Wonder where this article got its momentum?

[McPeachy]

Or should I say...what bunch of douchebags gave this article momentum?

http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2009/12/03/sports/19sports_12-03-09.txt

Last thing UW needs is a bunch people that call themselves "fans" that are really of the non-ticket-buying-negative-glass-half-empty dickwads.

 

[gopokes1399]

i dont think a bowl game is as much a money getter as it is an extra game, and practices as well as playing for a trophy boosting recruiting and building a program sure we will get some money but i dont think coming up with money has been much of an issue giving our facilities and renovations

 

[cheypoke]

Thats how I see it. An extra game against a decent team. Plus the game is nationally televised on a saturday afternoon. While people may say, "its just the New Mexico Bowl", its the only bowl on that day, so there will be people watching. Beat Fresno, and people back east will at least have Wyoming in the back of their minds for a while.

 

[Dread_Pirate_Cowboy]

Wahoo! Its an extra game in a warmer local. I'm actually pretty sure Wyoming makes just as much whether or not we actually play in a bowl game. If I remember correctly, MWC bowl teams get enough from the bowls to cover their expenses then the rest, if there is any, gets split up amoung the 9 conference members. Wyo has to sell 4000 tickets to cover the cost of the 6000 ticket allotment....that is a great deal. Other bowls have much higher requirements. Don't be a cranky old bastard and not be able to accept a good thing when it comes. Heck, even if the team lost money, big deal....no different than having a swim team, soccer team, etc., that always lose money.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Not to mention that since the bowl money is shared among all conference members, how much would we bitch if three teams decided not to go because it was "too expensive?" Wyoming's been benefitting from the free bowl money all those years they didn't go to a bowl, and now that we can go, some people think we shouldn't go - and thereby we wouldn't actually put our own money into the pot. All taking, no giving... that sounds pretty selfish, no?

 

[Snowman_55]

I don't even understand why people are complaining....Last time I checked even in the era of 50 million bowl games a year Wyoming hasn't been successful enough to go to many. The Vegas Bowl was a blast (obviously the setting didn't hurt), but the fact that we are going bowling is exciting enough. I know I will be there and partying it up a little! People need to be more positive. I am the first to admit that I said we needed to beat one of the top 25 teams to consider this a really successful season (to be honest anything less than a MWC championship isn't a truly successful season), BUT we just went 6-6, finshed 5th in the MWC (far better than the last place finish where we were picked) in the first year of the DC era; and did it with a group of freshman leading the way. All positives, and bodes well for the future. Its a chance for a few more weeks of practice, and a way for the team to celebrate the season, and HELL its another game. I have to question how much anyone really cares about football if they are complaining about the opportunity to have another game. So what if its not a big name bowl, its another game, and a chance to party it up with other Pokes fans!!!

Go Pokes!!!

 

[WYCowboy]

Or should I say...what bunch of douchebags gave this article momentum?

http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2009/12/03/sports/19sports_12-03-09.txt

Last thing UW needs is a bunch people that call themselves "fans" that are really of the non-ticket-buying-negative-glass-half-empty dickwads.

This bowl and most of the MWC bowls are more about exposure and recruiting than money. If you listen to Gov. Freudenthal, you would think the State of Wyoming is bankrupt. I remember very well our legislators rat-holing money for many, many years into so many hidden fund accounts that they probably can't even remember where they all are. I'm not saying we should be fiscially irresponsible, but this state is so tight with it's money it squeaks. Look at states like California and Illinois - they don't seem to be turning down bowl games and I don't see them closing down their universities. Gags is about the most negative writer around in the State of Wyoming when it comes to writing about UW.

 

[Poke Around]

The story does a good job of saying the bowl game isn't going to cost Wyoming anything so if you want to whine about that you're out of luck. It's a positive to go to the bowl so enjoy it.
congrats to the writer for addressing the issue.

 

[Cheywypoke]

I agree, I didn't really think Gagliardi's article was that negative. In fact, I thought he was kind of showing how stupid the people making the negative comments where.
Having read most of the negative threads on the other board, I think there's more going on than just people wanting to be negative. (Although I think that's part of it. I think if you gave some of those guys on the other board $1 million in cash they would bitch because you didn't give them a check.)
I think one poster in particular, judging by some of the things he's written, is actually a big Joe Glenn fan and is trying to downgrade Christensen's bowl game. JG's been gone longer than a year now and this guy still has a picture of him on his avatar.

 

[COS Cowboy]

One thing I don't get, if it costs more than $750,000 to go to New Mexico and play a Football game, how do we make it for a regular season road trip? Do we go in the hole every time we play the lobos? Surely they don't pay us $750,000 to come down there. I thought we only paid Texas $200,000 to come to Laramie this year, they were going to pay us the same to go down there next year, and the third game was a $950,000 payday. If we can make this work in the regular season, why is it so hard in the post season?

 

[zappinpoke]

One thing I don't get, if it costs more than $750,000 to go to New Mexico and play a Football game, how do we make it for a regular season road trip? Do we go in the hole every time we play the lobos? Surely they don't pay us $750,000 to come down there. I thought we only paid Texas $200,000 to come to Laramie this year, they were going to pay us the same to go down there next year, and the third game was a $950,000 payday. If we can make this work in the regular season, why is it so hard in the post season?

The travel costs go up cause the team is there for a longer period, plus the team takes a larger contingent with them for a bowl game. The team also has to sell x amount of tickets or eat the difference.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

One thing I don't get, if it costs more than $750,000 to go to New Mexico and play a Football game, how do we make it for a regular season road trip? Do we go in the hole every time we play the lobos? Surely they don't pay us $750,000 to come down there. I thought we only paid Texas $200,000 to come to Laramie this year, they were going to pay us the same to go down there next year, and the third game was a $950,000 payday. If we can make this work in the regular season, why is it so hard in the post season?

The travel costs go up cause the team is there for a longer period, plus the team takes a larger contingent with them for a bowl game. The team also has to sell x amount of tickets or eat the difference.

We only have to sell 4,000 tickets. It'd be pretty pathetic if we couldn't do that. Also, the money coming in from other schools' bowls should be enough to cover the costs pretty much.

 

[COS Cowboy]

One thing I don't get, if it costs more than $750,000 to go to New Mexico and play a Football game, how do we make it for a regular season road trip? Do we go in the hole every time we play the lobos? Surely they don't pay us $750,000 to come down there. I thought we only paid Texas $200,000 to come to Laramie this year, they were going to pay us the same to go down there next year, and the third game was a $950,000 payday. If we can make this work in the regular season, why is it so hard in the post season?

The travel costs go up cause the team is there for a longer period, plus the team takes a larger contingent with them for a bowl game. The team also has to sell x amount of tickets or eat the difference.

We only have to sell 4,000 tickets. It'd be pretty pathetic if we couldn't do that. Also, the money coming in from other schools' bowls should be enough to cover the costs pretty much.

So, if tickets are $30 each, and we have to sell 4,000 of them to break even, that tells me that the ticket allotment cost $120,000. Not chump change by any means, but it doesn't seem to eat into the $750k much. How much longer does the team stay vs. a regular road game? Seems to me like it would be hard to lose money on this one.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Or should I say...what bunch of douchebags gave this article momentum?

http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2009/12/03/sports/19sports_12-03-09.txt

Last thing UW needs is a bunch people that call themselves "fans" that are really of the non-ticket-buying-negative-glass-half-empty dickwads.

This bowl and most of the MWC bowls are more about exposure and recruiting than money. If you listen to Gov. Freudenthal, you would think the State of Wyoming is bankrupt. I remember very well our legislators rat-holing money for many, many years into so many hidden fund accounts that they probably can't even remember where they all are. I'm not saying we should be fiscially irresponsible, but this state is so tight with it's money it squeaks. Look at states like California and Illinois - they don't seem to be turning down bowl games and I don't see them closing down their universities. Gags is about the most negative writer around in the State of Wyoming when it comes to writing about UW.

It may have something to do with the Great Depression. It hit the country in 1933 or 32. IN Wyoming, it hit in 1924. There was nothing. So I think that may be for all the "rainy day accounts."

 

[COS Cowboy]

The travel costs go up cause the team is there for a longer period, plus the team takes a larger contingent with them for a bowl game. The team also has to sell x amount of tickets or eat the difference.

We only have to sell 4,000 tickets. It'd be pretty pathetic if we couldn't do that. Also, the money coming in from other schools' bowls should be enough to cover the costs pretty much.[/quote]


Got this from the other board, but I think I saw teh same thing from the CJC.

New Mexico Bowl Game Information (12/19 at 2:35pm):

· Tickets are $30 each, available now

· Wednesday, December 16th - Team will depart for Albuquerque

· Thursday, December 17th ? Team Practices

· Friday, December 18th ? Official Wyoming Pep Rally @ Coaches

· Saturday, December 19th ? Official Wyoming Tailgate @ FANFEST; Kick-Off 2:35pm

Doesn't look like they're leaving early, isn't a Wednesday departure pretty normal for a Saturday game? It doesn't say when they leave, but I have a hard time believing it's much past Sunday. As far as a larger contingent, I'm sure we'll bring the band, cheerleaders and Cowboy Joe. Don't know how much extra that costs, but it's not unheard of for them to bring them to regular conference games.

Don't mean to pick on anyone, but other than the ticket allotment, I just don't see how this costs so much more than a typical road game.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Don't mean to pick on anyone, but other than the ticket allotment, I just don't see how this costs so much more than a typical road game.

Not to mention that if Cowboys sell MORE than 4k tickets, that will actually amount to money coming in rather than as an expense. Sure Albuquerque's not Vegas, but I seriously think we could have 10k people showing up. It's a freaking bowl game, after all!

 

[calpoke25]

Doesn't look like they're leaving early, isn't a Wednesday departure pretty normal for a Saturday game? It doesn't say when they leave, but I have a hard time believing it's much past Sunday. As far as a larger contingent, I'm sure we'll bring the band, cheerleaders and Cowboy Joe. Don't know how much extra that costs, but it's not unheard of for them to bring them to regular conference games.

Don't mean to pick on anyone, but other than the ticket allotment, I just don't see how this costs so much more than a typical road game.

Teams leave on Friday for a Saturday road game... school gets in the way of that. Maybe on a cross-country trip the team would leave on the Thursday before the game, but never Wednesday.

 

[calpoke25]

Not to mention that if Cowboys sell MORE than 4k tickets, that will actually amount to money coming in rather than as an expense. Sure Albuquerque's not Vegas, but I seriously think we could have 10k people showing up. It's a freaking bowl game, after all!

I think we should get 10k fairly easily to the NM Bowl. Its a reasonable drive form the majority of our fan base.

CSU sold out their allotment of 6000 last year, plus about another 1-2K. We should top that.

 

[The Road]

Pretty interesting topic.

Here are my thoughts:

http://cowboyaltitude.blogspot.com/2009/12/should-wyoming-turn-down-bowl-bid.html

Go Pokes!