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DC throws players under the bus

J-Rod said:
*Face Palm*

Like I said, by March watch the attitude change.

lol, I know.
Only after a 4-8 season would people think 2 straight years of winning every game would make you 15th at best
 
BeaverPoke said:
cowboyz said:
I'm also worried that our leading scorer might move somewhere that will scholarship him. At the end of the day, it's all about putting points on the board, and Williams had the most.

Williams isn't going anywhere. The kid is in the engineering program for school. He isn't here to be a stud kicker.. lol
Is our engineering program free for out-of-state students, I didn't realize? I'm not saying he's here to be a stud kicker, but he was recruited by other schools, who also might have engineering programs. Some people might rather not have to pay for their education if given the opportunity. Not to mention that when you're not scholarshipped you're sort of treated as a second class player. Maybe he wants the second half of his education to be free and maybe he wants the respect he deserves as our leading scorer. That's all. Or am I supposed to add lol at the end of my post? lol
 
Poke Around said:
Wyo2dal said:
I read it differently, I read is the same way every one of his press conferences have been after each game. Blame everyone but himself and call it rebuilding. This has been happening for 4 years on losses we went 8-5 and on the 5 losses it was the same bullshit he has never once taken the blame for the team failing.

So to me this is the same as it's always been he didn't throw anyone anywhere last night that he hadn't thrown them all before.

When I read the story I didn't seem him throwing players under the bus. I saw it as quesitons about the proper preparation and focus of a team, the lack of fundamentals, like tackling and either inadqeuate offensive lineman or poor blocking schemes. Lack of execution is as much, if not more, a coaching failure.

I don't always agree with you, but I agree with this. There are no excuses that are valid for that pathetic performance yesterday by our defense and OL. Fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals!!!!!! After 4 years, this should not be happening.

Wyovanian said:
kansasCowboy said:
I see nothing wrong with what he said. For once we have a coach who will call his players out. I like that. I liked that with Brandenburg in basketball.
I just heard an interview with Bill Self at KU ( I know it's bball, but it's still coaching), and his interview amazed me. My initial thought was if a coach at Wyo spoke like this, fans would be calling for his head.
He was calling players out left and right. Saying they played like "shi...crap! And if we continue to play like this we will get our Butts handed to us every game this year!"
I saw DC speak pretty much the same way. His players played like crap. They did not execute like they did in the first half. And he called them out for it. What is a coach to do. Do you want the coach who makes excuses. "Well, we practiced this all week long. We focused on blocking and tackling, but it just wasn't in the cards today." Hmm? I'd rather have a Bill Self mentality.
So, when you get a bad meal in a restaurant, do you feel satisfied when the manager says it's the employees' faults? When a war or military action goes badly, do you blame the troops on the ground?

Look, it is DC's job to recruit, train, motivate, and direct. How he's not to blame for any of this team's shortcomings is unfathomable. I recently saw Nick Saban take full blame, in a "buck stops with me" presser, for a bad loss, and I think his record speaks for itself. THAT is a coach, THAT is a leader. A coach who never speaks to his players on the field, never enters a huddle with them, loses his team in the halftime locker room in almost every game, and can't bring himself to look in the mirror and acknowledge what's not getting done is a self-deluded narcissist.

No one can honestly defend DC's second half coaching, no one on this board, no one writing for the Boomerang or Star-
Tribune, and not Christensen himself. His inability to accept responsibility for this season speaks volumes about both his character as a leader and ability as a coach.

This!!!
 
These players were recruited by DC. If they can't get the job done, it is a reflection on A. His recruiting and B. His coaching. It's almost like the defensive players have never tackled before in their lives. I'm just glad this season is over. For those of you who think this program is headed in the right direction......I mostly just pity you.
 
Watching the video interview of DC in which these quotes come from I can't say he is throwing players under the bus. He stated that the team has a positive view of the future, and that his players have a great work ethic. Stating that the tackling wasn't there, and pass protection was awful in the 2nd half was a fact (didn't personally call anyone out).

He did make some excuses about injuries, and stated that we don't have the depth to overcome injuries to key players.

I guess we will see next year (story of cowboy athletics) but finally getting a redshirt class can't hurt. I do like the players that were redshirted this year on the D-line (Uso Olive, Awrabi, Hardy, & Appleby).
 
fromolwyoming said:
Not running the ball enough? Most of the time we run, we're lucky to get 2-3 yards, if we even get to the line of scrimmage. On rare occassions do we get more than 3-4 yards on a carry. Our O-line has been incredibly inconsistent this year. Sometimes, they get a great push up front and the ball carrier can get some yards, while other times, they're lucky to get to the line of scrimmage. For passing, one play they will give Smith all the time in the world, on another, they can't block 3 to 4 rushers and Smith is sacked before he can even look down field. Some of the fault does rest with the players.

And tackling, yeah, that's been an issue for years. Other than a few players here and there, we either go for the big hit (rarely works for us), wait for them to come to the defender (with all the momentum with the ball carrier allowing him a couple more yards), or go for arm tackles (didn't work so well, as we saw today).

Also, WAY too much blown coverage or way too soft. Seriously, 5 yard cushions when they only need 3-4? :willybs: :tickedoff:
Actually, when our running backs run the ball the results are much better. It's our QB that averaged 2 to 3 yards per carry. May averaged just under 5 yards per carry (4.9), Miller was 4.2 and Wick was at 3.8. Did they have some bad days or bad carries, yes. But I feel more touches and mixing up the play calling a little more would have had them improving and be even more effective. I realize that with this style offense the QB has to take off to keep the D honest and to take advantage of a play as it unfolds. So Brett did have some great carries and a handful of TDs, but it also gave him concussions, contributed to a few losses that most of us agree could have been wins and underutilized our RBs. My comment about May leaving is because I think he may be thinking "do I want to spend the next couple years blocking for a running QB or do I want to go somewhere that will feature my talents as a RB?" If he plans on playing beyond college, he needs more carries and more consistancy, not 15 carries one game and 3 the next. This young man is a talent and proved it by having a high YPC average behind a weak-ish line. DC's flavor of the week as to who gets the touches or who's in the dog house gets old with the players. I said this before, they don't all leave because they're homesick.
 
cowboyz said:
fromolwyoming said:
Not running the ball enough? Most of the time we run, we're lucky to get 2-3 yards, if we even get to the line of scrimmage. On rare occassions do we get more than 3-4 yards on a carry. Our O-line has been incredibly inconsistent this year. Sometimes, they get a great push up front and the ball carrier can get some yards, while other times, they're lucky to get to the line of scrimmage. For passing, one play they will give Smith all the time in the world, on another, they can't block 3 to 4 rushers and Smith is sacked before he can even look down field. Some of the fault does rest with the players.

And tackling, yeah, that's been an issue for years. Other than a few players here and there, we either go for the big hit (rarely works for us), wait for them to come to the defender (with all the momentum with the ball carrier allowing him a couple more yards), or go for arm tackles (didn't work so well, as we saw today).

Also, WAY too much blown coverage or way too soft. Seriously, 5 yard cushions when they only need 3-4? :willybs: :tickedoff:
Actually, when our running backs run the ball the results are much better. It's our QB that averaged 2 to 3 yards per carry. May averaged just under 5 yards per carry (4.9), Miller was 4.2 and Wick was at 3.8. Did they have some bad days or bad carries, yes. But I feel more touches and mixing up the play calling a little more would have had them improving and be even more effective. I realize that with this style offense the QB has to take off to keep the D honest and to take advantage of a play as it unfolds. So Brett did have some great carries and a handful of TDs, but it also gave him concussions, contributed to a few losses that most of us agree could have been wins and underutilized our RBs. My comment about May leaving is because I think he may be thinking "do I want to spend the next couple years blocking for a running QB or do I want to go somewhere that will feature my talents as a RB?" If he plans on playing beyond college, he needs more carries and more consistancy, not 15 carries one game and 3 the next. This young man is a talent and proved it by having a high YPC average behind a weak-ish line. DC's flavor of the week as to who gets the touches or who's in the dog house gets old with the players. I said this before, they don't all leave because they're homesick.
Yeah the occasional big gain will up the yards per carry, but most runs we don't get that kind of carry. I am telling you this after having watched them all year and now just look up some stats on the computer. Our o-line for the most part, did not get a sufficient push up front consistently enough to justofy running the ball consistently except against the sheep. There is a reason we were ranked in the 100s for rushing offense.
 
cowboyz said:
I'm also worried that our leading scorer might move somewhere that will scholarship him. At the end of the day, it's all about putting points on the board, and Williams had the most.

Holy shit. Here is your answer for this gem of a statement:

http://www.gowyo.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/sullivan_daniel00.html

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McPeachy said:
cowboyz said:
I'm also worried that our leading scorer might move somewhere that will scholarship him. At the end of the day, it's all about putting points on the board, and Williams had the most.

Holy shit. Here is your answer for this gem of a statement:

http://www.gowyo.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/sullivan_daniel00.html

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I thought the link was going to state that Daniel's aggressive and rare blood disorder that made him miss the season was all behind him. Thanks for the bio from the Wyoming website... I haven't heard anything about his condition since he stopped playing, have you?
 
fromolwyoming said:
cowboyz said:
fromolwyoming said:
Not running the ball enough? Most of the time we run, we're lucky to get 2-3 yards, if we even get to the line of scrimmage. On rare occassions do we get more than 3-4 yards on a carry. Our O-line has been incredibly inconsistent this year. Sometimes, they get a great push up front and the ball carrier can get some yards, while other times, they're lucky to get to the line of scrimmage. For passing, one play they will give Smith all the time in the world, on another, they can't block 3 to 4 rushers and Smith is sacked before he can even look down field. Some of the fault does rest with the players.

And tackling, yeah, that's been an issue for years. Other than a few players here and there, we either go for the big hit (rarely works for us), wait for them to come to the defender (with all the momentum with the ball carrier allowing him a couple more yards), or go for arm tackles (didn't work so well, as we saw today).

Also, WAY too much blown coverage or way too soft. Seriously, 5 yard cushions when they only need 3-4? :willybs: :tickedoff:
Actually, when our running backs run the ball the results are much better. It's our QB that averaged 2 to 3 yards per carry. May averaged just under 5 yards per carry (4.9), Miller was 4.2 and Wick was at 3.8. Did they have some bad days or bad carries, yes. But I feel more touches and mixing up the play calling a little more would have had them improving and be even more effective. I realize that with this style offense the QB has to take off to keep the D honest and to take advantage of a play as it unfolds. So Brett did have some great carries and a handful of TDs, but it also gave him concussions, contributed to a few losses that most of us agree could have been wins and underutilized our RBs. My comment about May leaving is because I think he may be thinking "do I want to spend the next couple years blocking for a running QB or do I want to go somewhere that will feature my talents as a RB?" If he plans on playing beyond college, he needs more carries and more consistancy, not 15 carries one game and 3 the next. This young man is a talent and proved it by having a high YPC average behind a weak-ish line. DC's flavor of the week as to who gets the touches or who's in the dog house gets old with the players. I said this before, they don't all leave because they're homesick.
Yeah the occasional big gain will up the yards per carry, but most runs we don't get that kind of carry. I am telling you this after having watched them all year and now just look up some stats on the computer. Our o-line for the most part, did not get a sufficient push up front consistently enough to justofy running the ball consistently except against the sheep. There is a reason we were ranked in the 100s for rushing offense.
Yes, big gains will up your average and TFLs will reduce your average. That's my point. May didn't have any runs longer than 19 yards, so it wasn't like he had a few big runs like Ghaali last year that shot his average up. He pretty much had to ground them out. And he didn't play against CSU and get a chance to "pad" his stats. He was a weapon we didn't use properly. You mention stats, so let's take a look at them. May played 11 games and had anywhere from 1 to 15 carries. The middle game was exactly his average of 4.9 YPC, so let's throw it out to make this comparison even. In the five games he had the fewest carries (1-5 per game) he averaged 3 YPC. In the five games he had more carries (8-15 per game) he averaged 5.5 YPC. That's a lot of wasted opportunity. The guy can play hard, that's all I'm saying. We need to use him. We didn't have much of a running game, but he figured it out. Give him 15 carries a game and maybe we have a 1,000 yard rusher. Give him 20 carries and we have a two-headed monster. Plus, less designed running plays for Brett might preserve him a little better. There's a lot of reasons we were ranked in the 100's for rushing and a big one is that our best back only touched the ball 7 times a game!
 
WE COULDN'T STOP A COLD ON SATURDAY. Man this team really needs to go back to fundamentals 101 next year, tackling, tackling, tackling. Sure we created TO's on saturday but we didn't CAPITALIZE on them. I've always thought that our D is afraid of tackling for fear of getting injured or not being able to perform for their lady friends. It's patethic and I hope something changes, as we aren't going to be much better on D if tackling doesn't improve. Also, if we can open holes for our RB's then let's use Brett to his full potential and let's become a vertical attack team, hopefully with speedier WR's as well. It was truly a tough season to watch, and yes if a few things went differently the record may have not been as sad as it was.

as we always say here at UW, wait til next year, but lots needs to change!!!!
 
Here is how this argument will break down:

"he threw his players under the bus" = "I dislike Christiansen for other reasons, valid or invalid, and will jump his @ss any chance I get"


The tackling for the last several years have been bad.
- Shoulder checking is OK in hockey, because the rules require you run into someone that way so what choice do you have?. In football, it doesn't work. And I saw it on most defensive series in the few games I was able to watch this year.
- Players appear to be moving laterally when plays are developing and do not move toward the player with the ball. So their angles are bad, they get outmaneuvered, and/or they just get run over since the momentum is not in their favor.

I would have thought these things could improve in one year, but apparently I was wrong on that.
 
cowboyz said:
I thought the link was going to state that Daniel's aggressive and rare blood disorder that made him miss the season was all behind him. Thanks for the bio from the Wyoming website... I haven't heard anything about his condition since he stopped playing, have you?

To answer your question...was told that Sullivan could have kicked this year. So I am certain he will take over where he left off as a true Frosh...with another year of school behind him, a stronger leg, etc. Oh, and I think he will live up to the hype of being the next great kicker at UW, that we have been missing for years.
 
McPeachy said:
cowboyz said:
I thought the link was going to state that Daniel's aggressive and rare blood disorder that made him miss the season was all behind him. Thanks for the bio from the Wyoming website... I haven't heard anything about his condition since he stopped playing, have you?

To answer your question...was told that Sullivan could have kicked this year. So I am certain he will take over where he left off as a true Frosh...with another year of school behind him, a stronger leg, etc. Oh, and I think he will live up to the hype of being the next great kicker at UW, that we have been missing for years.
All I've heard was "don't know...". So if he comes back it'll actually make kicking one of our strong points with both returning PKs having a full season under their belt, not to mention that the third string guy has been kicking off. Our punting was strong this year, so if we get a guy that can snap them all the ball, it appears the kicking game is solid.
 
McPeachy said:
cowboyz said:
I thought the link was going to state that Daniel's aggressive and rare blood disorder that made him miss the season was all behind him. Thanks for the bio from the Wyoming website... I haven't heard anything about his condition since he stopped playing, have you?

To answer your question...was told that Sullivan could have kicked this year. So I am certain he will take over where he left off as a true Frosh...with another year of school behind him, a stronger leg, etc. Oh, and I think he will live up to the hype of being the next great kicker at UW, that we have been missing for years.
http://www.gowyo.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082212aae.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The kicking competition was another area of Wednesday's scrimmage that was very competitive. Sophomores Stuart Williams and Daniel Sullivan dueled each other throughout the scrimmage. Williams ended the day 5 of 7 in field goals, making kicks of 28, 35, 40, 43 and 48, while missing from 33 and 44. Sullivan was 4 of 7 in field goal attempts successfully connecting from 28, 33, 35 and 43 yards. Sullivan's misses were from 40, 44 and 48 yards. Both were 2 for 2 in extra points.



you guys do know that he was kicking last august right? he just redshirted this year
 

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