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Why not us?

A state smaller than a lot of cities population wise. That's the kicker. If Wyoming had a population comparable to Colorado, or even Utah, then yeah, we would be more in line. As it is though, we're not.
 
fromolwyoming said:
A state smaller than a lot of cities population wise. That's the kicker. If Wyoming had a population comparable to Colorado, or even Utah, then yeah, we would be more in line. As it is though, we're not.
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Yeah, I remember Wyokie telling me he considered Casper and its population of 60K a "city" in Wyoming. 60K people share a 2-bedroom apartment in New York.
 
Small budget. Small student population. Average 20K attendance at best. Entire viewership equals Albuquerque, NM. In other words, we have a more likely chance of being relegated to FCS than being promoted to P5.

Our question shouldn't be "why not us", but "why is it necessary". In other words, why do we accept a system in which rich and popular are the criteria for success? A system that clearly discriminates based on wealth and won't even allow competition unless you are rich enough or popular enough. Not only that, the system is funded by our federal government and our state governments. It is mind boggling that it is even allowed.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Small budget. Small student population. Average 20K attendance at best. Entire viewership equals Albuquerque, NM. In other words, we have a more likely chance of being relegated to FCS than being promoted to P5.

Our question shouldn't be "why not us", but "why is it necessary". In other words, why do we accept a system in which rich and popular are the criteria for success? A system that clearly discriminates based on wealth and won't even allow competition unless you are rich enough or popular enough. Not only that, the system is funded by our federal government and our state governments. It is mind boggling that it is even allowed.
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A couple things here I want to comment on.

Yes the system is F***** and does indeed discriminate towards the G5 and favor the P5, but our college football team isn't going to gain anything by being the politically superior 99%ers and occupying Wall Street.

Just because we aren't "in" with the cool kids doesn't mean we need to say "why do we even want to be there". It is pretty obvious as to the benefits of being in the P5.

The question should not be "why not us" but it also should not be "why is it necessary". It should be "how do we get there?".
 
BeaverPoke said:
The question should not be "why not us" but it also should not be "why is it necessary". It should be "how do we get there?".
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Personally, I disagree Beaver and think "inclusion" per se is a weak argument. I don't think it is a strong argument to say "it doesn't matter that we have a small market but we deserve more of a share of the revenue". I just don't believe that we will ever win that.

However, I think the position of "all we ask the opportunity to compete in the highest level of college football and by compete we mean have legitimate chances of the playoff, expanding the playoff for more opportunity, and oversight in fair scheduling practices. All we are asking is the continued opportunity to work hard and succeed. Just because we aren't as popular, do not come from an "aristocratic family", and aren't wealthy doesn't mean we should be excluded from competition--especially among federally funded institutions."

In other words, why is it even necessary to be part of the P5 to compete, have fair schedules, etc.? After all, you can not criticize our perceived weak schedules and then not agree to schedule us in a fair manner (i.e. home and home).
 
Every professional sport has a mechanism to promote parity amongst the different teams/cities. There should be something in college football
 
Look no further than the ncaa. They could and should straighten this mess out, but they are playing favorites and are more than likely getting paid for it.
 
laxwyo said:
Every professional sport has a mechanism to promote parity amongst the different teams/cities. There should be something in college football
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Technically, the scholarship limit should do that somewhat. Also, those are leagues specifically for selling a sports product. CFB is supposed to be student athlete and education first. That is quite a bit different than pro sports.

Besides, we will never win the debate for more revenue. The best we can hope for is to mold the system to one that at least allows us access to revenue if we are successful.
 
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