2027 Border War

[Vapoke]

The First Domino has fallen. CSU has cancelled their game with Wisconsin which aligns with our road game at UNT. Thammel says CSU is looking for a 7th home game but I don't see Reeves letting CSU host the Border War 3 years in a row

 

[McPeachy]

The First Domino has fallen. CSU has cancelled their game with Wisconsin which aligns with our road game at UNT. Thammel says CSU is looking for a 7th home game but I don't see Reeves letting CSU host the Border War 3 years in a row

Well, if it were up to Burman, he would have WYO go to CSewe again next year, for some more kickback money. And why again doesn't Burman want 7 home games, like, ever? He is a money whore, surely he knows home games make money.

 

[cowpoke pride]

I'm glad that it appears that The Border War will continue uninterrupted......but, it damn well better be in Laramie.

 

[Vapoke]

Well, if it were up to Burman, he would have WYO go to CSewe again next year, for some more kickback money. And why again doesn't Burman want 7 home games, like, ever? He is a money whore, surely he knows home games make money.

I think Reeves is making the majority of the decisions now.

 

[TheRealUW]

Well, if it were up to Burman, he would have WYO go to CSewe again next year, for some more kickback money. And why again doesn't Burman want 7 home games, like, ever? He is a money whore, surely he knows home games make money.

He claims that seven home games actually results in less profit for UW overall. I don’t know if this is actually true or not, but I could see a scenario in which it is.

Last I saw, the average cost for a G5 team to host a home football game was around $375,000. Burman argues that because capacity at War Memorial already exceeds demand with six home games, adding a seventh home game actually creates more additional costs for UW than it does additional revenue. This is primarily because Burman claims the overall home attendance does not increase very much despite having significantly higher costs.

I don't remember the last time we had seven home games, but it would be interesting to see the overall attendance in that season vs. six home game seasons around the same time.

 

[TheRealUW]

Well, if it were up to Burman, he would have WYO go to CSewe again next year, for some more kickback money. And why again doesn't Burman want 7 home games, like, ever? He is a money whore, surely he knows home games make money.

I was very curious and had some extra time, so I did some digging.

2023 was our last seven home game season. That year our total home attendance was 162,143.

In 2022, we had a traditional six home game season. Our total home attendance that season was 118,244.

So, at least in this most recent example, it does not appear that Burman's claim is true. That's an additional 43,899 fans attending a football game when we had seven games instead of six. Even if 8-9k of those are non-revenue generating students in attendance, that still an extra 35,000 paying fans. At an average ticket price of $60, that's an extra $2 million or more in revenue for UW. More than enough to offset the extra costs of hosting another home game.

Every year will be different though. I've been watching UW football for long enough to know the two biggest factors in predicting home attendance are, in order, game day weather and who the opponent is.

 

[Vapoke]

He claims that seven home games actually results in less profit for UW overall. I don’t know if this is actually true or not, but I could see a scenario in which it is.

Last I saw, the average cost for a G5 team to host a home football game was around $375,000. Burman argues that because capacity at War Memorial already exceeds demand with six home games, adding a seventh home game actually creates more additional costs for UW than it does additional revenue. This is primarily because Burman claims the overall home attendance does not increase very much despite having significantly higher costs.

I don't remember the last time we had seven home games, but it would be interesting to see the overall attendance in that season vs. six home game seasons around the same time.

And yet he scheduled UCONN at the end of Nov....

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

I was very curious and had some extra time, so I did some digging.

2023 was our last seven home game season. That year our total home attendance was 162,143.

In 2022, we had a traditional six home game season. Our total home attendance that season was 118,244.

So, at least in this most recent example, it does not appear that Burman's claim is true. That's an additional 43,899 fans attending a football game when we had seven games instead of six. Even if 8-9k of those are non-revenue generating students in attendance, that still an extra 35,000 paying fans. At an average ticket price of $60, that's an extra $2 million or more in revenue for UW. More than enough to offset the extra costs of hosting another home game.

Every year will be different though. I've been watching UW football for long enough to know the two biggest factors in predicting home attendance are, in order, game day weather and who the opponent is.

And the last time we had 7 home games, the athletic department proclaimed a new attendance record for the War. They sure seemed to think that was a huge accomplishment.