WORST PRESIDENT EVER FINALLY GONE

[ZapPoke]

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[WestWYOPoke]

Worst... based on what criteria?

If it's just, like your opinion man, that's cool too.

 

[Wyokie]

I have a friend from high school (1992 in OKC) who honestly liked Biden. Thank Gawd I never dated her.

Gawn I hope Trump doesn't make ALL of us regret this.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Worst... based on what criteria?

If it's just, like your opinion man, that's cool too.

Certainly the worst as in most obvious suffering from dementia---from day 1, not just the last 3 months.
Lowest military recruiting of past several presidents.
Border chaos.
Staggering debt and inflation.
Center of crime syndicate evidenced by his pardon actions.

Remarkable how bad he was. I hope Trump doesn't outdo him in this regard.

 

[ZapPoke]

I am not a red MAGA hat wearing guy, but I am cautiously optimistic. My biggest concern is the economy. Trump seems to believe that the primary cause of the inflation we have experienced is due to high energy prices when anyone who took Econ 101 understands that the real cause was out of control government spending/borrowing from the Covid handouts to wasteful green new deal schemes. I truly hope DOGE is successful because our government spends a lot of money on stupid shit.

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Thank God! If anyone thinks Biden was running anything didn’t watch the debate. Many of us saw his mental issues in the 2020 election. It only got worse. I really dont believe he has been in charge.

 

[laxwyo]

I am not a red MAGA hat wearing guy, but I am cautiously optimistic. My biggest concern is the economy. Trump seems to believe that the primary cause of the inflation we have experienced is due to high energy prices when anyone who took Econ 101 understands that the real cause was out of control government spending/borrowing from the Covid handouts to wasteful green new deal schemes. I truly hope DOGE is successful because our government spends a lot of money on stupid shit.

You're definitely right about inflation. We should do everything we can to stop borrowing/printing money and balance the federal budget. However, cheaper energy can definitely reduce the inflationary pressures. If energy became cheaper, we'd all have more money in our pockets and business wouldn't have as much pressure to raise prices.

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Worst... based on what criteria?

If it's just, like your opinion man, that's cool too.

Oh, I don’t know.
Inflation
Record personal credit card debt
Record home foreclosures
High energy costs
Jobs
Record illegal border crossings
Record fentanyl deaths because of the above
Wage declines
There is little doubt in my mind Biden had little respect from foreign leaders because of his mental decline, no doubt actually

To name a few.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Oh, I don’t know.
Inflation

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

Record personal credit card debt

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

Record home foreclosures

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

High energy costs

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

Jobs

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Record illegal border crossings

Probably true

Record fentanyl deaths because of the above

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

Wage declines

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

There is little doubt in my mind Biden had little respect from foreign leaders because of his mental decline, no doubt actually

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.

To name a few.

Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Probably true

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.


Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

Would you trust PBS? You should. Most liberals hail PBS.

U.S. inflation at 9.1 percent, a record high

Surging prices for gas, food and rent catapulted U.S. inflation to a new four-decade peak in June, further pressuring households and likely sealing the case for another large interest rate hike by the Federal Reserve, with higher borrowing costs to follow.

www.pbs.org

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Probably true

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.


Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

How about CBS. They were the ones doctoring Kamalas interview. So reliably in support of the liberal cause.

Americans continue to rack up credit card debt, hitting a record $1.14 trillion

Consumers tacked on an additional $27 billion in credit card spending in the second quarter, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York said.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Probably true

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.


Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

With car repossessions and home foreclosures rising, some Americans are living on a financial cliff

A growing number of Americans have found themselves strapped for cash and looking for financial relief as the U.S. economy slows down.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Probably true

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.


Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

It’s not probably true. It is true. Hedge away. Disingenuous reply at best.

Illegal border crossings from Mexico reach highest on record in December before January lull

U.S. authorities say arrests for illegal border crossings from Mexico reached an all-time high in December since monthly numbers have been released, exposing a growing vulnerability for President Joe Biden in his campaign for a second term.

apnews.com

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Probably true

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.


Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

Make what ever excuse you like. The fact is fentanyl deaths were at all time highs under Biden.

U.S. drug overdose deaths reached all-time high in 2021, CDC says

Fentanyl continues to drive the majority of overdose deaths in the country.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Probably true

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.


Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

Attack the messenger. Do you see most media outlets reporting facts. They don’t. They run interference for Biden Harris, to the point they are being sued.

Americans saw ‘most severe’ pay cut in 25 years under Biden

The Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas calculated “real wages” — the amount of money Americans take home when adjusted for inflation.

nypost.com

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Probably true

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.


Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

Jobs! A monkey could have seen jobs grow after the job losses from “the virus china sent us”.

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Probably true

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.


Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

There! How is that for facts!

Biden will go down as the worst President ever. Worse than the other with a “D”, Carter.

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Inflation was somewhat high for a portion of Biden's presidency. Not anywhere near "record levels" as was purported by conservatives. Recovery from Covid drove prices up, but the US fared better than pretty much every other country. By June 2023 inflation was back down to low to mid 3% and was under 3 for the 2nd half of last year.

True but disingenuous. This goes up every year regardless of President. Trump will likely have the new record by year's end, and the next President will break that, etc.

I want to know where you heard this, because this isn't anywhere close to true. You could say that housing costs went up, sure. But home foreclosures are nowhere near where they were a decade ago. Seriously, wherever you get your information from, this is WAY false. Based on this point, Biden was better than Trump, Obama, and Bush.

Energy costs are higher, true. But a good portion of that is due to inflation.

What about jobs? The US job market under Biden was incredibly strong. Full-time employment rate, unemployment rate, unemployment rate for blacks/whites/Hispanics/Asians, were all at or better than their record levels. Labor force participation rate and employment-population ratio were lower than Obama, but were back to the same levels as Trump's first term by late 2023.

Probably true

The VAST majority of illegal Fentanyl coming across the border is A) brought in by US citizens, not illegals, and B) brought in through port of entries, not ran/swam across the border in the dead of night.

This is another odd one for you to point out. Wage rate increases under Biden were actually the highest they have been in the last 20+ years, and that is excluding the obvious bumps that would come as a result of return to workforce factors post-Covid. In fact, wage increases actually outpaced inflation during Biden's term, but not by much.

I agree that Biden's mental decline was bullshit. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue in his capacity, and him even considering running in 24 was fucking idiotic.

But let's not pretend that the current administration has any respect from any countries. We have become the laughing stock of the world. It's embarrassing.


Some of your points have some merit. Many of the are clearly misinformed by conservative propaganda. He wasn't the greatest President ever, but he was by no means the worst ever.

Now, lastly. We aren’t the laughing stock. Countries have caved to work with us with regard to the trade imbalances. I mean, I like Americans building things Americans buy. You like chinese folks performing those jobs. Iran will be dealt with, not coddled. Countries that are our enemies will take notice that Trump will do what he says. You call that an embarrassment. I call it strength. Ukraine is an example. US taxpayers aren’t footing the bill for the corruption of the money we sent. Trump is taking a hard stance against Russia. There is nothing Trump could do you would support because you like most libs have TDS. If he said O2 was good you guys would all die because you would stop breathing.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Would you trust PBS? You should. Most liberals hail PBS.

U.S. inflation at 9.1 percent, a record high

Surging prices for gas, food and rent catapulted U.S. inflation to a new four-decade peak in June, further pressuring households and likely sealing the case for another large interest rate hike by the Federal Reserve, with higher borrowing costs to follow.

www.pbs.org

Did you even bother to read the article?

"Biggest increase since 1981"

Large increase...yes. Record...no.

 

[Itsux2beaewe]

Did you even bother to read the article?

"Biggest increase since 1981"

Large increase...yes. Record...no.

I’ll use your response. “Probably true”……….Bwahahahahaha

But, you like the highest inflation in 50 years. Who was President in 1981? Hmmm, who was it.