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Yentes out as UW track coach

Golf is the one sport that doesn't work well for Wyoming. When we host tournaments, the location is usually in Arizona. Bring back golf for crap sake. At least the women we recruit to ski are usually smokers. Men's tennis? Water polo? All better than golf.
 
JimmyDimes said:
Golf is the one sport that doesn't work well for Wyoming. When we host tournaments, the location is usually in Arizona. Bring back fully funded skiing for crap sake. At least the women we recruit to ski are usually smokers. Men's tennis? Water polo? All better than golf.
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FIFY. Add on Baseball, Hockey, And Lezbo Softball and we are good!
 
Golf is considered a sport? So you have to have some skill whacking the ball, but it doesn't appear you need to be in good physical shape, hit the weight room, do endurance exercises, react in real-time to an opponent's move, study the strategy of an opponent, or any other factor in a REAL sport. I would put it on a par with horse-shoes, billiards, and croquet. At least in billiards and croquet you can tactically make
moves to thwart your opponent.
 
This reminds me...anyone remember the name of the jackass politician, that made some BS remarks about UW putting baseball back in place as a fully funded sport? Still shocked that an elected person, can be so ignorant as to say crap like that to the media.
 
As someone who actually goes to track and field events, I feel bad for Yentes. When he had talent in 2005, the women were dominant. Shauna Smith was NCAA champion in the 400 hurdles and Jessica Fox was a conference champ in the 400 meters. Both were from Wyo. high schools, which made recruiting easier.

The team was not very good this year or last. The men's sprint team has been very poor. In fact, at the MWC championship, there was hardly a Poke to been seen in any sprint final. The women's sprint team was also very poor. To be last in the mens and womens conference championship was embarrassing.

I would just add that we should have a very good cross country team. We have great fall weather and hills and altitude to train at. Yet we are always lousy. As someone who cares about the track and cross country programs, I hope we can recruit some better athletes.

I can't speak about golf but I'm happy that Burman is aware that improvement is needed in the track program.
 
bladerunnr said:
The team was not very good this year or last. The men's sprint team has been very poor. In fact, at the MWC championship, there was hardly a Poke to been seen in any sprint final. The women's sprint team was also very poor. To be last in the mens and womens conference championship was embarrassing.

I would just add that we should have a very good cross country team. We have great fall weather and hills and altitude to train at. Yet we are always lousy. As someone who cares about the track and cross country programs, I hope we can recruit some better athletes.

I can't speak about golf but I'm happy that Burman is aware that improvement is needed in the track program.
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It puzzles me as well, that all that altitude training, doesn't naturally help produce some significant results on the road...as well as at home against athletes not used to it.

As far as golf goes...my biggest bitch, is why Burman nailed Yentes, but allows Jensen a hall pass into last place (or close) finishes for more than 10 years. Nothing against Jensen, he is skilled enough, and is a good enough coach to have a position at UofA or ASU (et al).

And nobody knows the answer to why we can still be Title IX compliant with sports that we compete in (Nordic/Alpine Skiing, Baseball, Hockey, Softball), but we chose to stay the course. Pun intended.
 
It's nice to see David Hearn playing some good golf this year.

This might sound a bit crazy, but cross country is fun to watch. CU has become a national power based almost entirely on their coach and the hills to run around Boulder. We have the same advantages as they do.
I think golf will always be tough in Laramie because the golf courses are not good enough and the season is too short.
 
McPeachy said:
bladerunnr said:
The team was not very good this year or last. The men's sprint team has been very poor. In fact, at the MWC championship, there was hardly a Poke to been seen in any sprint final. The women's sprint team was also very poor. To be last in the mens and womens conference championship was embarrassing.

I would just add that we should have a very good cross country team. We have great fall weather and hills and altitude to train at. Yet we are always lousy. As someone who cares about the track and cross country programs, I hope we can recruit some better athletes.

I can't speak about golf but I'm happy that Burman is aware that improvement is needed in the track program.
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It puzzles me as well, that all that altitude training, doesn't naturally help produce some significant results on the road...as well as at home against athletes not used to it.

As far as golf goes...my biggest bitch, is why Burman nailed Yentes, but allows Jensen a hall pass into last place (or close) finishes for more than 10 years. Nothing against Jensen, he is skilled enough, and is a good enough coach to have a position at UofA or ASU (et al).

And nobody knows the answer to why we can still be Title IX compliant with sports that we compete in (Nordic/Alpine Skiing, Baseball, Hockey, Softball), but we chose to stay the course. Pun intended.
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The Yentes vs. Jensen thing is an easy answer to me: We have the set-up to be successful at a significant portion of T&F and XC events. The same is not true in Golf. It's no exaggeration to say that Laramie is the worst D1 locale for golf. It's the second coldest D1 location (Grand Forks, ND has us beat barely) and that doesn't factor in the wind, the altitude (which is a detriment since you are practicing in conditions that are so different from what you will face at most tournaments in terms of understanding your ball flight, club selection, etc.), or the incredible crappiness of our golf course.

That leads to your second question, which is much more difficult. Basically, why do we sponsor Golf knowing those limitations, especially when there are other sports that we may have a significantly greater opportunity to be successful in (Skiing is the obvious answer). It comes down to two factors...nah, actually just one...$$$$$. The MWC requires us to compete in a certain number of MWC sports and if we were to drop Golf we couldn't replace it with something like skiing (which is not a MWC sport), it would have to be replaced with something like baseball/softball. That is fine, but those sports are more expensive to operate than Golf. So, basically it comes down to $$$.
 
wyosteelerfan said:
so peach, tell me how you feel about golf....i'm not sure if you like it or not
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:lol: My words, I realize, are somewhat minced.

Wyoming Athletics needs to be more forward thinking...and get rid of the mentality that it is little, and will always be little. Also need to get rid of the "because we have always done it that way" mentality.
 
Alyssa, who is recovering from surgeries, told me that there was a small thread about this on letsrun a few days ago. Someone on that thread said that he had trouble with the administration. I guess that must be Jensen that Nowherepoke named in his post. I know the times of the runners haven't been really fast from reading the athlete profiles. I saw a few of the male runners competing in meets I watched online and they were not really competitive enough in their races versus runners from other universities.
 
69er said:
Alyssa, who is recovering from surgeries, told me that there was a small thread about this on letsrun a few days ago. Someone on that thread said that he had trouble with the administration. I guess that must be Jensen that Nowherepoke named in his post. I know the times of the runners haven't been really fast from reading the athlete profiles. I saw a few of the male runners competing in meets I watched online and they were not really competitive enough in their races versus runners from other universities.
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Not sure what you saw online. But if it was the mt. sac relays, 2 Cowboys - Taylor Kelting and Greg Miller ran reasonably well. The very fact that they were good enough to be entered in those races tell you they must be good. Both run close to 14 minutes for 5k. That's very good for the college level but it won't be good enough to make the NCAA track finals. The problem is that so few Cowboys or Cowgirls were even good enough to be invited to run in the big meets. We had only 14 track athletes qualify for the NCAA regional round. I guess that's about what you'd expect for 2 programs that finished last in the MWC.
 
I watched whatever Alyssa said. She told me to watch the OXY meet tonight. I think I will. I think I saw the runners online and on the mountain.
 
69er said:
I watched whatever Alyssa said. She told me to watch the OXY meet tonight. I think I will. I think I saw the runners online and on the mountain.
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The OXY meet has many past and hopeful olympians. It should be a great to watch. I didn't know Alyssa had surgery. That's too bad. She loves to run.
 
NowherePoke said:
McPeachy said:
bladerunnr said:
The team was not very good this year or last. The men's sprint team has been very poor. In fact, at the MWC championship, there was hardly a Poke to been seen in any sprint final. The women's sprint team was also very poor. To be last in the mens and womens conference championship was embarrassing.

I would just add that we should have a very good cross country team. We have great fall weather and hills and altitude to train at. Yet we are always lousy. As someone who cares about the track and cross country programs, I hope we can recruit some better athletes.

I can't speak about golf but I'm happy that Burman is aware that improvement is needed in the track program.
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It puzzles me as well, that all that altitude training, doesn't naturally help produce some significant results on the road...as well as at home against athletes not used to it.

As far as golf goes...my biggest bitch, is why Burman nailed Yentes, but allows Jensen a hall pass into last place (or close) finishes for more than 10 years. Nothing against Jensen, he is skilled enough, and is a good enough coach to have a position at UofA or ASU (et al).

And nobody knows the answer to why we can still be Title IX compliant with sports that we compete in (Nordic/Alpine Skiing, Baseball, Hockey, Softball), but we chose to stay the course. Pun intended.
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The Yentes vs. Jensen thing is an easy answer to me: We have the set-up to be successful at a significant portion of T&F and XC events. The same is not true in Golf. It's no exaggeration to say that Laramie is the worst D1 locale for golf. It's the second coldest D1 location (Grand Forks, ND has us beat barely) and that doesn't factor in the wind, the altitude (which is a detriment since you are practicing in conditions that are so different from what you will face at most tournaments in terms of understanding your ball flight, club selection, etc.), or the incredible crappiness of our golf course.

That leads to your second question, which is much more difficult. Basically, why do we sponsor Golf knowing those limitations, especially when there are other sports that we may have a significantly greater opportunity to be successful in (Skiing is the obvious answer). It comes down to two factors...nah, actually just one...$$$$$. The MWC requires us to compete in a certain number of MWC sports and if we were to drop Golf we couldn't replace it with something like skiing (which is not a MWC sport), it would have to be replaced with something like baseball/softball. That is fine, but those sports are more expensive to operate than Golf. So, basically it comes down to $$$.
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Grand Forks is just as windy and colder. Only d1 for a few years. Always wondered wtf they do.
 
BJC said:
NowherePoke said:
McPeachy said:
bladerunnr said:
The team was not very good this year or last. The men's sprint team has been very poor. In fact, at the MWC championship, there was hardly a Poke to been seen in any sprint final. The women's sprint team was also very poor. To be last in the mens and womens conference championship was embarrassing.

I would just add that we should have a very good cross country team. We have great fall weather and hills and altitude to train at. Yet we are always lousy. As someone who cares about the track and cross country programs, I hope we can recruit some better athletes.

I can't speak about golf but I'm happy that Burman is aware that improvement is needed in the track program.
Click to expand...

It puzzles me as well, that all that altitude training, doesn't naturally help produce some significant results on the road...as well as at home against athletes not used to it.

As far as golf goes...my biggest bitch, is why Burman nailed Yentes, but allows Jensen a hall pass into last place (or close) finishes for more than 10 years. Nothing against Jensen, he is skilled enough, and is a good enough coach to have a position at UofA or ASU (et al).

And nobody knows the answer to why we can still be Title IX compliant with sports that we compete in (Nordic/Alpine Skiing, Baseball, Hockey, Softball), but we chose to stay the course. Pun intended.
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The Yentes vs. Jensen thing is an easy answer to me: We have the set-up to be successful at a significant portion of T&F and XC events. The same is not true in Golf. It's no exaggeration to say that Laramie is the worst D1 locale for golf. It's the second coldest D1 location (Grand Forks, ND has us beat barely) and that doesn't factor in the wind, the altitude (which is a detriment since you are practicing in conditions that are so different from what you will face at most tournaments in terms of understanding your ball flight, club selection, etc.), or the incredible crappiness of our golf course.

That leads to your second question, which is much more difficult. Basically, why do we sponsor Golf knowing those limitations, especially when there are other sports that we may have a significantly greater opportunity to be successful in (Skiing is the obvious answer). It comes down to two factors...nah, actually just one...$$$$$. The MWC requires us to compete in a certain number of MWC sports and if we were to drop Golf we couldn't replace it with something like skiing (which is not a MWC sport), it would have to be replaced with something like baseball/softball. That is fine, but those sports are more expensive to operate than Golf. So, basically it comes down to $$$.
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Grand Forks is just as windy and colder. Only d1 for a few years. Always wondered wtf they do.
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They pretty much do what the Pokes do...suck at golf. They finished last on the Women's side and near the bottom of the men's side in the Great West/America Sky conference. IOW...they suck.

Grand Forks is colder but not as windy according to weather service data. About 20% difference in annual wind speed average.
 
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