Wyoming at CSU game thread

[ragtimejoe1]

Look... Is obvious the passing game is crap. Levi has some tools but he's learning on the job. If I had any confidence that these guys could pitch and catch id be calling for passing every down. Our options are:
1. Win or lose trying to run the ball.
2. Lose the game trying to throw it around.

Out of 7 years, has the passing game been not crap? Maybe 1?

You are exactly right. The offense is to dysfunctional to pass.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Offline. Hope Pokes pull it out. Have good night all.

 

[307bball]

Look... Is obvious the passing game is crap. Levi has some tools but he's learning on the job. If I had any confidence that these guys could pitch and catch id be calling for passing every down. Our options are:
1. Win or lose trying to run the ball.
2. Lose the game trying to throw it around.

Out of 7 years, has the passing game been not crap? Maybe 1?

You are exactly right. The offense is to dysfunctional to pass.

I'd just like to be successful... If I had any confidence that we had a successful passing attack under wraps I would be leading the call to pass more....

 

[LanderPoke]

Damnnnnit

 

[307bball]

Uggh.. Why does our center snap it so high??? I don't think Levi was supposed to keep that one.

 

[WyomingAgJ]

Play action 1st down and a sack. You like that one?

Of course no one likes that, but it's not that different then all the runs on first down in the first quarter that lost 2 and 4 yards. At least we are mixing it up a little more now.

The trade off question is, did you prefer our pass plays we have had that went 30+ yards, or would you have rather we had 2 yard runs on those plays instead?

That is not the trade off question...comparing failed plays against successful plays is just cherry-picking. Wyoming will either fail or succeed with the style they are trying to perfect. We failed a that with Koenning, Glenn, and DC...We have had more success with Bohl-ball but they are definitely not impressing me tonight.

Is cherry picking the sack on a pass play, while ignoring other successful pass plays, not exactly the same thing?

I argue we are moving the ball better now because we started mixing it up. Calling a run play every first down for most of the first half is predictable. Mixing up runs and passes on first downs brings more success to both.

Would you rather Levi throw a pick six or lose a fumble deep in our own territory? ...

We were "mixing it up" the entire first half while turning the ball over and killing ourselves with penalties

You mean when it was third and long because of two unsuccessful run plays? Again cherry picking plays. When you don't mix up calls and everyone knows when it will be a run or pass it is very easy to defend.

If you consider the first half mixing it up, does that mean you would prefer to have thrown no passes and be even less diverse in our play calls?

You obviously feel like this group should be relying more on the passing game...I actually kind of agree.... But if we pull this game out (unlikely) and have a successful season... It will be because we dominate the LOS and grind teams down

Actually I simply wish we would not be predictable in play calling. You call the passing game crap in the other post. I disagree and think it is "ok" and should not be abandoned. I'll take option 3 of win or lose by mixing up the calls to not be predictable through the 4th quarter. In mixing it up it would be nice to maybe see a run to the outside vs up the middle, or how about a screen pass, two things we never see.

At end of 3rd quarter Levi is 12 of 20 on passing for 230 yards averaging 8.5 yards a catch. I think that is at least "ok" to not totally abandon it. We have 40 rushes for 145 yards. A total of 375 yards to csu 279.

 

[307bball]

Geez... The Rams are so all over this game

 

[LanderPoke]

No one saw that run up the middle coming. I’ve never understood running it out of the shotgun in short yardage situations

 

[laxwyo]

You smooth brains will cry on that playcall but Bible gets wrecked on that play. Must have injury on OL. Didn’t they say Logan had an illness ?

 

['PokeForLife]

Levi has been throwing the ball well today. Some drops and a throw he was trying to force through a tight window. Other than those, I feel way more confident with our passing game than previous years. Haven't seen eberhardt in the second half, but he had a fantastic first half.

 

[307bball]

Play action 1st down and a sack. You like that one?

Of course no one likes that, but it's not that different then all the runs on first down in the first quarter that lost 2 and 4 yards. At least we are mixing it up a little more now.

The trade off question is, did you prefer our pass plays we have had that went 30+ yards, or would you have rather we had 2 yard runs on those plays instead?

That is not the trade off question...comparing failed plays against successful plays is just cherry-picking. Wyoming will either fail or succeed with the style they are trying to perfect. We failed a that with Koenning, Glenn, and DC...We have had more success with Bohl-ball but they are definitely not impressing me tonight.

Is cherry picking the sack on a pass play, while ignoring other successful pass plays, not exactly the same thing?

I argue we are moving the ball better now because we started mixing it up. Calling a run play every first down for most of the first half is predictable. Mixing up runs and passes on first downs brings more success to both.

Would you rather Levi throw a pick six or lose a fumble deep in our own territory? ...

We were "mixing it up" the entire first half while turning the ball over and killing ourselves with penalties

You mean when it was third and long because of two unsuccessful run plays? Again cherry picking plays. When you don't mix up calls and everyone knows when it will be a run or pass it is very easy to defend.

If you consider the first half mixing it up, does that mean you would prefer to have thrown no passes and be even less diverse in our play calls?

You obviously feel like this group should be relying more on the passing game...I actually kind of agree.... But if we pull this game out (unlikely) and have a successful season... It will be because we dominate the LOS and grind teams down

Actually I simply wish we would not be predictable in play calling. You call the passing game crap in the other post. I disagree and think it is "ok" and should not be abandoned. I'll take option 3 of win or lose by mixing up the calls to not be predictable through the 4th quarter.

At end of 3rd quarter Levi is 12 of 20 on passing for 230 yards averaging 8.5 yards a catch. I think that is at least "ok" to not totally abandon it. We have 40 rushes for 145 yards. A total of 375 yards to csu 279.

Exactly! Have some balance and keep them guessing! That is what we all want!

Also.. Add in the lost fumble and the pick six... Along with inexplicable drops, poor protection on crucial downs... I'll stand by calling this passing attack crappy.... Every time Levi drops back it's a bit of an adventure tonight.... To be fair.. It's unlikely that we would have had success running in those situations either.

 

[307bball]

Come on Levi!.. Prove me wrong!

 

[LanderPoke]

Routes over the middle are very, very good

 

[laxwyo]

Levi has been throwing the ball well today. Some drops and a throw he was trying to force through a tight window. Other than those, I feel way more confident with our passing game than previous years. Haven't seen eberhardt in the second half, but he had a fantastic first half.

Feel like he’s just a tad off from hitting receivers in stride for big TDs instead of big gainers

 

[stymeman]

I rarely watch on tv, turned it on and saw the pick 6 and the fumble, man, i kinda had a feeling they'd come out flat...(so my fault, lol)..why do we run the pistol so much??? Still 9:28 left we'll see

 

[fromolwyoming]

TD WILLIAMS!

 

[stymeman]

Much needed TD with 8:18 left, how bad do they want it?????

 

['PokeForLife]

Levi has been throwing the ball well today. Some drops and a throw he was trying to force through a tight window. Other than those, I feel way more confident with our passing game than previous years. Haven't seen eberhardt in the second half, but he had a fantastic first half.

Feel like he’s just a tad off from hitting receivers in stride for big TDs instead of big gainers

How long has it been since we've had better passing? JA junior year? And how many years before that? This is close to the best we've had in a decade.

 

[LanderPoke]

To! Let’s go

 

[307bball]

Levi has been throwing the ball well today. Some drops and a throw he was trying to force through a tight window. Other than those, I feel way more confident with our passing game than previous years. Haven't seen eberhardt in the second half, but he had a fantastic first half.

Feel like he’s just a tad off from hitting receivers in stride for big TDs instead of big gainers

Agreed...I feel like he is an off-season of reps away from hitting those big.