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Can you name one woman who wants to compete in male swimming? Or tennis? Or golf? One! There’s a reason it’s going one way!

Except it's not going one way, that's just a false assumption on your part.

Chris Mosier - International Triathlon
Schulyer Bailar - Harvard Swimming
Mack Beggs - Wrestling - assigned female and birth and wanted to compete as a male, but wasn't allowed. Even deferred taking testosterone treatments so as to not be perceived as cheating.
Ness Murby - paraolympian in discus and javelin

It took me a grand total of 30 seconds to find these names, I'm sure there are more. While it's likely true that there are more trans women than trans men competing in higher level sports, there are plenty of both.
 
WestWYOPoke said:
Can you name one woman who wants to compete in male swimming? Or tennis? Or golf? One! There’s a reason it’s going one way!

Except it's not going one way, that's just a false assumption on your part.

Chris Mosier - International Triathlon
Schulyer Bailar - Harvard Swimming
Mack Beggs - Wrestling - assigned female and birth and wanted to compete as a male, but wasn't allowed. Even deferred taking testosterone treatments so as to not be perceived as cheating.
Ness Murby - paraolympian in discus and javelin

It took me a grand total of 30 seconds to find these names, I'm sure there are more. While it's likely true that there are more trans women than trans men competing in higher level sports, there are plenty of both.

Schulyers info below is very telling;

Schuyler Bailar was the first-ever transgender person to play on an NCAA Division One men's team. After expressing concerns about finishing last in every race in 2016, Bailar ended his swimming career at Harvard in the top 13% in the country in the men's breaststroke.

I don’t agree with your premise “there are plenty of both”.

But, you didn’t mention anything about the elephant in the room. Why are dems silent when narratives they champion don’t fit their narrative? I’ve named a few examples. Tara Reade as an example. Your group always goes after Trump as a $exual abuser, but nary a word about Biden and Tara Reade, or when Biden exposed himself
to female secret service. I find that hypocritical and really shows it’s not any of those things dems really care about, when it doesn’t fit their narrative. Hunter Bidens lying on a federal firearm application. Again, not a word mentioned.
 
Itsux2beaewe said:
WestWYOPoke said:
Except it's not going one way, that's just a false assumption on your part.

Chris Mosier - International Triathlon
Schulyer Bailar - Harvard Swimming
Mack Beggs - Wrestling - assigned female and birth and wanted to compete as a male, but wasn't allowed. Even deferred taking testosterone treatments so as to not be perceived as cheating.
Ness Murby - paraolympian in discus and javelin

It took me a grand total of 30 seconds to find these names, I'm sure there are more. While it's likely true that there are more trans women than trans men competing in higher level sports, there are plenty of both.

Schulyers info below is very telling;

Schuyler Bailar was the first-ever transgender person to play on an NCAA Division One men's team. After expressing concerns about finishing last in every race in 2016, Bailar ended his swimming career at Harvard in the top 13% in the country in the men's breaststroke.

I don’t agree with your premise “there are plenty of both”.

But, you didn’t mention anything about the elephant in the room. Why are dems silent when narratives they champion don’t fit their narrative? I’ve named a few examples. Tara Reade as an example. Your group always goes after Trump as a $exual abuser, but nary a word about Biden and Tara Reade, or when Biden exposed himself
to female secret service. I find that hypocritical and really shows it’s not any of those things dems really care about, when it doesn’t fit their narrative. Hunter Bidens lying on a federal firearm application. Again, not a word mentioned.

I'm guessing you don't have a ton of liberal viewpoints or opinions in your daily life. Even if you do, I've heard several Democrats state that if Hunter Biden broke the law he should be held accountable. Similarly, if Biden (or anyone R or D) sexually assaulted someone, it should be investigated and prosecuted when appropriate.

The big difference between the 2 is that Trump has actually been found guilty of sexual assault, Biden has not.
 
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WestWYOPoke said:
Itsux2beaewe said:
Schulyers info below is very telling;

Schuyler Bailar was the first-ever transgender person to play on an NCAA Division One men's team. After expressing concerns about finishing last in every race in 2016, Bailar ended his swimming career at Harvard in the top 13% in the country in the men's breaststroke.

I don’t agree with your premise “there are plenty of both”.

But, you didn’t mention anything about the elephant in the room. Why are dems silent when narratives they champion don’t fit their narrative? I’ve named a few examples. Tara Reade as an example. Your group always goes after Trump as a $exual abuser, but nary a word about Biden and Tara Reade, or when Biden exposed himself
to female secret service. I find that hypocritical and really shows it’s not any of those things dems really care about, when it doesn’t fit their narrative. Hunter Bidens lying on a federal firearm application. Again, not a word mentioned.

I'm guessing you don't have a ton of liberal viewpoints or opinions in your daily life. Even if you do, I've heard several Democrats state that if Hunter Biden broke the law he should be held accountable. Similarly, if Biden (or anyone R or D) the deed assaulted someone, it should be investigated and prosecuted when appropriate.

The big difference between the 2 is that Trump has actually been found guilty of the deed assault, Biden has not.

I have too many liberal viewpoints confronting me everyday. How do you think I see the hypocrisy. Liberalism is all around us. Slapping me in the face, not daily, every minute. You can’t live in this society and avoid it.

But…….what about the liberal talking point, all women should be believed. Not if it’s a liberal. Me Too……….
 
WestWYOPoke said:
Can you name one woman who wants to compete in male swimming? Or tennis? Or golf? One! There’s a reason it’s going one way!

Except it's not going one way, that's just a false assumption on your part.

Chris Mosier - International Triathlon
Schulyer Bailar - Harvard Swimming
Mack Beggs - Wrestling - assigned female and birth and wanted to compete as a male, but wasn't allowed. Even deferred taking testosterone treatments so as to not be perceived as cheating.
Ness Murby - paraolympian in discus and javelin

It took me a grand total of 30 seconds to find these names, I'm sure there are more. While it's likely true that there are more trans women than trans men competing in higher level sports, there are plenty of both.

did you just use "assigned female at birth" unironically? lol
 
ragtimejoe1 said:

Got it. You agree with promoting se.x.ua. lity to elementary kids and allowing males to beat females in women's sports.

We fundamentally disagree.

Well one sport has figured this out and stood up against the liberal ideology that men in women’s sports somehow makes sense.


NXXT GOLF GOT IT RIGHT!!

After a male identifying as female won!

“Effective immediately, competitors must be a biological female at birth to participate,” NXXT said in a statement. “This decision underscores the organization’s commitment to maintaining the integrity of women’s professional golf and ensuring fair competition.”
NXXT Golf CEO Stuart McKinnon added that the move demonstrates the league’s “commitment” to protecting women’s sports.
 
WestWYOPoke said:
Can you name one woman who wants to compete in male swimming? Or tennis? Or golf? One! There’s a reason it’s going one way!

Except it's not going one way, that's just a false assumption on your part.

Chris Mosier - International Triathlon
Schulyer Bailar - Harvard Swimming
Mack Beggs - Wrestling - assigned female and birth and wanted to compete as a male, but wasn't allowed. Even deferred taking testosterone treatments so as to not be perceived as cheating.
Ness Murby - paraolympian in discus and javelin

It took me a grand total of 30 seconds to find these names, I'm sure there are more. While it's likely true that there are more trans women than trans men competing in higher level sports, there are plenty of both.

NAIA disagrees with you by unanimous decision 19-0.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
WestWYOPoke said:
Except it's not going one way, that's just a false assumption on your part.

Chris Mosier - International Triathlon
Schulyer Bailar - Harvard Swimming
Mack Beggs - Wrestling - assigned female and birth and wanted to compete as a male, but wasn't allowed. Even deferred taking testosterone treatments so as to not be perceived as cheating.
Ness Murby - paraolympian in discus and javelin

It took me a grand total of 30 seconds to find these names, I'm sure there are more. While it's likely true that there are more trans women than trans men competing in higher level sports, there are plenty of both.

NAIA disagrees with you by unanimous decision 19-0.
Disagrees with me on what? I haven't stated an opinion on here regarding trans athletes and whether they should or shouldn't be allowed to compete.
 
WestWYOPoke said:
ragtimejoe1 said:
NAIA disagrees with you by unanimous decision 19-0.
Disagrees with me on what? I haven't stated an opinion on here regarding trans athletes and whether they should or shouldn't be allowed to compete.

Do you support men competing against women?
 
WestWYOPoke said:
This is such a boogie man for the right. Let me let you in on a secret: No one...NO ONE...is changing their gender in order to win at sports. Plus, who the f-word cares, my guess is it doesn't affect you or anyone you know, so why get your undies in a twist.

NAIA disagrees with you. 19-0.
 
Disagrees with me on what? I haven't stated an opinion on here regarding trans athletes and whether they should or shouldn't be allowed to compete.
So what's your take? XY competing in women's sports is ok? Do you support what's going on in Olympic women's boxing?
 
So what's your take? XY competing in women's sports is ok? Do you support what's going on in Olympic women's boxing?
You've got to stop reacting to every dog whistle. Imane Khelif is from Algeria, where cross dressing, sex changes, and homosexuality are illegal. She was born a woman and has female reproductive organs. A blood test determined that she has XY chromosomes, a condition known as Swyer syndrome.

A more fair question here is would be you ok with forcing women to compete in men's sports because of a blood test?
 
You've got to stop reacting to every dog whistle. Imane Khelif is from Algeria, where cross dressing, sex changes, and homosexuality are illegal. She was born a woman and has female reproductive organs. A blood test determined that she has XY chromosomes, a condition known as Swyer syndrome.

A more fair question here is would be you ok with forcing women to compete in men's sports because of a blood test?
Let's see the full hormonal workup. Swyer syndrome would only be gonadal streaks and the hormone profile would reflect that.
 
So what's your take? XY competing in women's sports is ok? Do you support what's going on in Olympic women's boxing?
Everyone thoroughly enjoyed watching a woman getting punched out by a guy, yes a guy, in 46 seconds. Great entertainment. Unless you’re the girl getting punched by the guy. It was gross. How does anyone defend this and think it’s okay. What’s wrong with people? It’s sick!! The dude was banned from the 2023 world championships.

From NBC, Khelif was disqualified from the 2023 world championships after failing an unspecified gender eligibility test,
 
So what's your take? XY competing in women's sports is ok? Do you support what's going on in Olympic women's boxing?
Wyo1016 explained it well. She was born with female genitalia, raised as a female, AND competed in the 2020 Olympics as a female where she lost in the quarterfinals. No one complained about it then.

The problem is looking at this in black and white. For the vast majority of people sex is one or the other, but it is not universally binary, there are exceptions.
 
Wyo1016 explained it well. She was born with female genitalia, raised as a female, AND competed in the 2020 Olympics as a female where she lost in the quarterfinals. No one complained about it then.

The problem is looking at this in black and white. For the vast majority of people sex is one or the other, but it is not universally binary, there are exceptions.
Ok, explain how a Swyer patient had elevated testosterone. Why no testo measurement at the Olympics?
 

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