Cheering for Wyoming to lose

[Wyokie]

It really doesn't matter if Wyoming wins out or loses out, or even splits the remaining schedule, at this point you'd have to think that the decision has already been made whether to keep or fire the coaching staff. Might as well cheer for wins.

+1 But here's my problem with this....If HEAVEN FORBID we win out, it'll give the "good ole boy" system the ammo to force Stenberg to keep El Jackass (Burman) which in turn will keep CDC as our head coach! We have to go no better than 1-2 with the win being against Hawaii to save the program. I'm thinking long-term here, guys. NOT short term as apparently a lot of people are doing.

Again, it really doesn't matter. Unless you're Pat Haden, you put some thought into firing a coach, and usually more than a quick meeting at the end of the season. Firing a coach isn't like firing a bad employee at work.. ultimately your reputation and career are at stake on the decision you make on hiring/firing head coaches of your flagship programs. The decision has already been made, we just don't know which direction that arrow is pointing yet.

O.K. but if you all end up being wrong....I'm jumping down people's throats!!!! :tickedoff:

 

[MrTitleist]

Okie, you can't jump!!

 

[Wyokie]

Okie, you can't jump!!

It's a figure of speech! :roll:

 

[BeaverPoke]

Haha I'm defending DC? What?

 

[fromolwyoming]

Okie, you can't jump!!

It's a figure of speech! :roll:

And Mr. T made a joke...

 

[DocHolliday]

Two (2) things I'd like to clarify if I may.

#1-I am thrilled that this fromolwyoming character finds me so distasteful - I relish his cringing at the mere thought of my name.

#2-I am not so much 'rooting' for Wyoming to lose - as much as I am completely ambivalent about the outcome of the final 3 games...and if they should lose ----> and if this is the match that lights the fuse to spur the much needed changes that need to be made, then I will look at it as an ugly consequence of what needed to happen to usher in that change.

When I consider the gloom and doom that has descended upon this football program at this juncture - when I consider the commission report recently released, and then when I consider how little this program has given back to its fan base, without the ability to build any sustained continuity for success...I see no reason to believe that losing the final 3 games is much cost to what will hopefully be a brighter future with a different Head Coach.

What set me off initially was this hilarity of talking about a 'bowl game' for this club, contrasted against the backdrop of a team that has been blown out and seems to have surrendered 2000 points the last 3 weeks.

If the WYO football program was a stock, Gordon Gecko would label it a dog with really bad fleas.

Love you, fromolwyoming XXXXXXX

 

[HR_Poke]

No one's "cheering" for us to lose in order to accomplish their "self-serving" desire to be rid of Christensen. This is simply the expression of optimism about a greater future in the face of an ugly reality. Besides, even if people were willing to see us lose a few games to try to move the program forward, I'd say those are people displaying a willingness to sacrifice for a greater good than those who would advocate the comfort of status quo mediocrity.

The people who "want us to win with Christensen" are part of the same mentality as misguided religious zealots who feel modern medicine is an affront to their faith- people willing to allow their own children to suffer in order to keep their "faith". The plane has hit the mountainside. Faith isn't going to get it back in the air.

As for the program sustaining mediocrity, sorry, but the world of College Football is in a time of great flux. Programs that cannot compete will be culled from the herd as time goes on. Mediocre teams like Wyoming will find their FBS/ D1 status under severe threat, and if Wyoming football was forced to drop a level (whether its a new one sprung from the current FBS iteration, or an outright move to the FCS) it would be the end of the program's support from serious donors.

Personally, I believe Christensen will get the axe following the seventh loss of this season. If a seventh loss doesn't happen, we're likely to see him again next season barring a new AD deciding to conduct a full evaluation and review of his tenure thus far and deciding that all things being what they are, excellence just isn't in the man's DNA.

Personally, I'll be cheering for Wyoming in the next three games, cheering for them to win against Hawaii, Boise State, and Utah State. I will back to team as a whole. However, I will also look for a silver lining in any losses- that being the very limited future of Dave Christensen at the University of Wyoming.

Perhaps you missed this gem?


Wyokie wrote:

What Doc is saying is this....we need to lose and lose badly to force a lot of changes to happen. Otherwise, 2014 will be a repeat, only worse, of this year. Because if we go bowling...Stenberg can't fire Burman plus CDC will stay another year to where Brett Smith just might get worse. You want that to happen?!

We need changes at UW and we need it NOW!!!!! Otherwise....things WILL get much worse!!!!

advocating for huge losses so we can change coaches this year instead of next year is far from someone sacrificing for the greater good. And wanting us to win every game remaining is not pushing for mediocrity. Quite the opposite in fact. It's just that you have an agenda you want pursued and are willing to get there at all costs. Most agree with that agenda but cheering for the team to lose so it can happen in three games instead of fifteen is despicable. It's pure selfishness.

Christensen's had far more than fifteen games. There's a strong argument to be made for his termination after the AFA game last season. It was more than apparent midway through last season that he lacks the core competencies and the executive acumen requisite to the position.

Thats all well and good and his firing can be accomplished through other means (emailing the president, threatening to withhold donations, stop buying tickets) aside from cheering for a bunch of 18-19 year old kids to fail.

 

[Wyovanian]

Haha I'm defending DC? What?

"DC came here to be the next Urban Meyer. He wanted to build what seemed like a decent MWC school into a top level non-AQ school, wins some MWC titles, and go to the Pac12 or SEC.
He is realizing how shitty it is to be at Wyo for football."

I'd pretty much call that a defense of Christensen. Here's a thought- maybe he couldn't be the next Urban Meyer, not so much because it's "...shitty... to be at Wyo for football." as much as the fact that he's no Urban Meyer?

I'm not sure if you speak without thinking, simply don't know how to express yourself clearly, or have an ambivalent disconnect between your thoughts and your feelings, but words usually reveal a lot about someone's thinking.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Haha I'm defending DC? What?

"DC came here to be the next Urban Meyer. He wanted to build what seemed like a decent MWC school into a top level non-AQ school, wins some MWC titles, and go to the Pac12 or SEC.
He is realizing how shitty it is to be at Wyo for football."

I'd pretty much call that a defense of Christensen. Here's a thought- maybe he couldn't be the next Urban Meyer, not so much because it's "...shitty... to be at Wyo for football." as much as the fact that he's no Urban Meyer?

I'm not sure if you speak without thinking, simply don't know how to express yourself clearly, or have an ambivalent disconnect between your thoughts and your feelings, but words usually reveal a lot about someone's thinking.

Lol okay wyonavian. opcorn: :thumb:

Again...read the other posts I've made about firing him.

 

[Slow Hand]

In the spirit of a die-hard fan I am eternally optimistic about the outcome of this season. I am hoping for a win against Hawaii and finding a nugget of luck against either Boise or Utah State. However, I know that it could turn out to be just the opposite and we could fold up the tent and look to next year! LOL Rumor has it that there was a player meeting last night and the players are all in with this team....and yes that includes CDC. They are more frustrated than any "fan" on this board! As far as the player chemistry goes it is on point and they are pledged to play for each other till the better end. So.....having said that I am on board with them. I "hope" they win the remaining three games and go bowling. I can hear the chimes of a few on this board already but I am a Wyoming fan until it is over then we can re-evaluate.

 

[McPeachy]

It really doesn't matter if Wyoming wins out or loses out, or even splits the remaining schedule, at this point you'd have to think that the decision has already been made whether to keep or fire the coaching staff. Might as well cheer for wins.

Have to agree with you there.

Wyovanian...what is up with that spectacular avatar?

 

[Wyokie]

It really doesn't matter if Wyoming wins out or loses out, or even splits the remaining schedule, at this point you'd have to think that the decision has already been made whether to keep or fire the coaching staff. Might as well cheer for wins.

Have to agree with you there.

Wyovanian...what is up with that spectacular avatar?

Same here. That's a very interesting avatar, Wyovanian.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Two (2) things I'd like to clarify if I may.

#1-I am thrilled that this fromolwyoming character finds me so distasteful - I relish his cringing at the mere thought of my name.

Cringing at the mere thought of your name, is it? No, its more like I find narcissists like you annoying and for the most part, not worth my time. Because no matter what I would say, you would spin it to show how "badass" or "great" you are. Like you did here. And honestly, you're not even worth the little effort it would use to put you on ignore.

 

[DocHolliday]

It really doesn't matter if Wyoming wins out or loses out, or even splits the remaining schedule, at this point you'd have to think that the decision has already been made whether to keep or fire the coaching staff. Might as well cheer for wins.

Have to agree with you there.

Wyovanian...what is up with that spectacular avatar?

Same here. That's a very interesting avatar, Wyovanian.

Two (2) things I'd like to clarify if I may.

#1-I am thrilled that this fromolwyoming character finds me so distasteful - I relish his cringing at the mere thought of my name.

Cringing at the mere thought of your name, is it? No, its more like I find narcissists like you annoying and for the most part, not worth my time. Because no matter what I would say, you would spin it to show how "badass" or "great" you are. Like you did here. And honestly, you're not even worth the little effort it would use to put you on ignore.

You are the best man, I truly mean that.

Don't you ever change baby -- don't ever change for me.

Love ya always...

 

[stymeman]

I can't cheer against them no matter how hard I try, but if everyone thinks the answer is get rid of the coach, then we're right back to rebuild mode, argh we just can't win for losing.....maybe it truly is time to drop to FCS, i mean why not, we'd be a bit more competitive. I just don't know but it' s hard to root against my Pokes

 

[PokeOLoco]

I don't have answer. I have resigned to the fact that things totally out of my control aren't worth worry about, but God damn it... WE ARE NOT DROPPING TO FCS. EVER. I will stop supporting UW football. Period. And so will 70% of the fans. Utah fans say they'd rather lose to UCLA than beat Wyoming. I'd rather lose to Boise than beat Missouri-Rolla.

 

[Wyovanian]

Haha I'm defending DC? What?

"DC came here to be the next Urban Meyer. He wanted to build what seemed like a decent MWC school into a top level non-AQ school, wins some MWC titles, and go to the Pac12 or SEC.
He is realizing how shitty it is to be at Wyo for football."

I'd pretty much call that a defense of Christensen. Here's a thought- maybe he couldn't be the next Urban Meyer, not so much because it's "...shitty... to be at Wyo for football." as much as the fact that he's no Urban Meyer?

I'm not sure if you speak without thinking, simply don't know how to express yourself clearly, or have an ambivalent disconnect between your thoughts and your feelings, but words usually reveal a lot about someone's thinking.

Lol okay wyonavian. opcorn: :thumb:

Again...read the other posts I've made about firing him.

Schizophrenic. Okay, got it. That clears that up. Hopefully you can control it with meds...

 

[JimmyDimes]

I can't cheer against them no matter how hard I try, but if everyone thinks the answer is get rid of the coach, then we're right back to rebuild mode, argh we just can't win for losing.....maybe it truly is time to drop to FCS, i mean why not, we'd be a bit more competitive. I just don't know but it' s hard to root against my Pokes

I swear DC took us to a bowl in this first year. Firing a coach does not lead to rebuilding. We have some talent on the team....just need them to get coach up a little.

 

[J-Rod]

I swear DC took us to a bowl in this first year. Firing a coach does not lead to rebuilding. We have some talent on the team....just need them to get coach up a little.

+1 The team is poised to succeed right away. If anything, the rebuilding would come in 2015 with the mass graduation. Fresno will do the same next season after this one-off group of theirs all leaves.

 

[Wyovanian]

It really doesn't matter if Wyoming wins out or loses out, or even splits the remaining schedule, at this point you'd have to think that the decision has already been made whether to keep or fire the coaching staff. Might as well cheer for wins.

Have to agree with you there.

Wyovanian...what is up with that spectacular avatar?

That's actually me channeling Marlon Brando channeling Joseph Conrad...

Or, um wait a minute- that's Marlon Brando channeling me after reading Joseph Conrad...

Or, well, it could be Joseph Conrad channeling Poe channeling Goethe...

I just get lost in character, sometimes I just can't remember who's who or who I'm supposed to be (channeling Beaver')...

It could also be Marlon Brando doing his yeoman's best not to crack Francis Coppola in the face while trying not to count the mosquito bites after a 40-somethingth take in the Philippine jungle circa 1977...