Wyo-UNLV game AD problems

[stymeman]

To respond to people sitting in the student section post: I heard that the Athletics department had a promotion to buy a ticket and "be a student for a game" to sit in that section and receive a gift as well. Pretty good idea since students are on break.

Better do it again for the SDSU game.

I like this idea, i'd sure do it

 

[wyopig]

To respond to people sitting in the student section post: I heard that the Athletics department had a promotion to buy a ticket and "be a student for a game" to sit in that section and receive a gift as well. Pretty good idea since students are on break.

Better do it again for the SDSU game.

I like this idea, i'd sure do it

I think they're going to sell student section tickets as GA throughout the rest of Christmas Break. Anything they can do to fill in the seats down by the floor is fine with me. We'll need as much energy as we can get down there for the next 3 home games considering the students don't come back until after the New Mexico game.

 

[Wyovanian]

And who is their boss? That is where the buck stops. It is Burman's responsibility to oversee his employees and address these issues. It certainly not the fans' responsibility to contact any Assistant AD. Get real....

If you have a problem with your ticket to a Denver Nuggets game, do you go to the ticket office or do you contact Stan Kroenke?

If I had access to Kroenke contact info, that is exactly where I would start. That is how the real world and business works. Burman gets paid a public salary to handle the athletic department, his responsibility, period.

Bingo. Customer Service departments are actually Revenue Retention departments responsible for short-term cash flow. Every time I go straight to the execs, sh-t gets done.

That being said, Burman, who likes to tout his home-town creds, needs to live up to that image and be hands-on and pro-active. Personally, I think there's a serious deficit of work ethic as a core competency in that office- "Don't look for nothin', won't be nothin'."

 

[Wyo2dal]

Back to the good enough mentality, I mean to me just thinking about the temp outside I would have been proactively looking at that 2-3 weeks in advance and not only made to increase the number of people but I would assume people would call out so I would add more.

Then on top of that I would make sure that the tickets were being taken inside and not outside there is no reason families need to stand outside in that weather. These are the things that someone should be looking at fixing and they just assume that because you are from Laramie you are fine freezing your nuts off.

Small things travel very far, 10 of those people that waited in line freezing will complain about that to 100 people.

 

[hithere]

He may oversee the entire department, but he hires people to oversee different areas of the department. Like Joe Verschueren, Assistant AD in Ticketing & Sales. Or Tyson Drew, Assistant AD in Facility Operations/Event Management. Maybe you should direct your concern at those people, since they are more closely linked to the issue because it's in their area of the department that you have a problem with.

Oh, just stop it. You'd argue the sky isn't blue. It's like you think you're actually helping or know anything about the situation at UW.

Problems don't get resolved by just googling names in an athletic department in a town or state that you've never even been in. This ain't the Nuggets. This is a place where a good majority of fans that are being shafted know Tom Burman personally and are getting sick of this bullshit. Finally.

 

[CowboyNV]

He may oversee the entire department, but he hires people to oversee different areas of the department. Like Joe Verschueren, Assistant AD in Ticketing & Sales. Or Tyson Drew, Assistant AD in Facility Operations/Event Management. Maybe you should direct your concern at those people, since they are more closely linked to the issue because it's in their area of the department that you have a problem with.

Oh, just stop it. You'd argue the sky isn't blue. It's like you think you're actually helping or know anything about the situation at UW.

Problems don't get resolved by just googling names in an athletic department in a town or state that you've never even been in. This ain't the Nuggets. This is a place where a good majority of fans that are being shafted know Tom Burman personally and are getting sick of this bullshit. Finally.

+1000 Ding, ding, ding....we have a winner. :thumb:

 

[Lost Poke]

The only counter-argument I'd make here, is that Wyoming is the only place I've been where people expect to show up 3 minute and 42 seconds prior to an event (sports, music, whatever) and expect to all waltz in at the same time.

 

[Wyo2dal]

The only counter-argument I'd make here, is that Wyoming is the only place I've been where people expect to show up 3 minute and 42 seconds prior to an event (sports, music, whatever) and expect to all waltz in at the same time.

Is that during winter or all the time? Most of the games I went to before it got cold outside I never paid attention to, but when it's cold outside I notice people don't want to deal with it.

 

[Wyowilly2015]

It was 6:45 or so when I was in line not 3 minutes to tip

 

[johnywyo]

I remember reading a quote by Chip Kelly that the 'right culture' is the first step towards a tradition of excellence. With that in mind, no matter what the business, Wyoming's AD including its head honcho, TB -its business as usual for he and his flunkys. There is no excuse for this type of a thread, given the attention to detail thats necessary in any successful culture. I'm hoping for change soon at the office of President and Athletic Director.

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

It was 6:45 or so when I was in line not 3 minutes to tip

6:35 for me, 10 minute wait before we got into doors. Once inside doors, one ticket taker. Makes you want to stay home next time.

 

[tweaked]

Some of you are making mountains out of molehills. Yes, ultimately the AD is responsible for the functioning of all aspects of the athletic program. And I too saw the long line at the east entrance at the UNLV game (we just walked to another entrance and despite there being only one open door there as well got in pretty quickly). When you rely on students heavily for support staff, the holidays present some challenges. So what. Haven’t seen anything like that happen before. I’m sure it will get fixed.

But the bottom line is that Burman is doing well at the most important aspects of his job. First, on hiring coaches, I still cannot believe we landed Bohl. Most people nationally can’t believe it either. And despite not working out the Christensen hire was lauded nationally at the time as well. And, given what transpired when Shyatt left his first tenure, his hire took some gumption and vision as well.

I also believe Burman’s done a pretty good job with fund raising and budgeting: more improvements, of course, are on the horizon, but even as we speak, I’d rather have our facilities than Air Forces, CSUs, and most other MWC facilities. Shortly, I believe our facilities will match well with any program in the MWC. The vision is there. Further, Burman has a role in monitoring teams and players to make sure that they are in compliance with NCCA rules, etc., which incidentally has influenced his choices in hires. Going well there too. Those are the big AD responsibilities and in my opinion he is doing pretty well at all of them.

Look, I get it. Those of you who don’t like Burman will regurgitate the same tired arguments I’ve read on here a hundred times. Bottom line though is UW sports are on an upward trajectory, whether you have the vision to see it or not. It’s been a hard ride, and so I get the pessimism. But that is when is vision is most important. The dynamics are there for an upward trajectory for UW athletics. Don’t f-it-up by switching horses midstream.

Incidentally, there are some of you who dislike Burman who have a very interesting (and biased) attributional tendency: you give Burman absolutely no credit for any of the positives that occur in UW athletics, yet are eager as hell to give him full blame for all the negatives. Hopefully, the UW president, and the next one, ignores you and rides Burman’s horse for another couple years; if he/she does, the fire Burman rants on here will slink away into the sunset as we are all enjoying UW bowl and tourney games. Go Pokes.

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

Thanks Tom for the insight.....

 

[Wyo2dal]

WALL OF TEXT

Pardon me while I blow my nose on that.

Seriously if you think Burman has done a good job you are either Burman or new. We've been on the horizon for 20 years there is no more on the horizon Burman should have been gone a long ass time ago. Sure he is passionate and so was that useless pile of Schoyer.

Fact is " We are getting better " is an excuse, The one chance we had to see UW Athletics shine brighter than it has in 20 years was fired for trying to fix things that have been ignored for 20 years. They are all the small things that have been piling up over the years that are big to us now.

 

[tweaked]

Not new at all, been here before Burman's tenure ... am not Burman, and am not alone. you are a vocal minority, and fortunately the people that matter the most aren't listening. Cowboy athletics horizons are bright; and Burman gets some credit. Blow your nose on that

 

[Wyo2dal]

Not new at all, been here before Burman's tenure ... am not Burman, and am not alone. you are a vocal minority, and fortunately the people that matter the most aren't listening. Cowboy athletics horizons are bright; and Burman gets some credit. Blow your nose on that

If you think people that are unhappy with Burman are the minority I actually feel bad for you. The minority is the people that are happy. The only thing Burman has done even remotely useful is hire a committee to help him hire coaches.

 

[tweaked]

Not new at all, been here before Burman's tenure ... am not Burman, and am not alone. you are a vocal minority, and fortunately the people that matter the most aren't listening. Cowboy athletics horizons are bright; and Burman gets some credit. Blow your nose on that

If you think people that are unhappy with Burman are the minority I actually feel bad for you. The minority is the people that are happy. The only thing Burman has done even remotely useful is hire a committee to help him hire coaches.

Oh don't feel too bad for me wyo2dal ... I'm doing just fine. We must just hang with different people. None of us are feeling sorry for ourselves either. But hey, this is a chat board, right? I hope you can handle a different perspective and don't have a need to think everyone thinks like you. Cheers, happy new year, and most of all, go pokes. The future is looking good, I'm telling ya ... and I'd be happy to chat with you on Jan 2017 if you want to check in and review Burman's job performance again ...

 

[Wyowilly2015]

If Burman actually had a performance review by the people who work with him like the CSU department did he would be working with Jack Graham in Fort Collins selling insurance.

 

[joshvanklomp]

But hey, this is a chat board, right? I hope you can handle a different perspective and don't have a need to think everyone thinks like you.

Unfortunately, here are a number of folks here who can't and won't...at least when it comes to Burman or the Athletics Department as a whole.

 

[billings]

Wyoming may have the best best set of coaches across the board then I have seen in a long time

Volleyball
Basketball
Soccer
Cross Country
Swimming
Wrestling


All these programs were very competitive this year and as a group the most competitive I have seen at UW in a long time