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Dameon Baber flips to Nevada
- Thread starter J-Rod
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LanderPoke
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Dang it.
LanderPoke
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I thought he cancelled his trip to Reno? This seems weird.
fromolwyoming
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Fuck.
fromolwyoming
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Which would make his statement about why he flipped on his commitment total BS.TSpoke said:
J-Rod
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It's that time of year again. Because coaches are not allowed to comment on recruits, these kids can get away with saying anything. It goes both ways though. Carl Granderson claims he has offers from Boise State and Washington State. Not true, not in the least. Walk-on offers, maybe...but he insinuated he had full offers. False.fromolwyoming said:
Get used to that today and tomorrow. Misinformation will run rampant as we rely on 17-18 year olds for legitimate info.
JimmyDimes
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Not saying this isn't true, but how do you know?J-Rod said:
J-Rod
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Yeah, that's a tough one. Good to know UW holds a higher standard, but man....recruiting disadvantages are tough as is without high academic standards. Oregon State HC Gary Andersen admitted publicly that high academic standards forced him to leave Wisconsin. It can make recruiting harder.McPeachy said:
McPeachy
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J-Rod said:
Agree - it certainly can make recruiting harder. There is already major separation going on between athletics and academics nationally. Why not just expand that a bit, to give kids the opportunity at an education that may not meet an academic requirement?
Oh, and UW needs to get off their collective board of trustees asses, and clean up the transfer credit issues that continually plague both the academic and athletic side of things. FFS - this isn't 1955. Change is good.
LanderPoke
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McPeachy, from reading this board it seems like you would make a good trustee. If you have the kind of resume required you should do it.
BeaverPoke
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McPeachy said:
Well after hearing about the Wisconsin admissions issue for the Beavs new coach Andersen, I found out it's not always as simple as it seems.
Too many people thought "Oh you need a 2.5(random number do NOT quote me on this) to get into Wisconsin, and only need a 2.0 for Oregon State".
Which is not true. The GPA stuff is typically the same or close for most schools, and it is usually the NCAA minimum I think.
But the issue for Andersen at Wisconsin was the type of classes needed.
Let's say when you graduate from Rock Spring High School, you need 3 math, 3 english, 3 arts, 3 social studies, etc. (again just made up numbers). And to get into UW to play football you need 3 math, 3 english, 3 arts, 3 social studies etc.
There isn't an issue there.
But at Wisconsin, part of their requirements were let's say.... 4 math and 4 english, with the 3 arts, 3 social studies.
So you wanna go play for the Badgers, you have the met every requirement EXCEPT... you don't have enough math or english credits.
That was the issue for Andersen and Wisconsin.
Now, for Wyoming, Baber and Nevada, I don't know what the issue is.
I assume that the kid had a high enough GPA, and everything for Wyo, except for a core class (math, English, Art?) and didn't get in because of that.
Very rarely are admission issues for football players an issue of not being smart enough or having the GPA. Unless they are going to Stanford or Vanderbilt or Ivy League schools.
BeaverPoke said:
This is true, if a player the coach wants has a 2.0 in high school, pretty much any school will accept him on "academic probation", with the exception of the Ivy League schools, and even they bend the rules for athletes. But you can't get around missing a core class, as that's a university admissions issue.
WestWYOPoke
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Just a quick FYI on the Wisconsin issue. The Big Ten requires higher standards than the NCAA minimum. In addition to that, Wisconsin has higher standards than the Big Ten's minimum. Beav, you are pretty spot on, while GPA is considered as a factor for some of the athletes Wisconsin wouldn't let in, for some it was a question of core classes coming out of high school, or in Andersen's case, from JUCO's. He loves him the JUCO players.
ragtimejoe1
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McPeachy said:
Instead of making some athletes fit academics, perhaps we should have some vision and make a program that fits athletes. Times have changed and maybe the curriculum can to. I'm not talking necessarily some fluff program that is just pushing papers around to make them look eligible, but maybe something that expands upon their interests and prepares them for a career. Almost a hybrid between Tech School and University. I don't have suggestions for an exact program, but I'm sure there are professionals out there who could. Example: Lots of former athletes end up in car sales. They don't need an MBA or be an econ/marketing genius, but maybe there can be a program prepping them for that. I don't know, it just seems a waste to get the kids in, try to fit them in an easy program that doesn't do them any good.
Bryoming
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I 100% disagree with this approach. Listen, I bleed brown & gold just like everyone else on this board, but the primary focus of the University of Wyoming should be to be the best educational institution they can be. I would much rather be an Ivy League school that has to drop down to FCS to hold their athletes to high standards than an Alabama that pumps out borderline retarded "graduates" because they were good football players.ragtimejoe1 said:
