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Junior college transfers are just bondo on the slow motion wreck that this program is becoming....this is no way to build a winning football team-the cupboard is perpetually bare .... but maybe it will plug enough holes to allow DC to win enough to jump ship on his own terms....
 
WyoAlum1987 said:
Junior college transfers are just bondo on the slow motion wreck that this program is becoming....this is no way to build a winning football team-the cupboard is perpetually bare .... but maybe it will plug enough holes to allow DC to win enough to jump ship on his own terms....
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WyoAlum1987 said:
Junior college transfers are just bondo on the slow motion wreck that this program is becoming....this is no way to build a winning football team-the cupboard is perpetually bare .... but maybe it will plug enough holes to allow DC to win enough to jump ship on his own terms....
Nice impersonation of Cartman.

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Hey old Wyo





Address the damn topic or admit you are singing DCs theme song while riding his nuts.


I'll repeat my point so you can understand it

Once you understand it maybe you can address it instead of resorting to bitching and name calling like some menstruating 13 year old.



A program is built by bringing in talented kids, developing that talent over 4 years to match an overarching philosophy and to build strategic advantages against conference rivals. After a period of four or five years, a basal level of competitiveness should be established, and a team has a strategy or emphasis for each year, and most new recruits stay with the program for five years.

A program has difficulty being strategically oriented when this pipeline of talent is seriously disrupted through poor recruiting, recruits leaving, or recruits being improperly developed.
(See Burman's timing in getting rid of Glenn-losing an entire recruiting season, and DC's piss poor recruiting, inconsistent talent development, and significant numbers of recruits quitting)
A program is completely in a "win now" mode when most of its recruits are Junior college players that didn't make the DI cut the first time, and were developed in several different programs.
When a coach is hooked on JC transfers, there is no chance to acquire and develop younger talent. The cupboard is systemically bare. The coach knows this. Burman knows this. UW has adopted a "win now " tactic.
Why? its not to build Wyomings program for the long term
What other reason could there be?
Only to save DC's job long enough for him to get the hell out of a place he never liked to begin with
 
WyoAlum1987 said:
Junior college transfers are just bondo on the slow motion wreck that this program is becoming....this is no way to build a winning football team-the cupboard is perpetually bare .... but maybe it will plug enough holes to allow DC to win enough to jump ship on his own terms....

Are JUCO different for Wyoming than say Texas A&M, FLorida, Auburn, or any other program that recruited JC's this year? If so, explain why.

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WyoAlum1987 said:
Another long rant how awful DC is compared to everybody in the world!
Just showing you what usually comes out of your posts, in that you talk a lot of shit and have no qualms about shitting all over the program, yet offer no alternative solution, other than maybe "Fire him, fire him right NOW!" Which, let's be honest, would reset us right back to where we were before.
 
WyoAlum1987 said:
Junior college transfers are just bondo on the slow motion wreck that this program is becoming....this is no way to build a winning football team-the cupboard is perpetually bare .... but maybe it will plug enough holes to allow DC to win enough to jump ship on his own terms....

Tell that to Bill Snyder and Kansas State.

But yes, I think DC hopes the JUCOs will pay off in order to help him leave town.
 
A few of those stars from Glenn's last class:
Jamichael Hall
Cody Bousema
Adam Barry
Matt Birkness
Jame Caraway
Chance Crawford
Jim Downs
Ryan Hanford
David James
Dyland Kildahl
Justin Morgan
Corey Orth
Brandon Ribble
Levi Salmans
Trevor Shaw
Nick Williams
Remember any of those guys? Yea neither do I. He signed 7 juco's this class which you claim is "most of it's recruits". I counted 23 recruits signed. You suck at math. By the way Auburn signed 6 as did Boise St
 
ol wyoming=dont remember writing that quote, what thread is it from?
and once again you attack me like a 13 year old girl instead of addressing my point.
For the record, I am not shitting on the program-I believe that the UW football program is shitting all over itself. I'm pointing out that this is getting worse and someone ought to stop it. UW was great not so long ago, and we can be again.
oleWyo, I think you are playing in the shit and telling the rest of us its facecream.
I have offered solutions-none of them being to fire anyone now. Since you have trouble finding my real threads, let me recap what I've really said for you,
we need to begin to transition from our current AD, put together a strategic plan to restore excellence , building on our strengths and addressing our weaknesses in a way that ADDS stability to each program. If you read my posts instead of inventing them, you will see that I also propose solutions,
I think we need to find a guy like Tiller (or Roach, or Shyatt) *a stable guy who isnt wanting to climb the ladder anymore, but loves Wyoming) to be the head coach-keep the vision and strategic direction. Find the best assistants in the country, pay them well and let them come and go while they develop our talent and tactical ability...
But I agree with you that DC's inevitable and impending departure will leave us in a mess. You all know that I think Burman is as much the problem here as DC. No vision. I just hate to see the program depleted by the heavy dependence on JC recruits when he goes. Special teams recruiting seems solid, the rest...not so much.
Glens last class was a mess, although Salamans and Kildahl were OK. He was out the door and everyone knew it-hard to recruit like that...no one should hold DC accountable for that. But the rest has been on DC and it isnt getting better.
it is also unclear as to what kind of niche DC is trying to create as a recruiting advantage....when you become famous for screaming at players on the sideline and and cursing at the Air Force Academy Coach...you've created which advantages in recuiting. :? I think this class is probably as good as he could do, but I am not inspired by it
As far as the programs that other posters listed (take note olwyo, they actually argued the point), I think thier aguments prove my point. We aren't the only program in a win now posture... Auburn, Florida, Texas A&M- I think they are in a win now stance as well. But not as bad as we are... they can gamble for a year or two on JC superstars and still be deep. They also have JCs that act as prep schools for kids they pigeon hole due to NCAA deficiencies.Their walk on program is also probably equal in talent to half our recruiting class.

How many JCs did Alabama and Notre Dame take?
 
Only part I bothered to read was the last line. The rest, whatever. Don't care.

But yeah, we don't have the budgets of Bama or Notre Dame. We don't have the multiple national titles that either have. We don't have a stadium that seats 80,000+ that is filled up on a regular basis. It takes time to build up to that. And bitching about recruiting 7 JUCOs when we desperatly need guys to fill up glaring holes that you could fit a herd of elephants into is NOT a bad thing. It is merely necessity.
 
zappinpoke said:
A few of those stars from Glenn's last class:
Jamichael Hall
Cody Bousema
Adam Barry
Matt Birkness
Jame Caraway
Chance Crawford
Jim Downs
Ryan Hanford
David James
Dyland Kildahl
Justin Morgan
Corey Orth
Brandon Ribble
Levi Salmans
Trevor Shaw
Nick Williams
Remember any of those guys? Yea neither do I. He signed 7 juco's this class which you claim is "most of it's recruits". I counted 23 recruits signed. You suck at math. By the way Auburn signed 6 as did Boise St

That class was brutal. Believe this was the reason for having so few players on Scholly in 2010.
 
Yep, and the more JCs you recruit, the sooner the holes need to be refilled. You borrow from the future. Do it for a few years in a row, and you have a real disaster on your hands-glaring holes that you could fit elephants into. Then you get fired or move on, and if you flip off the opponents or get on a viral youtube cursing like a maniac at the opposing coach...your last recruiting class looks like the mess Glenn left...
 
I think Wyoming should recruit JUCOs for a decent section of each class. It can help teams develop competition between classes, and it certainly works for teams like Kansas st. Kansas state has to compete with built in recruiting road blocks when compared to other conference members (much like we do), and JUCOs seem to be working for them in order to help with the recruiting gap. Boise st. is another example of a team that uses JUCO signing sucessfully and is a key component for their success. It is not fair to compare our recruiting to Notre Dame (they have never signed a JUCO and have never had a grey-shirt).

My only concern with signing JUCOs is if they player is unable to contribute, than it is a wasted spot for a freshman who could develop.

Another reason why I like JUCOs is that we can get BCS caliber players who were did not qualify academically out of high school, or players like Troy Broyland who were recruited by BDS teams but would grey-shirt or wait for a scholarship to open up. This seems to be an area that Boise excells in getting (PAC-12 rejects), and is an area that we could get into.
 
marcuswyo said:
This seems to be an area that Boise excells in getting (PAC-12 rejects), and is an area that we could get into.

I think with our location and where we seem to be recruiting we could end up landing PAC12 and Big12 rejects. Which would be kick ass. Maybe some Mizzou rejects as well?
 
BeaverPoke said:
marcuswyo said:
This seems to be an area that Boise excells in getting (PAC-12 rejects), and is an area that we could get into.

I think with our location and where we seem to be recruiting we could end up landing PAC12 and Big12 rejects. Which would be kick ass. Maybe some Mizzou rejects as well?
Ghaali Muhammed was originally supposed to go to Mizzou, but didn't qualify academically.
 

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