WTE weighs in Mead's proposal for UW athletics

[NebraskaCowboy]

Well that seems like a horrible business plan , each program should at least take care of them selves and with that a school shouldn't make a ton of money off of one program , if anything it should stay in the program it was made from . It seems like money is running the program, or greed .

Football is the sport that brings in the money at most every school to help run all the other sports. It isn't like that is just Wyoming's plan. Not sure if that is what you meant or you think Wyoming is the only school to have this "plan" as you put it in place.

As has been stated before Wyoming already did a very detailed research study on what would happen if Wyoming were to drop to FCS level for football and they found the whole university would lose a lot of money. It was found you would be better off not having a football team at all than dropping down to FCS. So even with a crappy losing FBS team Wyoming as a athletic department and University as a whole is better off than dropping down to FCS or not having a team.

The problem is most people don't look into this and just assume they "know" what they are talking about and spout off and say Wyoming should drop down to FCS when in reality that would be the worst possible thing that the University could do. People need to do some research before they speak and understand what they are saying otherwise they look like fools. Just like the man who wrote the editorial looks like a fool for even writing it but to himself he probably thinks he is a genius. Little does he know.

I mean with all due respect Hampshire, but are you stupid or are you dumb? Great idea in theory, but that doesn't work in college athletics. Football and men's basketball are the two sports at most universities that are profitable which most would expect. However, if they didn't share the money, everything else would fold and lead to huge Title IX issues. This is why revenue is shared and college athletics works the way it does.

 

[wyokoke]

Well that seems like a horrible business plan , each program should at least take care of them selves and with that a school shouldn't make a ton of money off of one program , if anything it should stay in the program it was made from . It seems like money is running the program, or greed .

Football is the sport that brings in the money at most every school to help run all the other sports. It isn't like that is just Wyoming's plan. Not sure if that is what you meant or you think Wyoming is the only school to have this "plan" as you put it in place.

As has been stated before Wyoming already did a very detailed research study on what would happen if Wyoming were to drop to FCS level for football and they found the whole university would lose a lot of money. It was found you would be better off not having a football team at all than dropping down to FCS. So even with a crappy losing FBS team Wyoming as a athletic department and University as a whole is better off than dropping down to FCS or not having a team.

The problem is most people don't look into this and just assume they "know" what they are talking about and spout off and say Wyoming should drop down to FCS when in reality that would be the worst possible thing that the University could do. People need to do some research before they speak and understand what they are saying otherwise they look like fools. Just like the man who wrote the editorial looks like a fool for even writing it but to himself he probably thinks he is a genius. Little does he know.

I mean with all due respect Hampshire, but are you stupid or are you dumb? Great idea in theory, but that doesn't work in college athletics. Football and men's basketball are the two sports at most universities that are profitable which most would expect. However, if they didn't share the money, everything else would fold and lead to huge Title IX issues. This is why revenue is shared and college athletics works the way it does.

And even then the vast majority of Football and Basketball programs operate in the red, other than the elites. The Alabamas, Texas's, etc for football. The Kentuckys, Dukes, and Kansas's of basketball

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Hmm....someone that spouts off about dropping to FCS and turns out to clearly know nothing about how college athletics works, shocking. I don't mean to attack you personally, but it becomes very tiring trying to dissuade such ideas with advanced logic when it turns out they don't even understand the basics yet.

 

[Hampshire]

Gotcha , stay in fbs for the money......get ass kicked by fcs schools. Yes that makes since. Common sense is just weighing me down . I can see this being a big issue at programs that are well known idk about our program . And yes I do not know the in and outs of most college programs , but that don't means it makes since one way or the other.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Better than dropping to FCS and getting our ass kicked there.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

And yes I do not know the in and outs of most college programs , but that don't means it makes since one way or the other.

This sentence for you earlier clearly shows that you don't know the "ins and outs of most college programs".

Well that seems like a horrible business plan , each program should at least take care of them selves and with that a school shouldn't make a ton of money off of one program , if anything it should stay in the program it was made from

This is college sports admin 101, if you don't already know this than you are way behind.

 

[Hampshire]

Yes in that case fcs schools should not be around... how are they running the schools and the programs ? I'll admit I'm behind

 

[WyoBrandX]

FCS operates quite a bit differently. Obviously, they have less money.

One major difference is they only give 63 Football scholarships vs 85 in FBS.

They have a playoff. The FBS playoff is a sham designed to keep money away from most teams.

FCS is on TV more and more, but they don't bring in the big money like the FBS programs.

There is quite a bit more - I just don't recall all the differences - financial and whatnot at the moment.

There almost needs to be a FAQ thread on this topic.

 

[Hampshire]

Yes west wyo poke.......... the s was added without my knowledge. Let's pretend on here that we are not reporter's and writers. ...just pretend.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

My comment had nothing to do with grammar or spelling.

 

[SDPokeFan]

If this budget gets approved Bohl better get ready to win big and win next year. If you think people are going to sit around and tolerate two win seasons with that kind of money being poured into the program you're out of your ever-loving mind. Talk about instant pressure to win now.

 

[Hampshire]

After reading the article its clear that wyo is slacking off of the actual education part of college and forcing money into athlete dept. No money is going to turn the football program around at this point, more seats ya I don't think so . There are a few problems and money isn't going to fix any of them . Wyoming isn't going to get top recruited athletes untill the kids that are here get coached up , when kids see the coaching there then more quality athletes will come just like boise did , they coached less talented kids and won with them .

 

[laxwyo]

Who is this Hampshire fucking guy? Did you write the WTE article?

 

[Wyovanian]

After reading the article its clear that wyo is slacking off of the actual education part of college and forcing money into athlete dept. No money is going to turn the football program around at this point, more seats ya I don't think so . There are a few problems and money isn't going to fix any of them . Wyoming isn't going to get top recruited athletes untill the kids that are here get coached up , when kids see the coaching there then more quality athletes will come just like boise did , they coached less talented kids and won with them .

After careful consideration about how to respond to this, I decided to start contacting any place named Hampshire and advise them their village idiot has figured out the interwebs.

Your interpretation is so simplistic and self-contradicting as to challenge an eight-year-old's take on Ulysses. I probably have laundry smarter than you.

Everyone who read your take on the situation is now dumber for it. Congratulations.

 

[Hampshire]

After reading the article its clear that wyo is slacking off of the actual education part of college and forcing money into athlete dept. No money is going to turn the football program around at this point, more seats ya I don't think so . There are a few problems and money isn't going to fix any of them . Wyoming isn't going to get top recruited athletes untill the kids that are here get coached up , when kids see the coaching there then more quality athletes will come just like boise did , they coached less talented kids and won with them .

After careful consideration about how to respond to this, I decided to start contacting any place named Hampshire and advise them their village idiot has figured out the interwebs.

Your interpretation is so simplistic and self-contradicting as to challenge an eight-year-old's take on Ulysses. I probably have laundry smarter than you.

Everyone who read your take on the situation is now dumber for it. Congratulations.

you have no idea , none .....and I'm going to put out to you a big fu for you and I'm sorry for you. I would say that you shouldn't put on this board what you wouldn't say to someone in person . Again you do not have a clue . Well unless it's about the inner workings of a college financial paper trail .

 

[Wyovanian]

After reading the article its clear that wyo is slacking off of the actual education part of college and forcing money into athlete dept. No money is going to turn the football program around at this point, more seats ya I don't think so . There are a few problems and money isn't going to fix any of them . Wyoming isn't going to get top recruited athletes untill the kids that are here get coached up , when kids see the coaching there then more quality athletes will come just like boise did , they coached less talented kids and won with them .

After careful consideration about how to respond to this, I decided to start contacting any place named Hampshire and advise them their village idiot has figured out the interwebs.

Your interpretation is so simplistic and self-contradicting as to challenge an eight-year-old's take on Ulysses. I probably have laundry smarter than you.

Everyone who read your take on the situation is now dumber for it. Congratulations.

you have no idea , none .....and I'm going to put out to you a big fu for you and I'm sorry for you. I would say that you shouldn't put on this board what you wouldn't say to someone in person . Again you do not have a clue . Well unless it's about the inner workings of a college financial paper trail .

Perhaps, before chiming in with your opinion about anything, you should first make sure you have a fundamental grasp of he subject.

This is an instance where you spoke out of ignorance.

 

[wyokoke]

After reading the article its clear that wyo is slacking off of the actual education part of college and forcing money into athlete dept. No money is going to turn the football program around at this point, more seats ya I don't think so . There are a few problems and money isn't going to fix any of them . Wyoming isn't going to get top recruited athletes untill the kids that are here get coached up , when kids see the coaching there then more quality athletes will come just like boise did , they coached less talented kids and won with them .

After careful consideration about how to respond to this, I decided to start contacting any place named Hampshire and advise them their village idiot has figured out the interwebs.

Your interpretation is so simplistic and self-contradicting as to challenge an eight-year-old's take on Ulysses. I probably have laundry smarter than you.

Everyone who read your take on the situation is now dumber for it. Congratulations.

you have no idea , none .....and I'm going to put out to you a big fu for you and I'm sorry for you. I would say that you shouldn't put on this board what you wouldn't say to someone in person . Again you do not have a clue . Well unless it's about the inner workings of a college financial paper trail .

Yeah wyovanian. You have no clue. Unless it's about the one topic that we're talking about. But you have no clue. SMH, get over yourself dude

 

[WyoBrandX]

Everyone who read your take on the situation is now dumber for it. Congratulations.

Ouch! I was already pretty dumb to begin with. I'm not sure I can afford much more!

I will admit that this is a pretty tough subject to follow unless you completely geek out on athletics. I really think there should be some sort of resource, be it a FAQ, thread, subforum, etc, that outlines much of how this stuff works with reference material to read.

Everyone that has been here for more than a few years knows about the Wyoming FCS study. We also have watched coaches come and go. Having some sort of 'master reference' locally would certainly help many of the newcomers from getting their asses handed to them on this forum.

We all have our opinions on coaches and athletic directors. And we have our opinions on FBS vs FCS. The latter has quite a bit of research and facts backing it up. The former is just our judgement (as fans).

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

After reading the article its clear that wyo is slacking off of the actual education part of college and forcing money into athlete dept. No money is going to turn the football program around at this point, more seats ya I don't think so . There are a few problems and money isn't going to fix any of them . Wyoming isn't going to get top recruited athletes untill the kids that are here get coached up , when kids see the coaching there then more quality athletes will come just like boise did , they coached less talented kids and won with them .

You are an absolute moron! I know for a fact that the academic side is not being slacked off in any way shape or form, only someone who is ignorant or has an axe to grind would make such an unsupportable claim! As a graduate of the University of Wyoming and a member of both the alumni association and the Cowboy Joe Club, if anything the athletic side is being slighted. An incredible number of academic side improvements are being made and have been made. That has been the gripe at Wyoming for years is that past administrations have poured huge amounts into the academic side and left little for the athletic side. Also a fact, and that was for years and years the physical improvements in the athletic side fell way behind other institutions in the conference and that is what Wyoming is trying to overcome, and they are not overcoming it at the expense of the academic side you moron!

Anyone who listens or believes that this moron from Hampshire knows anything about Wyoming they are joking themselves!

 

[Hampshire]

That's ironic because I'm thinking the same thing, who is this moron . Seems like I touched a nerve here but several years ago I would say you are correct but from what I hear from 2 students that I currently am paying to go to school there it must not be what it used to be . And with commits like this I'm questioning why I'm paying them . BTW I'm from the southern part of wyoming .