Embarrassment on ESPN

[ragtimejoe1]

Utah State is really well-situated to develop into a true rival.

I hear this a lot. Why? Attendance was terrible and is usually terrible when we play them. They have never been a rival, and frankly, most don't care if we play them or not. By far, the majority of WYO fans couldn't care less about usu as an opponent; they are just another team on the schedule.

They will never be a rival any more than the Utes were. Just because we made some token rifle doesn't make this a rivalry. Edit: The rifle itself is cool but is used in a stupid way.

I don't get it.

 

[PokeFan1980]

Lol at the oregon-vandy comparison.

And as for Bohl being a better coach than Riley?
Riley may be at the end of his tenure and has certainly done a shit job in the last two seasons but comparing a 4-6 career record coach to someone who has lead Oregon State to the third most wins in the pac10/12 during his tenure at OS (and most out of the non-ncaa violation schools) does not make any sense.

EVERYTHING Bohl has accomplished is been at the D2 and FCS levels.
He is 4-6 as a head coach of an FBS team. Meanwhile Riley is one of the longest tenured coaches in the NCAA and has coacjed an NFL team.
Bohl doesn't have nearly the experience Riley has to be making that claim. Lets see in 5 years.

Beav, I'm confused... I looked up Riley's career record and he is 11th in conference wins and 28th in career winning percentage. Heck, he's behind guys like Rick Nueheisal who was fired from two different Pac10/12 schools. I agree comparing Bohl and Riley is irrelevant but I don't think Riley is the poster child for winning.

Statistics can me misleading especially while comparing wins when he is the longest tenured head coach. That doesn't tell the whole story when nowadays in CFB coaching tenures are 3-5 years. You either win and get another job or lose and get fired. Career .500 conference record seems that your signature about mediocrity may be as relevant to he Beavs as it is the Pokes.

For those of us that were there hopefully you can re-watch on ESPN at some point. Commentators note several times that game was being played closer than the score. Two big plays and penalties killed us but had you told me we'd hold them to 3 pts from the 2nd-4th qtrs I would have liked our chances.

 

[BeaverPoke]

During Rileys tenure at Oregon State, the Beavers have the 3rd most wins in the Pac12. Behind only USC and Oregon. Both of those two schools have had NCAA violations during Rileys Tenure.

I never once said that Riley was the 3rd most winning Pac12 coach of all time.

 

[BeaverPoke]

And if you really want to look into it, the Beavers have ended multiple seasons ranked in the Top25, and have been a Civil War win away from the Rose Bowl in 2008 and 2009.

Are the Beavers a powerhouse? Hardly.

Are the Beavers much more respected and accomplished than Wyoming?
Yes, without question.

But I do like that several posters have made this an Oregon State vs. Wyoming debate, so we can quit paying attention to the original point that Wyoming football is an embarrassment right now.

I am so sick of hearing about how good the future looks, and how Bohl is a good coach.

We had 14K show up for the game on ESPN2. No excuses. That shit is inexcusable.

 

[snowsailor]

Wyoming has been, and will always be, a 100-110 rated football team out of 120 FBS teams. This program is in the shithole and you sunshine pumpers refuse to believe it. Well, a nationally televise ESPN Friday night game and 14K show up? IT IS A SIGN OF A SHITHOLE PROGRAM. Wake up people.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Wyoming has been, and will always be, a 100-110 rated football team out of 120 FBS teams. This program is in the shithole and you sunshine pumpers refuse to believe it. Well, a nationally televise ESPN Friday night game and 14K show up? IT IS A SIGN OF A SHITHOLE PROGRAM. Wake up people.

No no no, don't bring cold hard facts into the conversation.
14K is the sign of cold weather, national TV, and hunting.

 

[HiCountryCowboy]

Wyoming has been, and will always be, a 100-110 rated football team out of 120 FBS teams. This program is in the shithole and you sunshine pumpers refuse to believe it. Well, a nationally televise ESPN Friday night game and 14K show up? IT IS A SIGN OF A SHITHOLE PROGRAM. Wake up people.

No no no, don't bring cold hard facts into the conversation.
14K is the sign of cold weather, national TV, and hunting.

You're f'ing nuts and should quit posting for a while. You start one thread yesterday stating that Wyoming can beat Boise next game and now your agreeing with Snowsailor (who is pretty much correct) and calling the football team an embarrassment yourself (again and two days after the game).

Pick a take and/or piss off!

 

[PokeFan1980]

Wyoming has been, and will always be, a 100-110 rated football team out of 120 FBS teams. This program is in the shithole and you sunshine pumpers refuse to believe it. Well, a nationally televise ESPN Friday night game and 14K show up? IT IS A SIGN OF A SHITHOLE PROGRAM. Wake up people.

No no no, don't bring cold hard facts into the conversation.
14K is the sign of cold weather, national TV, and hunting.

Beav, I'm into coming up with solutions... Let's go that route...

Win more? In 88 & 89 we won 10 and 11 games respectively... Still only averaged 23k.

Better opponent? In 09 TCU and in 13 Fresno were undefeated with heavy Natl recognitoln and we were .500 and get 15k maybe for each game. To be honest... 14k+ on a Friday with a below .500 record and a worse opponent probably isn't that bad comparatively.

If OSU was .500 play a natl ranked opponent they would probably fill more than half their stadium right? It's more of an indictment on the state of Wyoming and less on the program to be honest. OSU would love to draw 15-20% of its immediate population. They wouldn't have enough seats in the building if they were drawing at that clip. That's all I'm saying.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Wyoming has been, and will always be, a 100-110 rated football team out of 120 FBS teams. This program is in the shithole and you sunshine pumpers refuse to believe it. Well, a nationally televise ESPN Friday night game and 14K show up? IT IS A SIGN OF A SHITHOLE PROGRAM. Wake up people.

No no no, don't bring cold hard facts into the conversation.
14K is the sign of cold weather, national TV, and hunting.

You're f'ing nuts and should quit posting for a while. You start one thread yesterday stating that Wyoming can beat Boise next game and now your agreeing with Snowsailor (who is pretty much correct) and calling the football team an embarrassment yourself (again and two days after the game).

Pick a take and/or piss off!

Beav has become quite the PAC 12 bitch lately. Oregon State can do no wrong (despite slowly getting worse) while a rebuilding Wyoming (year one of Bohl's tenure, and having to play with players that were recruited and not developed by DC, but is willing to defend DC now) is the bane of his existence. Makes me wonder why he comes here half the time. Unless it's to be the next east-popcorn troll. Or that poster who is most likely a relative of DC's and only bashes Wyoming.

 

[Wyokie]

Win more? In 88 & 89 we won 10 and 11 games respectively... Still only averaged 23k.

Actually that was 1987 & 1988. We went 5-6 in 1989.

 

[PokeFan1980]

Win more? In 88 & 89 we won 10 and 11 games respectively... Still only averaged 23k.

Actually that was 1987 & 1988. We went 5-6 in 1989.

Yup, my fault. Trying to make it seem more recent than it really was ha!

 

[BeaverPoke]

Wyoming has been, and will always be, a 100-110 rated football team out of 120 FBS teams. This program is in the shithole and you sunshine pumpers refuse to believe it. Well, a nationally televise ESPN Friday night game and 14K show up? IT IS A SIGN OF A SHITHOLE PROGRAM. Wake up people.

No no no, don't bring cold hard facts into the conversation.
14K is the sign of cold weather, national TV, and hunting.

You're f'ing nuts and should quit posting for a while. You start one thread yesterday stating that Wyoming can beat Boise next game and now your agreeing with Snowsailor (who is pretty much correct) and calling the football team an embarrassment yourself (again and two days after the game).

Pick a take and/or piss off!

Beav has become quite the PAC 12 bitch lately. Oregon State can do no wrong (despite slowly getting worse) while a rebuilding Wyoming (year one of Bohl's tenure, and having to play with players that were recruited and not developed by DC, but is willing to defend DC now) is the bane of his existence. Makes me wonder why he comes here half the time. Unless it's to be the next east-popcorn troll. Or that poster who is most likely a relative of DC's and only bashes Wyoming.

Lol, Oregon State can do no wrong?
Where did I say that? Oregon State only seems to do wrong on the field this season. Fuck man they lost to Cal AND Wazzu at home. They don't show up against big opponents unless it is in Corvallis. But, this isn't an Oregon State message board, that is why I don't spend my time on here bitching about Oregon State.
I am defending OS because someone made the ridiculous claim that Wyoming is sitting in a better spot than Oregon State in terms of their football programs.

And the only time I "defend" DC is when he gets bashed for no reason, or when people love to suck Bohls cock as the savior of Wyoming football and defend him while he has done the same thing as DC but DC gets ripped for it.

Want me to prove my point?
Typical Pro-Bohl talk: Bohl is in year 1, a transition year, doesn't have the players for his system, so that is why we aren't winning.

BUT! DC in year 1, a transition year, who didn't have the players for his system won a fucking bowl game.

I am not anti- or pro- DC, I just think the two need to be held to the same standard, or else we are always going to be making excuses for why we suck.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Wyoming has been, and will always be, a 100-110 rated football team out of 120 FBS teams. This program is in the shithole and you sunshine pumpers refuse to believe it. Well, a nationally televise ESPN Friday night game and 14K show up? IT IS A SIGN OF A SHITHOLE PROGRAM. Wake up people.

No no no, don't bring cold hard facts into the conversation.
14K is the sign of cold weather, national TV, and hunting.

You're f'ing nuts and should quit posting for a while. You start one thread yesterday stating that Wyoming can beat Boise next game and now your agreeing with Snowsailor (who is pretty much correct) and calling the football team an embarrassment yourself (again and two days after the game).

Pick a take and/or piss off!

So I can't believe our program as a whole is in the dumps, but think we can actually win a game over a totally random up and down football team who can't stop the run?

When I say the program is in the dumpster, I am referring to a stadium with 14K people, a history of going 5-7 and 2 bowl wins since 1967.
Wyo's actual ON FIELD play in the 2nd through 4th quarters was not embarrassing. They were great on D, and not good on offense.

The group of players and coaches we have can beat Boise and NM.
If we do, we can win a bowl game, which helps move us towards something better.

I am down on the program sure, but why can't I think we can beat Boise?

 

[Wyo2dal]

Comparing two coaches first years with two very different teams is a really stupid way to try and make a point. Fact is the teams are 100% different between Bohls first year and DC's first year.

There is no fair comparison DC took Glenns amazing defense team to a Bowl game and he gave Bohl a shitastic defense. Bohl while unlikely could potentially still make a Bowl game this season.

 

[kansasCowboy]

Comparing two coaches first years with two very different teams is a really stupid way to try and make a point. Fact is the teams are 100% different between Bohls first year and DC's first year.

There is no fair comparison DC took Glenns amazing defense team to a Bowl game and he gave Bohl a shitastic defense. Bohl while unlikely could potentially still make a Bowl game this season.

I liked DC, but I agree with you here 2dal. There's no way you can compare the 09 team to this 14 team. Besides even though it was a transition, going from (whatever you'd like to call Glenn's last year of offense) to the spread is far easier than reverting from spread back to pro style. A spread can take anybody. A pro style needs specific types of players and sizes. And I've been impressed with the transition. I was questioning how bad it would look when our O couldn't put up more than 20 points and maybe 300 yards, but we've shown quite a bit of progression and we've done it through injury. I'll take it.

 

[kansasCowboy]

Wyoming has been, and will always be, a 100-110 rated football team out of 120 FBS teams. This program is in the shithole and you sunshine pumpers refuse to believe it. Well, a nationally televise ESPN Friday night game and 14K show up? IT IS A SIGN OF A SHITHOLE PROGRAM. Wake up people.

At least I have a positive outlook on life, and have made something of my self and enjoyed Cowboy athletics. While you hang out in the valley of life and begrudgingly tolerate your fandom as well as your own existence.

 

[cowboyz]

Lol at the oregon-vandy comparison.

And as for Bohl being a better coach than Riley?
Riley may be at the end of his tenure and has certainly done a shit job in the last two seasons but comparing a 4-6 career record coach to someone who has lead Oregon State to the third most wins in the pac10/12 during his tenure at OS (and most out of the non-ncaa violation schools) does not make any sense.

EVERYTHING Bohl has accomplished is been at the D2 and FCS levels.
He is 4-6 as a head coach of an FBS team. Meanwhile Riley is one of the longest tenured coaches in the NCAA and has coacjed an NFL team.
Bohl doesn't have nearly the experience Riley has to be making that claim. Lets see in 5 years.

The Oregon Vandy comparison is because you say that OS has a better future than Wyo, simply based on playing in a better conference, so I am asking, does Vandy have a better future because they play in a superior conference to Oregon?

While Riley is long in the tooth as a coach, his record against FBS teams is about .500, about the same as Bohl's limited opportunities against FBS teams. And Bohl had to go to war with FCS teams in most of those wins. Not to mention that Bohl's first year is already better than Riley's first year at OS. Plus bringing up the fact he coached in the NFL doesn't argue your case too well. His team was horrible and was fired.

I'm not saying Wyo will win a national championship, we won't, ever, especially with the new world order. But I don't see OS winning one either. So, to me, success will be measured with wins and conference championships. Using these measures, I feel Wyo will have more success than OS.

 

[BeaverPoke]

It's not about the better conference cowboyz. It's about the P5 vs G5.
Pac12 and SEC are both P5 so yes the Vandy-Oregon argument is laughable.

You can "feel" all you want, but at the end of the day OS has been more competitive, goes to bowls, wins some, actually beaten ranked teams, has been ranked, and fills up the stadium.

 

[PokeFan1980]

Wyoming has been, and will always be, a 100-110 rated football team out of 120 FBS teams. This program is in the shithole and you sunshine pumpers refuse to believe it. Well, a nationally televise ESPN Friday night game and 14K show up? IT IS A SIGN OF A SHITHOLE PROGRAM. Wake up people.

No no no, don't bring cold hard facts into the conversation.
14K is the sign of cold weather, national TV, and hunting.

You're f'ing nuts and should quit posting for a while. You start one thread yesterday stating that Wyoming can beat Boise next game and now your agreeing with Snowsailor (who is pretty much correct) and calling the football team an embarrassment yourself (again and two days after the game).

Pick a take and/or piss off!

So I can't believe our program as a whole is in the dumps, but think we can actually win a game over a totally random up and down football team who can't stop the run?

When I say the program is in the dumpster, I am referring to a stadium with 14K people, a history of going 5-7 and 2 bowl wins since 1967.
Wyo's actual ON FIELD play in the 2nd through 4th quarters was not embarrassing. They were great on D, and not good on offense.

The group of players and coaches we have can beat Boise and NM.
If we do, we can win a bowl game, which helps move us towards something better.

I am down on the program sure, but why can't I think we can beat Boise?

Well said Beaver.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Thank you 1980.