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Wyo @ Utah State

pokefanchaz7 said:
Utah State favored by 4.5
Will be close, IMO. Two flawed teams. Which one make the fewest mistakes (interceptions, blocked punts, fumbles, penalties)? Which one breaks a lucky play? These will determine your winner.
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
You can't use MMA Math to predict outcomes. We matchup well against USU and should beat them. Will we? Who knows. But saying they did better against a common opponent doesn't even begin to offer a sensible reason one is better than the other.

I agree. That is why I said you can't compare scores of one game but if you look at every game played it starts to tell a story and the story for us is our offense is really bad. The saving grace is our defense is pretty stout against MWC quality teams so I do think we will be in the game but unless the offense starts playing better we won't win this game on the road.

People saying the passing game did better against Texas St. doesn't say anything really. If you look at our last two opponents Hawaii and Texas St., Wyoming offense had less total yards against both of them than every other team that both teams played except for one I believe. Not only did we have less total yards but it was almost half as many total yards as most other teams.

So the offense is going to have to play a LOT better against USU to win this game. We need to win this game for any hopes of a bowl game.
 
seattlecowboy said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
You can't use MMA Math to predict outcomes. We matchup well against USU and should beat them. Will we? Who knows. But saying they did better against a common opponent doesn't even begin to offer a sensible reason one is better than the other.

I agree. That is why I said you can't compare scores of one game but if you look at every game played it starts to tell a story and the story for us is our offense is really bad. The saving grace is our defense is pretty stout against MWC quality teams so I do think we will be in the game but unless the offense starts playing better we won't win this game on the road.

People saying the passing game did better against Texas St. doesn't say anything really. If you look at our last two opponents Hawaii and Texas St., Wyoming offense had less total yards against both of them than every other team that both teams played except for one I believe. Not only did we have less total yards but it was almost half as many total yards as most other teams.

So the offense is going to have to play a LOT better against USU to win this game. We need to win this game for any hopes of a bowl game.

I think you hit it on the head. Our offense needs to perform better (and has shown spurts). For me, that begins and ends with the WR core. They HAVE TO catch the balls Allen throws their way. If they do, we will be fine. If they suddenly get a case of the drops like agains Iowa, Oregon, and Hawaii we will be in trouble against anyone. It is imperative to get the passing game going as it will open the running game and vice versa.
 
seattlecowboy said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
You can't use MMA Math to predict outcomes. We matchup well against USU and should beat them. Will we? Who knows. But saying they did better against a common opponent doesn't even begin to offer a sensible reason one is better than the other.

I agree. That is why I said you can't compare scores of one game but if you look at every game played it starts to tell a story and the story for us is our offense is really bad. The saving grace is our defense is pretty stout against MWC quality teams so I do think we will be in the game but unless the offense starts playing better we won't win this game on the road.

People saying the passing game did better against Texas St. doesn't say anything really. If you look at our last two opponents Hawaii and Texas St., Wyoming offense had less total yards against both of them than every other team that both teams played except for one I believe. Not only did we have less total yards but it was almost half as many total yards as most other teams.

So the offense is going to have to play a LOT better against USU to win this game. We need to win this game for any hopes of a bowl game.

It’s almost as if wyoming scored with something other than their offense.


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Usu has an uncanny ability to throttle us in Logan. Coming off crappy loss to the sheep last week, homecoming this weekend, I see this has the writing on the wall for a possible punch in the mouth.

Plus, I haven't seen the pokes win in person for so long I've forgotten what it's like.

Hope I'm wrong, but if the game was in Laramie, I take the pokes. The perfect storm is shaping up this weekend I'm afraid.

"Wins are wins" I get it, but so far wins over Texas State and GWebb are not very telling. Hawaii in OT was embarassing.

They better come to play or this is a loss and a potential turning point in season.
 
I think seattlepoke is on the money unfortunately. Texas St. is a really really bad team and we needed 3 Special teams/ defensive scores to put 45 on them. I don't think you can take a whole lot away from that game. He is right that you can't compare individual game scores but when you start to look at the whole picture of what we do vs what other opponents do it does not look good for our offense. Until we display some sort of offensive prowess against a team with a pulse I think we are looking at maybe 3 more wins this year. 2 against the crappy west teams and maybe steal one in the division.
 
djm19 said:
Usu has an uncanny ability to throttle us in Logan. Coming off crappy loss to the sheep last week, homecoming this weekend, I see this has the writing on the wall for a possible punch in the mouth.

Plus, I haven't seen the pokes win in person for so long I've forgotten what it's like.

Hope I'm wrong, but if the game was in Laramie, I take the pokes. The perfect storm is shaping up this weekend I'm afraid.

"Wins are wins" I get it, but so far wins over Texas State and GWebb are not very telling. Hawaii in OT was embarassing.

They better come to play or this is a loss and a potential turning point in season.

Last year, we were down 14-3 at csewe. On our next drive, we ran the ball down their throat and scored. Then got a turnover and scored. And the offensive line controlled the game. Then we did it to Air force and even the loss at UNLV was not the offense's fault.
This OL doesn't move anyone. The Oregon game was shocking. We are at home against a mid level pac 12 team and we can't run or pass. Look at how teams are piling up points on Oregon since. We could lose our next 5 games. If we play like we've been playing, we will. This week is the most winnable game. If we are Vegas underdogs in this game (+4.5), I guarantee we will be underdogs in each of the next 4 after Saturday. Teams get better and some get worse as the season progresses. But from what I've seen, we have to improve dramatically just to be competitive with Boise st. and csewe.
Unlike many others on this board, I think our defense is suspect. We don't get pressure on the qb and a good qb will pick us apart if we can't pressure the qb without blitzing. I hope I'm horribly wrong. God knows I usually am. But the warning signs are there that this team is really not very good on either side of the ball.
 
USU78 said:
Link to USU fan site:

http://www.usufans.com/Forums/viewforum.php?f=4

Come over and play. :winky:

Looks like pretty reasonable expectations and predictions.

I'd like to make one statement, though: our offense is bad despite having a phenomenal quarterback. His numbers look bad because receivers either haven't been getting open, or they've dropped perfectly thrown passes.

Yes, he was off with a few throws as well, but largely our offensive woes have been on the other skill positions: backs that don't know how to run, and receivers who don't know how to receive. One could probably argue that our offensive line also hasn't been getting much of a push to help the runners.
 
This is how I think it stacks up: A win Saturday, and bowl eligibility ALMOST assured, since the Pokes should have their ducks in a row for the last two (easiest) games. Lose and odds go down to 1 chance in about 10 in my estimation.
 
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