Plans to sell naming rights of the AA and War? Thoughts?

[LanderPoke]

I guess that’s problematic that factual information is not presented and people believe things that probably aren’t really true.

The most recent EIA data (2024) shows that wind development now costs between 3-6 cents per kWH to produce for new generation and the closest real competitor is natural gas at 4-7 cents. Current coal costs are between 6-13 cents and nuclear between 9-13. I highly suspect nuclear costs will drop dramatically and perhaps become the cheapest as the industry evolves.

Note - there is a potential major disadvantage of wind in certain grid situations. This is the problem that it is not continuously generating like coal and natural gas. This is why any reliable grid needs both.

Then why is energy getting steeply more expensive the more of our energy comes from renewable vs coal and gas? And why do countries that rely on “green” energy have the most expensive energy. I find this unbelievable

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[OrediggerPoke]

Then why is energy getting steeply more expensive the more of our energy comes from renewable vs coal and gas? And why do countries that rely on “green” energy have the most expensive energy. I find this unbelievable

Honestly, I look at pure data. This is what my job requires.

Here is some pure data that might help you better understand energy:

1) The metric we use to evaluate energy cost over time measures energy cost per real dollar of Gross Domestic Product. In 1975 this number was 11.51 thousand btu per dollar in the US. The trend has been a decrease pretty much every year since then and now stands at 4.04 thousand btu per dollar in 2024. This evidences a solid increase in energy efficiency over time.

2) Wind and Solar is still a very small part of the total energy mix in the US. In 2023, wind and solar made up approximately 9% of total energy consumption in the US. Petroleum 38%, natural gas 36%, coal 9%. Renewables are a relatively small portion of the mix and that is unlikely to change fast anytime soon.

3) Estimates right now expect electric energy consumption to increase more than 30% in the US in a very short time by 2030 due to a shift toward AI. What that means - we need a lot more energy and a lot more energy fast. I don’t see how we get there without utilizing all energy resources.

I know you probably aren’t that interested in these numbers and I don’t have any memes or shared Twitter posts to present them with but they are numbers we are looking at in the industry.

 

[laxwyo]

Honestly, I look at pure data. This is what my job requires.

Here is some pure data that might help you better understand energy:

1) The metric we use to evaluate energy cost over time measures energy cost per real dollar of Gross Domestic Product. In 1975 this number was 11.51 thousand btu per dollar in the US. The trend has been a decrease pretty much every year since then and now stands at 4.04 thousand btu per dollar in 2024. This evidences a solid increase in energy efficiency over time.

2) Wind and Solar is still a very small part of the total energy mix in the US. In 2023, wind and solar made up approximately 9% of total energy consumption in the US. Petroleum 38%, natural gas 36%, coal 9%. Renewables are a relatively small portion of the mix and that is unlikely to change fast anytime soon.

3) Estimates right now expect electric energy consumption to increase more than 30% in the US in a very short time by 2030 due to a shift toward AI. What that means - we need a lot more energy and a lot more energy fast. I don’t see how we get there without utilizing all energy resources.

I know you probably aren’t that interested in these numbers and I don’t have any memes or shared Twitter posts to present them with but they are numbers we are looking at in the industry.

I get it. If you need to add some extra capacity, it’d be easy to throw up some windmills without a gigantic investment. But there’s the government problem again. It’s expensive to use other power because of government and permitting etc. the barriers are far higher for coal/natural gas and nuclear. Democrats have waged war on coal since Obama. If government wants to interfere, make it even cheaper for roof solar.