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Wyoming Lottery
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WyoBrandX said:
Our governor has been against this lottery since he got into office and he is going to drag getting this lottery going for as long as he can. All the while this is getting drug out, Colorado & Montana are raking in Wyoming money and have been for a long, long time. Knowing our governor and legislature, I am not holding my breath on UW getting one cent of it.
WYCowboy said:
I think they have to have it implemented in the next year. I'm not sure though - I wasn't paying too much attention other than - hey guess what, we are getting a lotto - that makes sense.
The lotto and sales taxes are mostly voluntary taxes. I like them. And it is ridiculous how many people go to colorado/montana when the lottery is high.
There is no reason for them to not try to put some of this into UW. It will amount to many millions a year.
You know what's funny.. Montana has something called the "Montana Millionaire" where it's a lotto hosted by the state and money stays in-state.. so they give away certain money amounts, like five $10,000, five $5000, and one $1million package.. or something along those lines.. it's not just one winner, basically. Anyways, tickets are $20 a piece and only run for a certain time during a certain time of year. My co-workers (we're a fairly small department) went in on one of the tickets (we had 10 total tickets in our dept, all shared) and one set of my coworkers won the $10000 lotto.. so they got about $600 a piece.. kinda fun, now I know people who won a lottery!
MrTitleist said:
That's the joy of the lotto though. You won something and its cool. In the powerball its "hey i can really change my life" - but its a cold day in hell before that happens. The vast majority of people don't buy lottery tickets expecting to win it. They buy a lottery ticket with a few extra bucks they may or may not have spent elsewhere - its something they can afford to lose.
Wyoming is becoming very-ass backwards in the world. I used to think of Wyoming as a State that was small, respected its citizens, and because of the wild and open spaces - free!!! - innovate to what you want to be!
I'm getting older now - what I'm finding is Wyoming just wants to control you. The rich guys want you to show up to work and be slave labor. The poor guys can't afford ends meet. We haver some spectacular scenary. Its being taken over by outsiders.
We kept our population small for a long time, and now everyone with some cash see's the value in that. "I got money, I'm going to buy 1,000 acres in Wyoming." - These same people don't care about the future - the education of our society - they send the production overseas - who pollute the air we breath and the water we drink (to some extent). People need to be productive - but we are at an ugly point in human history. China is terrible.
Thats all.
Living in both Wyoming and Montana I've seen the cultural divide.. these two states are very different, despite being neighbors. Montana's a purple state, Wyoming's a very red state.. I didn't think it'd be that different when I moved.
MrTitleist said:
I didn't either. I'm not in Montana currently but I'll tell you what - Montana is like a chill Wyoming. Montana really respects personal freedoms - Wyoming seems to try to want to follow national trends. Montana likes to buck the federal government (like gun laws they passed a few years ago). Wyoming did it only after following Montana's lead. They allow medical marijuana - Wyoming went out of there way to make sure Medical Marijuana was double illegal.
I can't quite explain it - but Wyoming has turned into a state that tries to replicate what it sees in Massachusets or Nevada. The Wyomingites used to lead the way - but instead now - they try to follow other weaker states. It wouldn't suprise me to see UM and MSU come up to divison 1 and kick our butts.
We have chosen to freeze our time here - and most of us dont' want to freeze it - we are at the liberty of UW, Legislature, and the Governor. Its weak - and its sad. One day, the State of Wyoming will just be a huge National Park. Everyone will be forced to leave - just wait 50 years.
Subcanis said:
Overall it's very purple. Obviously you have places like Missoula, Bozeman, and Butte that are fairly liberal, but places like Billings, Great Falls that are conservative, and Kalispell that's off the f'ing charts conservative. Overall I think there's a lot of libertarians here, moreso than Wyoming. Then again, with a few of the liberals we have in charge here they'd be a conservative back east. People east of Billings I would not have a doubt they would identify with Wyoming and say they're nearly the same.
Even as an adult I've noticed how much different my views are now compared to my parents from when I was younger to now.. my parents and I have very different views on about everything now, except guns and hunting.
Nowadays you can almost predict what is going to happen. Look at Colorado for an example. Even Boulder years ago was middle-of-the-road. Now it is over-the-cliff left and a thru-the-looking-glass type of place. Why? Immigrants from California and some other left places changed the culture. They also contaminated the large Denver metro area enough to swing the vote. I'm guessing that Jackson is now a Democratic stronghold with all the California and Eastern transplants.
Any time these people decide to populate an area, say goodbye to Republican control. You can thank God there are not many places in Wyoming these liberals might want to be. But Laramie might be one of them.
Any time these people decide to populate an area, say goodbye to Republican control. You can thank God there are not many places in Wyoming these liberals might want to be. But Laramie might be one of them.
Anyone who thinks the lottery is going to be even a mediocre boon as a revenue generator for the state hasn't dove into the math of it. I'm very aware of the campaign for the lottery as a friend of mine is on the lottery commission. While I'm not an advocate for it, I do see it as one way for the "earned income credit" demographic to voluntarily donate to the state when they otherwise wouldn't. Every factor in calculating how successful the Wyoming lottery could be - indicates that it will contribute little (although we could direct it all towards the football program and be on par with some big programs).
I predict gross revenues at about 20 million the first year and history shows that it will fall once the initial zeal subsides. Subtract about $10 million in payouts (more if they don't want the reputation of the lowest payouts of any state), $5 million in administration (that will drop some in future years, but will remain at least 15% to 18% of gross), and $1.5 million in vendor compensation, The money that they net probably won't even pay for its administration the first year and the state will collect about 30% to 35% once things settle out. That's about $6.3 million or an amount in the neighborhood of about 6/10th of 1% of annual state revenue...but, what the heck-in a state that has socked away billions (yes, billions) in surplus revenue the last decade - the state can always use more, right?
I predict gross revenues at about 20 million the first year and history shows that it will fall once the initial zeal subsides. Subtract about $10 million in payouts (more if they don't want the reputation of the lowest payouts of any state), $5 million in administration (that will drop some in future years, but will remain at least 15% to 18% of gross), and $1.5 million in vendor compensation, The money that they net probably won't even pay for its administration the first year and the state will collect about 30% to 35% once things settle out. That's about $6.3 million or an amount in the neighborhood of about 6/10th of 1% of annual state revenue...but, what the heck-in a state that has socked away billions (yes, billions) in surplus revenue the last decade - the state can always use more, right?
