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Which Assistants should we try and keep?

PotatoCreekPete

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I am not one who thinks that all of the assistants should be shown the door along with Christensen. Christensen is gone and I wish him the best, but I care about Wyoming more. Back to the assistants, I have 3 that I really like and I hope that they stay, 1 that I am on the fence about and 4 that I hope go with Christensen. People are welcome to disagree, but I am just throwing out the names:

Hope they stay: Jamar Cain, Jason Gesser and Renaldo Hill. I feel all of these guys are truly gifted coaches and with the right HC can really help out the football program with their recruiting and player development.

On the fence: Pete Kaligis. He has done some really good things with the OL, but there have also been some problems. I have liked his recruiting as I believe he brought Olive here and I would hate to see him leave.

Good luck on a different staff: Jim Harding, Robin Ross, Nick Danielson and Derek Sage. The WR's have been a huge disappointment this year under Sage. I thought that we had a really good WR group this year but they never developed and became a huge liability as they couldn't get open against decent defenses and made it incredibly difficult on Brett to throw the ball. Special teams was also a disappointment, as funky things were tried and nothing ever developed and we gave up so many big plays on runbacks over the years it wasn't funny....for the last 5 years, special teams were anything but special.

I am not scared about what the future will bring as some are. Some of the things that Christensen has done has greatly improved the football program but they did not translate to improved performance on the field. Some of the areas that I feel Christensen and his staff fell down on was recruiting and player development. I do feel that we were fed a big bag of cow droppings about the improved recruiting year after year by Christensen and his staff. While I feel there were some gems in the classes, overall, the staff failed to recruit a top notch breakaway WR. We had a lot of guys who had nice hands and ran good routes but failed to have the quickness and speed to keep defenses honest. I also feel that the staff failed to recruit a take charge defensive lineman or a real threat at RB. We have some nice LB's and DE's and an outstanding QB and decent offensive linemen, and acouple of decent DB's but there was no real depth and player development and after 5 years a good coach will have these things in place and not make excuses about a lack of depth.
 
PotatoCreekPete said:
I am not one who thinks that all of the assistants should be shown the door along with Christensen. Christensen is gone and I wish him the best, but I care about Wyoming more. Back to the assistants, I have 3 that I really like and I hope that they stay, 1 that I am on the fence about and 4 that I hope go with Christensen. People are welcome to disagree, but I am just throwing out the names:

Hope they stay: Jamar Cain, Jason Gesser and Renaldo Hill. I feel all of these guys are truly gifted coaches and with the right HC can really help out the football program with their recruiting and player development.

On the fence: Pete Kaligis. He has done some really good things with the OL, but there have also been some problems. I have liked his recruiting as I believe he brought Olive here and I would hate to see him leave.

Good luck on a different staff: Jim Harding, Robin Ross, Nick Danielson and Derek Sage. The WR's have been a huge disappointment this year under Sage. I thought that we had a really good WR group this year but they never developed and became a huge liability as they couldn't get open against decent defenses and made it incredibly difficult on Brett to throw the ball. Special teams was also a disappointment, as funky things were tried and nothing ever developed and we gave up so many big plays on runbacks over the years it wasn't funny....for the last 5 years, special teams were anything but special.

I am not scared about what the future will bring as some are. Some of the things that Christensen has done has greatly improved the football program but they did not translate to improved performance on the field. Some of the areas that I feel Christensen and his staff fell down on was recruiting and player development. I do feel that we were fed a big bag of cow droppings about the improved recruiting year after year by Christensen and his staff. While I feel there were some gems in the classes, overall, the staff failed to recruit a top notch breakaway WR. We had a lot of guys who had nice hands and ran good routes but failed to have the quickness and speed to keep defenses honest. I also feel that the staff failed to recruit a take charge defensive lineman or a real threat at RB. We have some nice LB's and DE's and an outstanding QB and decent offensive linemen, and acouple of decent DB's but there was no real depth and player development and after 5 years a good coach will have these things in place and not make excuses about a lack of depth.

Are you stupid? Hill? He has been a "coach" for exactly 3 games. He was a grad assistant of the secondary. If you fire the HC, then fire all the sons-a-bitches and start from scratch. This is a stupid as thinking Greg Brandon would be a good HC.
 
I want Jason Gesser to stay and Hill.
Gesser knows QBs and runs a Pacific NW QB camp. Plus he has a great relationship with Thompson that goes back many years.
 
BeaverPoke said:
I want Jason Gesser to stay and Hill.
Gesser knows QBs and runs a Pacific NW QB camp. Plus he has a great relationship with Thompson that goes back many years.
+1
 
Kaligis and Gesser are important if we want to keep recruiting the PNW.. hard telling what the new staff will want to do for recruiting.
 
PCB said:
Kind of a moot point isn't it? The next HC will decide.

A lot of the stuff we talk about on here is "moot". Many new HC's keep a coach or two typically from the old staff for continuity and recruiting reasons. I don't care how low a guy has been actually a full time assistant, I want to see guys that connect and are able to teach and recruit. The three guys I mentioned I feel all meet this criteria and will be a big asset on any staff that they work on.
 
PotatoCreekPete said:
I am not one who thinks that all of the assistants should be shown the door along with Christensen. Christensen is gone and I wish him the best, but I care about Wyoming more. Back to the assistants, I have 3 that I really like and I hope that they stay, 1 that I am on the fence about and 4 that I hope go with Christensen. People are welcome to disagree, but I am just throwing out the names:

Hope they stay: Jamar Cain, Jason Gesser and Renaldo Hill. I feel all of these guys are truly gifted coaches and with the right HC can really help out the football program with their recruiting and player development.

On the fence: Pete Kaligis. He has done some really good things with the OL, but there have also been some problems. I have liked his recruiting as I believe he brought Olive here and I would hate to see him leave.

Good luck on a different staff: Jim Harding, Robin Ross, Nick Danielson and Derek Sage. The WR's have been a huge disappointment this year under Sage. I thought that we had a really good WR group this year but they never developed and became a huge liability as they couldn't get open against decent defenses and made it incredibly difficult on Brett to throw the ball. Special teams was also a disappointment, as funky things were tried and nothing ever developed and we gave up so many big plays on runbacks over the years it wasn't funny....for the last 5 years, special teams were anything but special.

I am not scared about what the future will bring as some are. Some of the things that Christensen has done has greatly improved the football program but they did not translate to improved performance on the field. Some of the areas that I feel Christensen and his staff fell down on was recruiting and player development. I do feel that we were fed a big bag of cow droppings about the improved recruiting year after year by Christensen and his staff. While I feel there were some gems in the classes, overall, the staff failed to recruit a top notch breakaway WR. We had a lot of guys who had nice hands and ran good routes but failed to have the quickness and speed to keep defenses honest. I also feel that the staff failed to recruit a take charge defensive lineman or a real threat at RB. We have some nice LB's and DE's and an outstanding QB and decent offensive linemen, and acouple of decent DB's but there was no real depth and player development and after 5 years a good coach will have these things in place and not make excuses about a lack of depth.


Ok so i guess you're saying Yarbrough is not a take charge D lineman and Wick Iis not a threat at running back? But othewise every other position Iincluding the offensive line is just dandy? :rofl:
 
mwc fan said:
PotatoCreekPete said:
I am not one who thinks that all of the assistants should be shown the door along with Christensen. Christensen is gone and I wish him the best, but I care about Wyoming more. Back to the assistants, I have 3 that I really like and I hope that they stay, 1 that I am on the fence about and 4 that I hope go with Christensen. People are welcome to disagree, but I am just throwing out the names:

Hope they stay: Jamar Cain, Jason Gesser and Renaldo Hill. I feel all of these guys are truly gifted coaches and with the right HC can really help out the football program with their recruiting and player development.

On the fence: Pete Kaligis. He has done some really good things with the OL, but there have also been some problems. I have liked his recruiting as I believe he brought Olive here and I would hate to see him leave.

Good luck on a different staff: Jim Harding, Robin Ross, Nick Danielson and Derek Sage. The WR's have been a huge disappointment this year under Sage. I thought that we had a really good WR group this year but they never developed and became a huge liability as they couldn't get open against decent defenses and made it incredibly difficult on Brett to throw the ball. Special teams was also a disappointment, as funky things were tried and nothing ever developed and we gave up so many big plays on runbacks over the years it wasn't funny....for the last 5 years, special teams were anything but special.

I am not scared about what the future will bring as some are. Some of the things that Christensen has done has greatly improved the football program but they did not translate to improved performance on the field. Some of the areas that I feel Christensen and his staff fell down on was recruiting and player development. I do feel that we were fed a big bag of cow droppings about the improved recruiting year after year by Christensen and his staff. While I feel there were some gems in the classes, overall, the staff failed to recruit a top notch breakaway WR. We had a lot of guys who had nice hands and ran good routes but failed to have the quickness and speed to keep defenses honest. I also feel that the staff failed to recruit a take charge defensive lineman or a real threat at RB. We have some nice LB's and DE's and an outstanding QB and decent offensive linemen, and acouple of decent DB's but there was no real depth and player development and after 5 years a good coach will have these things in place and not make excuses about a lack of depth.


Ok so i guess you're saying Yarbrough is not a take charge D lineman and Wick Iis not a threat at running back? But othewise every other position Iincluding the offensive line is just dandy? :rofl:

I said that we have some nice DE's, and Yarbrough is a DE not a DT. In reality Wyoming only played one real DT and that was Olive in a back-up role, both Bernthaler and Mertens are converted DE's. While I like Wick, he is not a break away threat, he is a tough you know what and got his yards the hard way, but he isn't the type of back that is going to win games by breaking big plays, he gets his yards the hard way. Frankly speaking CSU had two better backs than we did this year.
 
Well,, Mertens at 6'5 295lbs is a good sized DT, though I think he may be bigger than that (+300lbs), and to his credit, he did do a good job forcing o-linemen to double team him.

Wick is not a speed back, but he does a good job of getting yards and pushing the pile, no doubt.
 
I think the SJSU game showed that if you mess up and miss a tackle, Wick can be VERY explosive.

You better tackle Wick on the first hit or he is going to rack up some yards.
Makes you wonder what would have happened if every other carry wasn't right into a huge pile of linemen.
 
In our offense the receivers are the speed threat, we need a guy like Wick that will fight his tail off for three or four yards. We had a speed guy in Alvester and he never put up the numbers that Wick did. The knock on AA was he danced around too much. He could break one but couldn't get the tough yards. With our line most yards are tough yards anyways.
 
BeaverPoke said:
I think the SJSU game showed that if you mess up and miss a tackle, Wick can be VERY explosive.

You better tackle Wick on the first hit or he is going to rack up some yards.
Makes you wonder what would have happened if every other carry wasn't right into a huge pile of linemen.

Way to fail to mention how many yards Wick had in the final game at Utah St......40 total yards, that is all that Wick had. The game against San Jose St. was not the norm, that was way over his average. I am not trying to take anything away from Wick as he is a tough kid, a really tough kid who runs hard, but he isn't an explosive back....while you need backs like him you also need explosive backs to keep defenses honest.

Even though Mertens is a big guy, he is best suited as DE and he played tough all season, just out of position because the coaches couldn't develop players fast enough.

The biggest problem is that we do not have explosive receivers that can get separation, period!
 
PotatoCreekPete said:
BeaverPoke said:
I think the SJSU game showed that if you mess up and miss a tackle, Wick can be VERY explosive.

You better tackle Wick on the first hit or he is going to rack up some yards.
Makes you wonder what would have happened if every other carry wasn't right into a huge pile of linemen.

Way to fail to mention how many yards Wick had in the final game at Utah St......40 total yards, that is all that Wick had. The game against San Jose St. was not the norm, that was way over his average. I am not trying to take anything away from Wick as he is a tough kid, a really tough kid who runs hard, but he isn't an explosive back....while you need backs like him you also need explosive backs to keep defenses honest.

Even though Mertens is a big guy, he is best suited as DE and he played tough all season, just out of position because the coaches couldn't develop players fast enough.

The biggest problem is that we do not have explosive receivers that can get separation, period!
No back is "explosive" if there's no gaps for them to explode through. There's no such thing as a great back who didn't have a great line in front of them.
 
Wyovanian said:
No back is "explosive" if there's no gaps for them to explode through. There's no such thing as a great back who didn't have a great line in front of them.

Not trying to argue with you at all, you're absolutely right...but Barry Sanders might be one exception to that rule. Detroit's line sucked pretty bad.
 
BackHarlowRoad said:
Wyovanian said:
No back is "explosive" if there's no gaps for them to explode through. There's no such thing as a great back who didn't have a great line in front of them.

Not trying to argue with you at all, you're absolutely right...but Barry Sanders might be one exception to that rule. Detroit's line sucked pretty bad.
Sanders compensated a lot for weak line play, but in his final two seasons, he had a pretty good line in front of him. He never had a capable QB to set up and balance the run game though. All the twisting and juking pretty much abbreviated his career.
 

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