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There is not a single coach that should not be fired

Burman reads ticket sales. He will go to the Board and proudly report how all of ‘his’ hard work led to a great year for attendance at Wyoming football. Not mentioning that weather was the most important factor this year.

Probably the best protest would be for no one to show up to the Boise game. But it’s senior day and a chance to watch a heisman hopeful run for 400 years against this defense so I’m not sure that’s the best answer either.
I am sure you are right. I just have to start not caring again. I was there for BYU. An expensive trip but I am not planning another one. I try to make one or two remote games a year. That's over for me until the team turns around.
 
I think Sawvel gets 1-2 years to completely destroy our program. They are already releasing a trickle of information that suggests that Waylee and Anderson are excited for next year. They are building a case that next year will be better and that we schmucks just need to be patient. It won't be better, but a little KY is necessary...

The reality is that they are having to go to the Legislature to cover the settlement after the student athlete lawsuit over NIL ($1.1 million over a biennium). The Legislature will decline to do so and tell UW to fund it itself (I think they are stupid for even asking). So there is a lot of outflow from the bank account, including capital costs for the West stands, swimming facility, etc. They know that they have had record attendance the last several years and they are banking on all of us lemmings continuing to go to watch a crap product (Colorado Rockies fans, you know what I mean). They simply don't think they have the money to pull this off. In reality, they just don't have the vision.

They will fire a coordinator or two. That is it.
 
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Is there a reason you call Sawvel ‘Sawville’?

You’re suggesting that Burman call Sawvel into his office and state ‘I will ruin your reputation if you don’t agree to to leave and take less money than you are entitled to under your contract’? If that’s the case - where do I sign up to be Sawvel’s attorney to sue Burman and the University. That could turn into one heck of a payday.
Take a deep breath and realize some posts are more cynical than realistic when disappointed with outcomes.
 
This season is a mirror image of the 2022 Denver Broncos. Every week we are astounded by "the new worst performance of the season" (poor play, mind-numbingly stupid coaching decisions, broken record press conferences). Nathaniel Hackett got got before the end of the season. Time is running out for Wyoming to do the same.
 
He's single, right? I couldn't even imagine trying to date at my age. Remember, the difference between flirting and harassment is usually how attractive the guy is.

Before any of our resident liberal white knights jump in, yes, I do realize not always.
Trust me, I’m 100% opposite of a liberal, I moved to Knoxville, Tennessee to get out of California. Just odd to have a random stranger mention that he has a history of questionable behavior at the bars in Laramie, that has continued since he had been head coach.
 
It's hilarious that people think a little over a mill per year for 3 years is insurmountable. Comic really.
I think the alternative - and what happens if Jay stays beyond this season and guts our program - is far more costly in terms of hard cash and fan support than a million plus a year. I don't think it is insurmountable - I just don't think there is a will in the AD to get it done. The Foundation has bailed out ADs for time and eternity at UW and would do it again if asked.
 
Is there a reason you call Sawvel ‘Sawville’?

You’re suggesting that Burman call Sawvel into his office and state ‘I will ruin your reputation if you don’t agree to to leave and take less money than you are entitled to under your contract’? If that’s the case - where do I sign up to be Sawvel’s attorney to sue Burman and the University. That could turn into one heck of a payday.
Burman could call Sawvel in and say "hey, this was a massive disappointment and you vastly underperformed given what you were handed. We can cut you loose now or if you want to keep trying, we will require a renegotiated contract." Sawvel can either say "no, I don't want to keep going", or "yes, I am committed to this team and will agree to renegotiate." That is how it works in the business world. If you massively underperform the board of directors doesn't just ride out the contract while the product is being destroyed.
 
Burman could call Sawvel in and say "hey, this was a massive disappointment and you vastly underperformed given what you were handed. We can cut you loose now or if you want to keep trying, we will require a renegotiated contract." Sawvel can either say "no, I don't want to keep going", or "yes, I am committed to this team and will agree to renegotiate." That is how it works in the business world. If you massively underperform the board of directors doesn't just ride out the contract while the product is being destroyed.
Sure. But presumably Sawvel would have an advisor/lawyer take a look at the renegotiated deal being offered and they will probably be realistic that there isn’t much (if any) of a financial upside to rework the deal and Sawvel needs to take an objective look at the likelihood of him turning around the program (probably not good).

If I am advising Sawvel - it’s probably be fired, vest yourself with the buyout money and take the time to find a defensive coordinator/assistant position somewhere which might be a better fit for you.

But given how Sawvel chooses to use timeouts in a game, I’d seriously question his rationality and ability to use logic so anything is possible.
 
Some of the thought process also has to be Sawvel's complete embarrassment of being a "horseXXXX" coach. Part of me wouldn't mind making him ride it out if he was unwilling to just go away. Every home game just putting his image on the jumbo along with a note "Thanks for the Pick 6 Coach!" "Thanks for the 72 yards First Half Offense Coach!" "Them's some ASSES, hey Coach?"
 
Burman could call Sawvel in and say "hey, this was a massive disappointment and you vastly underperformed given what you were handed. We can cut you loose now or if you want to keep trying, we will require a renegotiated contract." Sawvel can either say "no, I don't want to keep going", or "yes, I am committed to this team and will agree to renegotiate." That is how it works in the business world. If you massively underperform the board of directors doesn't just ride out the contract while the product is being destroyed.
Since I've been in the business world for 40 years, this is not how it's done. A CEO or other high administrative position isn't given a contract without any stipulations. For example, a stipulation that sales or profits reach a certain level or the contract is voidable. Or if the stock price drops.....whatever. The fact that coaches are given 5 year deals with zero expectations is nuts. I've never seen this kind of garbage in the business world. Now, if the CEO is considered a must have, like a Nick Saban, then your negotiating power is somewhat limited. But to give the reigns to a guy who has never done it before and write a contract like he is Nick Saban is just gross incompetence. Unless Sawvel was getting head coaching offers I wasn't aware of, Burman was in the catbird seat and didn't know it or didn't care.
 
Since I've been in the business world for 40 years, this is not how it's done. A CEO or other high administrative position isn't given a contract without any stipulations. For example, a stipulation that sales or profits reach a certain level or the contract is voidable. Or if the stock price drops.....whatever. The fact that coaches are given 5 year deals with zero expectations is nuts. I've never seen this kind of garbage in the business world. Now, if the CEO is considered a must have, like a Nick Saban, then your negotiating power is somewhat limited. But to give the reigns to a guy who has never done it before and write a contract like he is Nick Saban is just gross incompetence. Unless Sawvel was getting head coaching offers I wasn't aware of, Burman was in the catbird seat and didn't know it or didn't care.
I'm not sure if you were agreeing or disagreeing with me. But I agree with much of your comment. Sawvel was handed the keys to a sports car and apparently didn't know how to handle it an wrecked it.
 
Sure. But presumably Sawvel would have an advisor/lawyer take a look at the renegotiated deal being offered and they will probably be realistic that there isn’t much (if any) of a financial upside to rework the deal and Sawvel needs to take an objective look at the likelihood of him turning around the program (probably not good).

If I am advising Sawvel - it’s probably be fired, vest yourself with the buyout money and take the time to find a defensive coordinator/assistant position somewhere which might be a better fit for you.

But given how Sawvel chooses to use timeouts in a game, I’d seriously question his rationality and ability to use logic so anything is possible.
I would assume Sawvel would have a good attorney representing him. There will be no financial upsides to renegotiating the contract. So he can either walk away with his buyout, nice chunk of change, but the ding on his reputation that he tanked a really good team or if he believes in his ability, he can take a salary hit, and keep trying.
 
I would assume Sawvel would have a good attorney representing him. There will be no financial upsides to renegotiating the contract. So he can either walk away with his buyout, nice chunk of change, but the ding on his reputation that he tanked a really good team or if he believes in his ability, he can take a salary hit, and keep trying.
‘Ding on Reputation.’ Vic Koenning tanked and sent a pretty good program to its depths. Vic Koenning then had a fine career in a number of defensive positions for various FBS teams. And Koenning didn’t walk away with an extra $4 million in buyout dollars.
 
I'm not sure if you were agreeing or disagreeing with me. But I agree with much of your comment. Sawvel was handed the keys to a sports car and apparently didn't know how to handle it an wrecked it.
I'm agreeing with you. My argument is that these coaches are given contracts like no one in the normal business world would ever get. Why not stipulate, for example, that if Sawvel doesn't win 15 games in his first 3 years that the contract can be terminated? I realize this isn't done. But why not? Coaches are a dime a dozen. But they are treated like saviors. How many coaches have we had that left on their own terms? Not very many. We have to fire them.
 

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