Wyoming Spring Practice 2014

[J-Rod]

I don't agree here Wyo2dal. Coach Bohl is all about winning and his record shows that.

He has many championship rings, but its not all championships. He did have a 3-8 season as recent as 2009. It took him awhile to build NDSU too. They weren't juggernauts the moment he got there. He's a lot like App State's former coach Jerry Moore. Moderate-to-great success for most of his tenure, and everything came together for a dominant 3-year run. But they weren't always that monster.

 

[POKE FAN]

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Wyoming Spring Depth Chart Released on Monday
Head Coach Craig Bohl Described the Depth Chart as

Monday saw head coach Craig Bohl and his coaching staff release the first depth chart of 2014 Spring practice. The release came at the beginning of the fourth and final week of Spring drills for the Cowboys, but was described by Bohl as a "fluid depth chart" that would change as the Cowboy coaches continue to evaluate their student-athletes' performances in practice.

"I'm glad we have another week of practice ahead of us," said Bohl. "We won't be able to accomplish quite as much this week. The last Friday of Spring practice is a non-padded practice, and then we're playing our Spring Game on Saturday. But we've made good progress during the course of spring.

"We're not the finished product, but I thought Saturday's scrimmage looked more like football. There were more striking hits. We got our running game going. There were a couple big plays in the passing game, and it gave us an opportunity to start to separate some guys on the depth chart.

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[joshvanklomp]

I agree he is about winning and his record shows it but his points all come in the first half. I am still worried that moving from FCS to FBS and facing teams that have the capability of turning it on in the second half. We only saw one NDSU game where the second half mattered and that was against KS.

Color me not convinced until I see him coach for an entire game it's the pessimistic side of me that I can't seem to shake.

Look harder.

Northern Iowa this past year. Down 13-7 at half and 23-10 after 3. Scored 14 unanswered in the 4th to win 24-23. They don't panic either. Those were 10-play and 8-play scoring drives, going over 4 minutes each.

 

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[joshvanklomp]

As for "playing to not lose," I think that can be viewed as a misconception of the West Coast offense. Its not like he's changing his philosophy mid-game so that they won't lose. Its the same mentality in the first half as it is in the second half.

Sure, maybe they slow it down a little bit. But at the same time, the defense turned up the heat in the second half.

The Bison scored 336 points in the first half (22.4 ppg), and 245 points in the second half (16.3 ppg). The defense allowed 105 first half points (7.0 ppg) and 64 second-half points (4.3 ppg). Yes, that is the entire season.

If they were playing to not lose, the defense is where you would see them take their foot off the pedal, not the offense.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

As for "playing to not lose," I think that can be viewed as a misconception of the West Coast offense. Its not like he's changing his philosophy mid-game so that they won't lose. Its the same mentality in the first half as it is in the second half.

Sure, maybe they slow it down a little bit. But at the same time, the defense turned up the heat in the second half.

The Bison scored 336 points in the first half (22.4 ppg), and 245 points in the second half (16.3 ppg). The defense allowed 105 first half points (7.0 ppg) and 64 second-half points (4.3 ppg). Yes, that is the entire season.

If they were playing to not lose, the defense is where you would see them take their foot off the pedal, not the offense.

Has the term "West Coast offense" lost its original meaning? I thought it used to refer to an offense centered on passing the ball with short, horizontal passes...often with a mobile quarterback.

To me, that sounds more like the offense we just abandoned than the one we are introducing.

Am I off my rocker?

 

[joshvanklomp]

Has the term "West Coast offense" lost its original meaning? I thought it used to refer to an offense centered on passing the ball with short, horizontal passes...often with a mobile quarterback.

To me, that sounds more like the offense we just abandoned than the one we are introducing.

Am I off my rocker?

Sure that's what the passing game is centered around. The difference here is last year, thats what your entire offense was centered on, not just the passing game.

A Craig Bohl offense starts with the run, not the pass. That's your difference.

 

[joshvanklomp]

Here's a quote from Bohl leading up to his first season at NDSU:

"Right away people have this connotation that West Coast offense means you're going to throw the ball 70 percent of the time. If you remember the glory days of the (San Francisco) 49ers under Bill Walsh, they had a balanced, diverse offense."

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?5067-Bison-Article-in-the-Grand-Forks-Herald" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[joshvanklomp]

He has many championship rings, but its not all championships. He did have a 3-8 season as recent as 2009. It took him awhile to build NDSU too. They weren't juggernauts the moment he got there. He's a lot like App State's former coach Jerry Moore. Moderate-to-great success for most of his tenure, and everything came together for a dominant 3-year run. But they weren't always that monster.

Sure, he had one 3-8 season. That was his only losing season in 11 years.

Looking only at regular seasons:

3-8 once (2009)
6-5 once (2008)
7-4 twice (2005, 2010)
8-3 twice (2003, 2004: first two seasons)
10-1 four times (2006, 2007, 2011, 2012)
11-0 one (2013)

14-1 in FCS playoffs

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

Here's a quote from Bohl leading up to his first season at NDSU:

"Right away people have this connotation that West Coast offense means you're going to throw the ball 70 percent of the time. If you remember the glory days of the (San Francisco) 49ers under Bill Walsh, they had a balanced, diverse offense."

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?5067-Bison-Article-in-the-Grand-Forks-Herald" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

1989 SF 49ers. 493 rush attempts, 483 pass attempts.
1988 SF 49ers. 527 rush attempts, 502 pass attempts.

2013 NDSU Bison offense. 649 rush attempts, 360 pass attempts.
2012 NDSU Bison offense. 641 rush attempts, 357 pass attempts.

For sure, it's obvious by the stats that the 49ers did have a balanced offense. It's also obvious that the NDSU Bison didn't, they are much more run heavy. Both worked to a T, but I see different strategies.

I won't argue with the man, he knows what he's doing. Just curious about the verbage.

 

[joshvanklomp]

For sure, it's obvious by the stats that the 49ers did have a balanced offense. It's also obvious that the NDSU Bison didn't, they are much more run heavy. Both worked to a T, but I see different strategies.

I won't argue with the man, he knows what he's doing. Just curious about the verbage.

Bohl's first year at NDSU, they ran 420 and passed 328. As he builds the line, it may evolve to be more run-heavy. Good coaches change things based on their personnel.

 

[POKE FAN]

Wyoming Spring football: Depth chart gives UW possible glimpse into the future (WyoSports.net)

Nothing is set in stone, but there is now a baseline for what the University of Wyoming football team may look like when it opens the season in late August.

First-year coach Craig Bohl released the first depth chart of the spring Monday morning following the team’s second scrimmage last Saturday.

“This gives us an opportunity to start to separate some guys on the depth chart,” Bohl said after Monday’s 12th of 15 spring practices. “We are going to have a fluid depth chart, but I think it is important to start to put some things in place.

http://www.wyosports.net/university...cle_328deaae-c448-11e3-b64a-0019bb2963f4.html

 

[POKE FAN]

Nulph column: Kirkegaard a guy you can root for (WyoSports.net)

I have an admission to make.

Back in the fall of 2012, I made a statement about University of Wyoming quarterback Colby Kirkegaard in a column. It was kind of a general statement, but it seems like a good bet to come true when I made it.

It came following Wyoming’s 24-22 home loss to Football Championship Subdivision opponent Cal Poly.

Kirkegaard, then in his first season at Wyoming as a junior-college transfer, started for the Cowboys at quarterback that day in place of Brett Smith, who was out with a concussion.

Things looked solid early as Kirkegaard and the Cowboys rallied from a quick 14-0 deficit to lead 15-14 at halftime.

http://www.wyosports.net/university...cle_ca76f3c4-c448-11e3-abf5-0019bb2963f4.html

 

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[J-Rod]

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Good for Chase. There are always players who look at a coaching change as an opportunity, and Chase hit the ground running once DC got fired. His hard work paid off and Bohl noticed. Now Bohl just needs to form a team of 40-60 Chase Appleby's.

 

[JimmyDimes]

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Good for Chase. There are always players who look at a coaching change as an opportunity, and Chase hit the ground running once DC got fired. His hard work paid off and Bohl noticed. Now Bohl just needs to form a team of 40-60 Chase Appleby's.

This is a kid who wants to play. This spring we've heard of numerous players who have lost body fat and added muscle weight....including Uso. The key is these players are not the same players who stepped on the field last year strictly from a body perspective....most are now stronger, leaner, and faster than they were just a year ago.

Will that lead to more wins? Guess we will see what happens starting in late August.

 

[laxwyo]

I think we are always emphasizing size as weight around here talking about beef. I'd much rather have a lineman weighing 295 than the same guy weighing 315 with all fat added. Tell me he drops 20lbs and is much stronger and will be more agile on his feet and I'd take it anytime. Isn't most of line play technique anyway? Obviously you need some size but strong legs and footwork are more important.

 

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Wyoming's Stanton uses 'scripture' to digest 4-3 defense

When in doubt, consult the scripture.

Wyoming senior Jordan Stanton's left wrist is wrapped with tape. On it, what looks like a small essay is scribbled in blue ink. Line after line is scrawled, some of it blurred by contact, working its way from the front of his wrist to the side, to the underside.

There are play calls and alignments, definitions and angles. To you, it looks like an un-crackable code. To him, it's a lifeline.

The senior has an entirely new defense etched onto his hand.

http://trib.com/sports/college/wyom...cle_a3659ddc-2bac-54ed-9d20-1d7ea5a5b086.html

 

[Slow Hand]

I think we are always emphasizing size as weight around here talking about beef. I'd much rather have a lineman weighing 295 than the same guy weighing 315 with all fat added. Tell me he drops 20lbs and is much stronger and will be more agile on his feet and I'd take it anytime. Isn't most of line play technique anyway? Obviously you need some size but strong legs and footwork are more important.

Remember you can't use weight to measure talent. One of the things that Duvall wanted to do was to add muscle to all of the players. This is not reflected in total weight but rather in body composition. Look at Maulhardt....he claims to have put on 25 lbs of muscle in winter conditioning however his overall weight doesn't back up that claim. Simply put he dropped fat and added muscle which may or may not have caused his total weight to go up. I think it is important to look at body comp and then overall weight as a measure.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Stanton was one of the few bright spots of the defense last season. He's a middle linebacker right? At 246lbs, that's pretty big for a 4-3 linebacker. Maybe drop about 8-10lbs? A 3-4 linebacker needs to be larger, as any one of them could be sent in as the 4th rusher with the 3 linemen. In the 4-3 though, you don't need or even really want big linebackers like that, as they'll be in coverage more often than not and would need more speed than power for coverage. And when a 4-3 linebacker is blitzed, it's to hit the gaps rather than trying to shed an o-linemen, so once again, I would not be surprised if he drops some weight in the off season. But I do like his ability to wrap up and his mentality.