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fromolwyoming
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2004 our offense was really only Jovon Bouknight.Wyovanian said:
97 and 98 classes, a certain coach road Tiller's recruits long enough to get out of here.
Meanwhile a heretofore unproven '13 team that got spanked by someone who got mopped by both Louisiana also-rans and just eked out a win against the defensive juggernaut that is New Mexico is better than those three winning teams?fromolwyoming said:
We had a defense in '04 too.
fromolwyoming
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And a defense that hit its peak in 2006 and then began a slide into being pretty bad. Glenn got lucky with Devin Moore, but the rest of the team was going backwards in terms of skill level and talent. When DC got here, he knew it would be a long building process and even stated that "we're not that good yet" after the New Mexico Bowl win over Fresno.Wyovanian said:
WyoAlum1987
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lolThis team has beaten USAFA (1-6), Idaho (1-6), U of N Colo (1-6) and New Mexico (2-4) and LOST to Texas State (3-3)-and you are telling me its one of the best in 20 years?
C'mon man.
End of Tall tale you mean....
1997 Wyoming beat Iowa State 56-10
1998 Wyoming goes 8-3 one of those losses to Georgia 16-9 (we played defense back then) also beat Rice, TCU and SMU
1999 7-4 but we beat BYU 31-17 and Utah 43-29
2004 Beat UCLA in the Las Vegas Bowl
This is not even the best team Christensen has coached (my opinion). The team Glenn left him had better athletes (my opinion).
Christensen has given up more points than any other coach in Wyoming history. His defenses are historically bad. Every one of his seasons is listed among the top 10 in Wyoming history-and he is playing inferior competition. This year's defense is on pace to take its place among the 10 worst in Wyoming's history.
C'mon man.
End of Tall tale you mean....
1997 Wyoming beat Iowa State 56-10
1998 Wyoming goes 8-3 one of those losses to Georgia 16-9 (we played defense back then) also beat Rice, TCU and SMU
1999 7-4 but we beat BYU 31-17 and Utah 43-29
2004 Beat UCLA in the Las Vegas Bowl
This is not even the best team Christensen has coached (my opinion). The team Glenn left him had better athletes (my opinion).
Christensen has given up more points than any other coach in Wyoming history. His defenses are historically bad. Every one of his seasons is listed among the top 10 in Wyoming history-and he is playing inferior competition. This year's defense is on pace to take its place among the 10 worst in Wyoming's history.
WyoAlum1987
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everywhere?
No douchebags on this board Aaron
just Cowboy fans
or
maybe its because they are everywhere...
in tractors...
in Wheatland...
No douchebags on this board Aaron
just Cowboy fans
or
maybe its because they are everywhere...
in tractors...
in Wheatland...
DocHolliday
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WyoAlum1987 said:
For whatever it is worth, sir, you happen to be my favorite poster on this board.
Your passion for the Pokes combined with your objective sense is most refreshing.
Kudos...
WyoAlum1987
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Thanks Doc, lets just call this a mutual admiration society, cuz I sure enjoy your posts too.
We'll have to get together and palaver over a libation some day!
We'll have to get together and palaver over a libation some day!
WyoAlum1987
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Thanks Alum!
If they let me out of this nursing home, I'm drinking all the beer I can find!!
If they let me out of this nursing home, I'm drinking all the beer I can find!!
I wonder how it would have worked if, when DC was hired, he was allowed to pick his offensive staff (since he is obviously an offense minded person), but the AD independently sought out and picked a defensive coordinator (who would choose his own staff)? After all, these people, it would seem, rarely have to communicate, do they?
WyoAlum1987
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Your a daisy
ProudWYOAlum
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WyoAlum, did you watch any game from 2006-2008? Joe Glenn had better athletes? We had one of the worst offenses ever during that stretch. Bouknight was 90% of our offense in 04 & 05.
We had the worst stretch of QBS ever. DC has brought in Carta-Samuels, Brett Smith, and Jason Thompson during his tenure. Probably the most talented group of QBs in program history.
Brett Smith will hold very Cowboy QB record and probably be considered the GOAT when it's all said and done. Thanks DC.
CSU wasnt good in 2007 & 2008 and they destroyed us... I just don't understand your point. If we go to 3 bowls in 5 years under Christensen will you delete your account?
We had the worst stretch of QBS ever. DC has brought in Carta-Samuels, Brett Smith, and Jason Thompson during his tenure. Probably the most talented group of QBs in program history.
Brett Smith will hold very Cowboy QB record and probably be considered the GOAT when it's all said and done. Thanks DC.
CSU wasnt good in 2007 & 2008 and they destroyed us... I just don't understand your point. If we go to 3 bowls in 5 years under Christensen will you delete your account?
carbonpoke
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I like wyoalum1987 stuff too...
but you need to go back and review these records. here ill post
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up until the 70's Wyoming played a ten game schedule... not 12. so our numbers are a little off. we were good in the late 60's, horrible in the 70's-through mid 80's. 50's average. late 80's very good. early 90's up and down. had great offensive talent because we were one of the only early spread systems. you have to look at that time frame and dissect for a minute.
roach developed something new... and made a new type of offense. tiller was his coordinator correct? the talent we brought in, were overlooked by other colleges around the country because it was a running league style of football back then.
we didn't have to compete too much for smaller receivers that could make plays in space. we wanted a quarterback that could make 30 throws a game.
you say Dave Christensen hasn't had to compete against tcu, Utah, and byu. he did his first year. and when tiller and roach coached... csu and Utah were garbage programs. they were a given on our schedule... a cupcake.
sonny fixed that. Utah started changing towards success around 96-99.
in the late 80s the best teams in the wacky wac... were us, byu, airforce, utep. so don't compare Christensen to great coaches because he hasn't had to play byu, tcu, or Utah. we have to play boise, fresno, and Utah state.
coach glenn could get his team to make a miracle victory every now and then, but would disappear in conference.
and if you look at the link, our teams in the late 80's and mid 90's still gave up 25-30 points a game. don't forget that we win when we have a better offense then the opponent. since 67... almost half a decade, we have only had success when we are prolific on offense.
I understand the want for greatness... Wyoming needs to have a top ten team, sometime before we all die. but our program only seats 30000... and players are hard to find that want to play in Laramie with no glory or national recognition.
there are some great minds on this board... but calling for the head of the guy that is getting us back to offensive football is not gonna fly unless you want to have a shitty team again for 10 years. lets have fun with 12000 fans on a Saturday watching the pokes run up four consecutive years of 4-8 records. wait and see... don't bitch till we have a losing record.
tiller sure as hell had a lot of shootouts... and if you look at that 1988 magical season... there were many teams that still scored 20+ points... and Oklahoma state dropped our pants and spanked our asses.
Everyone get off the high horse for Christ sake and have a drink... go masturbate or pound the wife.
at least we get to watch the damn games. I get to see the pokes play more than ever before in Washington state. Go Root! Record the games, so in 25 years we can bitch at the younger fans and say... during the Christensen years at least we could score, at least we had fans...
those looking for a Prolific win... like Ol Miss, or Tennessee... we had losing records those years... fans left and never came back.
but you need to go back and review these records. here ill post
http://www.collegefootball.bz/wyoming" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
up until the 70's Wyoming played a ten game schedule... not 12. so our numbers are a little off. we were good in the late 60's, horrible in the 70's-through mid 80's. 50's average. late 80's very good. early 90's up and down. had great offensive talent because we were one of the only early spread systems. you have to look at that time frame and dissect for a minute.
roach developed something new... and made a new type of offense. tiller was his coordinator correct? the talent we brought in, were overlooked by other colleges around the country because it was a running league style of football back then.
we didn't have to compete too much for smaller receivers that could make plays in space. we wanted a quarterback that could make 30 throws a game.
you say Dave Christensen hasn't had to compete against tcu, Utah, and byu. he did his first year. and when tiller and roach coached... csu and Utah were garbage programs. they were a given on our schedule... a cupcake.
sonny fixed that. Utah started changing towards success around 96-99.
in the late 80s the best teams in the wacky wac... were us, byu, airforce, utep. so don't compare Christensen to great coaches because he hasn't had to play byu, tcu, or Utah. we have to play boise, fresno, and Utah state.
coach glenn could get his team to make a miracle victory every now and then, but would disappear in conference.
and if you look at the link, our teams in the late 80's and mid 90's still gave up 25-30 points a game. don't forget that we win when we have a better offense then the opponent. since 67... almost half a decade, we have only had success when we are prolific on offense.
I understand the want for greatness... Wyoming needs to have a top ten team, sometime before we all die. but our program only seats 30000... and players are hard to find that want to play in Laramie with no glory or national recognition.
there are some great minds on this board... but calling for the head of the guy that is getting us back to offensive football is not gonna fly unless you want to have a shitty team again for 10 years. lets have fun with 12000 fans on a Saturday watching the pokes run up four consecutive years of 4-8 records. wait and see... don't bitch till we have a losing record.
tiller sure as hell had a lot of shootouts... and if you look at that 1988 magical season... there were many teams that still scored 20+ points... and Oklahoma state dropped our pants and spanked our asses.
Everyone get off the high horse for Christ sake and have a drink... go masturbate or pound the wife.
at least we get to watch the damn games. I get to see the pokes play more than ever before in Washington state. Go Root! Record the games, so in 25 years we can bitch at the younger fans and say... during the Christensen years at least we could score, at least we had fans...
those looking for a Prolific win... like Ol Miss, or Tennessee... we had losing records those years... fans left and never came back.
Pokes Forever
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This team is one concussion away from being mediocre at best...remember last year? The defense hasn't stopped anyone and the consistency on offense isn't there.....anyone see the second and third quarters yesterday? I have seen several posts about the changing college football landscape and how the fans need to keep up....bottom line is that the game still requires that you you score more points than your opposition and in order to achieve that you need to put out a team that can consistently move the ball and score and a defense that can keep the opposition from doing the same.....I understand momentum and the ebb and flow of games but coaching and adapting to the changes that transpire during the game (weather delays, turnovers opponents adaptions) is something Wyoming has been poor at doing in recent years....we beat Air Force, Idaho, FCS UNC, and New Mexico. All of which I'm not sure we do without Smith.....football is a team game and I'm not sure I am seeing much of a team......I hope I'm wrong!
