss, I'm starting to see this program for what it is. My optimism is being overtaken by reality and apathy. We have a large number of people in this forum actually rationalizing why it's perfectly OK that we lost to a terrible FCS team. Excuses abound. Hell I just read an article on Pokes Authority that spends 500 words talking about how great Wyoming's punting game was Saturday. What the eff has happened to a once proud program?

 

[Wyokie]

I lost my mind when Wyoming lost to Cal-Poly. Now with this loss, I'm starting to see this program for what it is. My optimism is being overtaken by reality and apathy. We have a large number of people in this forum actually rationalizing why it's perfectly OK that we lost to a terrible FCS team. Excuses abound. Hell I just read an article on Pokes Authority that spends 500 words talking about how great Wyoming's punting game was Saturday. What the eff has happened to a once proud program?

I feel the same way. My only question is when did UW football jump the shark?

 

[BeaverPoke]

No reason to keep him around.

Pathetic.

Hey Beav,

Didn't your OSU Beavers lose to Sacramento St in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013?
Kind of being a little harsh don't you think? And that was years after Mike Riley had his system in place. This is game one of year two...

Yep and I was one of the most excited when Nebraska took him away from us.
Losing to an FCS school is unacceptable and in my opinion is a fire-able offense.

I understand. But, then shouldn't Snyder be fired from Kansas State for losing to NDSU? That year, KSU went 8-5 and beat Michigan in a bowl game. (No, I'm not expecting UND to go unbeaten and UW to win 8 games or more.)

I think sometimes losing to an FCS school is escusable. I'm hoping that we find out that both UW and UND come out of with much better records than expected. Of course, I wear both brown and gold/green and white glasses.

Okay, I can buy that sometimes it can be excusable, but most times it should not be.

The year the Beavers lost to EWU, they were ranked #25 in the country. They ended up winning their next 6 games and getting back into the Top 25 at 6-1, before the Beavs stumbled a little bit towards the end of the season.

But at the end of the season, the Beavers lost a game they shouldn't have, and it hurts on the win total.

I don't expect Wyo to turn it around the way the Beavs or the way K-State did though. There is no way in hell this game should be excusable. The Cal Poly loss is more excusable because we didn't have our starting QB.

We just laid a fricking egg against ND. That is not okay in any way.

So the. You expect it to be like 2011 when OSU lost to a bottom feeder Sacra St. Team and fumbled to a 3-9 season then?

Exactly, but even worse, considering we don't have a future 3rd round NFL pick starting at QB as a freshman.
Of course maybe we do, and the ND loss is what gets him starting.

OS lost to Sac. St. and then Riley pulled the senior QB Ryan Katz for freshman Sean Mannion.
Figured if the season was lost, better start building for next season. And it helped because the Beavers started out hot in 2012 (like 7-0).

A lot of my frustrations are definitely a bit of over-reaction but also a lot of it is how I will feel throughout the week.

Let's pull Coffman and play the freshman QB. The season is lost, might as well build for next year.

Did they pull Mannion when #25 OSU lost to EWU a few years back?

Pull a QB who went 37/43 422 yards and 3TD-0 INT ?

You must not be following my drift here coach. Pull the QB that isn't getting it done, build for the future. Mannion was the future in 2011 and 2013.

Coffman won't be on the team in 4 months, so might as well look to Smith now.

I don't know the stats of a game I didn't care about 2 years ago. Sorry. But the point was you go off on the deepens when we lose like we did, but I recall no spouting during these two loses that were so close to you. In fact were you not defending DC after the CP loss?

I may have been, hell I probably was. I still stand by the claim that had Brett not been hurt that season, we smash Cal Poly, and beat AFA, at minimum.

But, like it has been noted several times before, I used to be optimistic, and my tune has changed. Wyo football is not good, and will not be for a long time. I realize that now. I didn't then.