CheyenneGunslinger
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his wife to be to the point it's all over the news everyday? I as an American don't care or give a hoot about those two people. They are nothing but high class welfare recipients.
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Why are we Americans enamored by Harry and
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fromolwyoming
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Yeah, "nothing but welfare recipients"....
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/655658/Prince-William-air-ambulance-Jim-Schembri-tree-surgeon-rescue-Army-banter-Essex
Totally did nothing of note...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/21/prince-harry-afghanistan
Its not like he's done more in active service then the entire Trump family ever has. Has actually helped people personally. Served with honor and distinction. A major philanthropist.
CheyenneGunslinger
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fromolwyoming said:
Yeah, "nothing but welfare recipients"....
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/655658/Prince-William-air-ambulance-Jim-Schembri-tree-surgeon-rescue-Army-banter-Essex
Totally did nothing of note...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/21/prince-harry-afghanistan
Its not like he's done more in active service then the entire Trump family ever has. Has actually helped people personally. Served with honor and distinction. A major philanthropist.
Yeah, but Harry and the Royal family are in a position to be able to do things of a charitable nature because they will never have to work for a living. It's very easy for them to play the philanthropist role because they have no job or need of one.
As far as Donald Trump is concerned, he has done more for me personally than any other president in my lifetime. My 401K is out the top this year. I've made at least 3 times more this year from my 401K than any year under Obama. So Trump has been very good to me. Prince Harry on the other hand has not done one thing for me.
fromolwyoming
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And not one thing about him actually serving in the military? Anything to make your argument look good, I guess.
Well good for you on your 401k! Thanks to Trumpy, my insurance jumped up to the point where I had to go with a plan with less benefits. But a higher deductible. And still paying the same amount as before.
Thanks to Obama, I was actually able to get insurance, because prior, I was turned down several times due to pre-existing issues.
Thanks to the greedy fucks that call themselves GOP in Washington DC, they won't even bother looking at something to substitute Obamacare with, despite whining and complaining about it for 8 years and continuously failing to repeal it earlier in the year. But, push a bill for lower taxes for rich people, and all of a sudden, they have no problem gutting it. With Trumpy's full approval.
Well good for you on your 401k! Thanks to Trumpy, my insurance jumped up to the point where I had to go with a plan with less benefits. But a higher deductible. And still paying the same amount as before.
Thanks to Obama, I was actually able to get insurance, because prior, I was turned down several times due to pre-existing issues.
Thanks to the greedy fucks that call themselves GOP in Washington DC, they won't even bother looking at something to substitute Obamacare with, despite whining and complaining about it for 8 years and continuously failing to repeal it earlier in the year. But, push a bill for lower taxes for rich people, and all of a sudden, they have no problem gutting it. With Trumpy's full approval.
laxwyo
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I don’t see how anyone can make an argument using Trumps military record when Clinton did same and Obama literally just knocked on doors before he became president. The “But Trump” answer to everything is getting old and show a complete lack of intellectual capacity. Isn’t this the same kid that wore a swastika armband? But not that he’s marrying a light skinned mixed race woman, the liberal fuckheads are fighting to get in on the circle jerk. Back to the original thought, people like British monarchy for the same reason they like the Kardashians, they’re idiots.
“Well good for you on your 401k! Thanks to Trumpy, my insurance jumped up to the point where I had to go with a plan with less benefits. But a higher deductible. And still paying the same amount as before” guess what happened to my work provided healthcare after Obamacare? Yup, had to go to a high deductible plan with heathcare saving account. Whether or not that was because of Obamacare or not is debatable but certainly suspicious since ours was considered a cadallic plan
“Well good for you on your 401k! Thanks to Trumpy, my insurance jumped up to the point where I had to go with a plan with less benefits. But a higher deductible. And still paying the same amount as before” guess what happened to my work provided healthcare after Obamacare? Yup, had to go to a high deductible plan with heathcare saving account. Whether or not that was because of Obamacare or not is debatable but certainly suspicious since ours was considered a cadallic plan
CheyenneGunslinger
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fromolwyoming said:
Well, I emphazie with you about your insurance. But I pay at least $300 + per month and I retired from a company that has good insurance benefits. My supplemental premiums alone of slightly over $200
per month. So, it's not like I'm getting off Scott free either.
ItSucksToBeACSURam
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'PokeForLife
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ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Haha :rofl: :rofl:
LanderPoke
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Trump has the economy humming. Best president in 50 years! here's to another prosperous year.
WestWYOPoke
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If the economy is "humming" as you say, then why are they screwing with it with this tax bill? Shouldn't they just let it be...
On a side note, the economy has been humming for the last 3+ years, so to suggest that it is all thanks to the current administration is a bit of a stretch.
On a side note, the economy has been humming for the last 3+ years, so to suggest that it is all thanks to the current administration is a bit of a stretch.
CheyenneGunslinger
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WestWYOPoke said:
The economy has been dragging along for three years. Under Trump the economy has sky rocketed. The Dow broke something like 70 records under Trump. So, no way do I think the previous administration had anything to do with this rise in the economy.
Asmodeanreborn
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I mean, percentages are pretty misleading, but if you look at the stock market and unemployment graphs over the past 5 years, they've both been pretty straight lines - nothing's changed from one administration to the next (yet) in that regard.
I wish my income rose as fast as the stock market, but I'm not an investor. I'm probably coming out on top with these new tax cuts, but I'm worried that we essentially drilled a hole in the boat to get some water. Cutting taxes to spur growth is something you typically do when things are going bad - having them already cut when things start heading south sucks, because now you don't have a margin anymore.
We were likely already under the Laffer Curve as well, as far as tax pressure goes.
I wish my income rose as fast as the stock market, but I'm not an investor. I'm probably coming out on top with these new tax cuts, but I'm worried that we essentially drilled a hole in the boat to get some water. Cutting taxes to spur growth is something you typically do when things are going bad - having them already cut when things start heading south sucks, because now you don't have a margin anymore.
We were likely already under the Laffer Curve as well, as far as tax pressure goes.
CheyenneGunslinger
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LanderPoke said:
AMEN to that. Looking for my 2020 ballot now.
CheyenneGunslinger
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CowboyNV said:
Well, if a trained orangutan could have done the same thing with this economy, why didn't Obama do the same as Trump.
fromolwyoming
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/12/14/comparing-the-trump-economy-to-the-obama-economy/
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-neither-obamas-nor-trumps-economy-2017-12-11
You know, a simple google search would show just how flawed the whole "Trump is bestest for economics ev4r!" thing is. Particularly if you look at almost any site BESIDES Fox or Breitbart.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-neither-obamas-nor-trumps-economy-2017-12-11
You know, a simple google search would show just how flawed the whole "Trump is bestest for economics ev4r!" thing is. Particularly if you look at almost any site BESIDES Fox or Breitbart.
Asmodeanreborn
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CheyenneGunslinger said:
Obama already did do it.
Unemployment:
African American Unemployment:
GDP Growth:
Dow Industrial:
In other words, no economic trends have really changed under Trump yet. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about the stock market either, since largely growth in the stock market only provides a big payout for the people who have a lot of stock and can also reap its gains at a ridiculously low tax rate, as opposed to those among us who do actual work. How the DOW does says nothing about how the average American is faring. Plenty of middle class Americans saw ZERO benefit from the stock markets soaring under the last few years of Obama's administration. I think the best evidence of this is how many people didn't even realize the stock markets were doing awesome... they only noticed that their own pay checks had not been getting bigger.
The recent tax reform only gives money to the people who already had it, and who also didn't really spend it. I think it'll ultimately lead to yet another recession, and will be used as an excuse to cut social services, veteran benefits, and education funding.
Asmodeanreborn said:CheyenneGunslinger said:
Obama already did do it.
Unemployment:
African American Unemployment:
GDP Growth:
Dow Industrial:
In other words, no economic trends have really changed under Trump yet. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about the stock market either, since largely growth in the stock market only provides a big payout for the people who have a lot of stock and can also reap its gains at a ridiculously low tax rate, as opposed to those among us who do actual work. How the DOW does says nothing about how the average American is faring. Plenty of middle class Americans saw ZERO benefit from the stock markets soaring under the last few years of Obama's administration. I think the best evidence of this is how many people didn't even realize the stock markets were doing awesome... they only noticed that their own pay checks had not been getting bigger.
The recent tax reform only gives money to the people who already had it, and who also didn't really spend it. I think it'll ultimately lead to yet another recession, and will be used as an excuse to cut social services, veteran benefits, and education funding.
Careful, people like Cheyenne Gunslinger hate facts. It fucks up their distorted view of the world.
